The Deception Within

[tripvanParticipant 193]

The Animal Jam Deception
I am sure you know who I am talking about here.

For all these years AJ has not changed much of his overall tactic. He used to always spew the line ‘The Answer to 1984 is 1776’, well let’s take a look at the archives of the Bill Cooper radio show. http://www.hourofthetime.com/wordpresstest/milton-william-bill-cooper-mp3-collection/part-5-episodes-1400-through-1926-complete-bill-cooper-mp3-collection/

Now Cooper has been misled over the years too, but is supremely useful for this example. Between episode 1775 and 1777, Cooper brings up the issue of AJ using -fear- by lying about imminent war with Russia. Sound familiar? It is the same tactic that was employed with the radio serial war of the worlds and made a small subsection of Americans truly afraid about the changeover to the year 2000. So what happened when nothing happened? Well, to put it bluntly, nothing.

The Truth, mostly
AJ gets away with what he does in the alternative news scene by posting the truth. What his organization does is repost truthful statements that the majority of mainstream and alternative news sources have already claimed. This builds a sense of authority in the community, especially amongst the newer members who have only recently had their eyes opened.

Once the hook is in, you start listening to him every day. What does this do to the average person? Well besides forcing them to listen to his advertising every day about vitamins and supplemental iodine, hormone increasing products, water purification, guns and ammo, and tangy t~~~-erine, he also puts them into a bubble of influence. Within this bubble, he is the oracle. Whenever something happens in the world, your task is to find out what he thinks about it. He is the oracle, and as there is only one truth, he is seen as the only one capable of dispensing it to the masses. Again, this is because perhaps 80% or 90% of what he says is truthful and are things you do not hear in such a concentrated dose from mainstream media, even though it is already published and out there.

The danger is primarily this = when their lies are hidden amongst the truth, no one questions the validity of wrong information and it just forms a pile “maybe it is true” or “maybe it isn’t”. Then they implant an EMOTIONAL DRIVER that solidifies the absorbed content. They do not do very much research themselves, they grab miles and miles of articles that are similar and join them together. Seditiously, after the EMOTIONAL DRIVER is unleashed, the hook is reeled in. The ideal audience will be captured, and invited to spend all their time listening to AJ videos, reading his website and buying his products.

How his journalists work
I waited for years for an original article to come out from this group. What I have realized, after a very long time, is that they are not journalists. They do not go out and research topics or do investigation pieces. Their primary job is to build a propaganda matrix from cherry picking alarmist news articles, then spin them from the AJ perspective. “We told you this was going to happen, and now all the chips are falling into place”. Yes, it is really that simple, take a reading of any of his articles and this is the one and only spin you will find.

Left and Right paradigm are the same. Republicans and Democrats are the same. Trump is king.

He used to portray the kind of take no sides political history, but now he supports Trump. There are many theories out there as to why he has taken this stand, but he has ultimately gone from All Politicians are Like That, to Not All Politicians are Like That. Respect level = 0%. This reeks of hidden manipulation.

Well they have been able to bring the mens rights movement and MGTOW into the spotlight multiple times, they’re on our team!

Video Example 1: The Sexodus Video

COPIED CONTENT:
Social engineering project known as third wave feminism
What is to blame:
Hysterical propaganda re: rape culture
Mandatory consent classes
Deadening of naturally rambunctious behavior through ADHD drugs such as ritalin
Discrepancy between what women say they want and what they actually want
Divorce process set up to grossly favor women over men
Women are less monogamous then men

Are western men at risk at turning into japanese herbivores?
Is it strange that men are turning to infamous pickup artists like Julien Blanc
Traditionally male characteristics and traits are being ridiculed by third wave feminism and contemporary culture
Men have been brainwashed into white knight behavior

Saying that the article was received very positively by the male community
Starts quoting comments from after the article

EMOTIONAL DRIVER

EPILOGUE

Video Example 1: Deconstruction

Aim: To bring in and retain MRA and MGTOW into sphere of AJ

Recipe: 1. Copy and summarize ideas from publicly available document in a monotone voice to initiate a passive mindstate in the listener
2. When cooked, layer emotional driver over cake,
3. refer viewers to AJ and Infodrawers, or IW.

Video length: 426 seconds.
Copied content: 318 seconds.
Emotional driver and epilogue: 108 seconds.
Percentage of video that is dedicated to emotional driver and epilogue, and is the only source of original content: Just under 25%

COPIED CONTENT: Initially he does not allude to the fact that he is copying from an article, but this becomes apparent at the one minute mark. It becomes clear that this summary of arguments in original text in a steady stream of bombardment to numb the rational mind to be susceptible to the emotional driver.

EMOTIONAL DRIVER: It is very clear that he has chosen a train analogy in this case to allude to a specific emotional condition. Words are used such as “Stoke heated debate”, “Dragged kicking and screaming”, “Out into the open where we can all pick apart bones”, “Train wreck of radical feminism”, “at every turn”, “establishment media is driving a wedge between men and women”, “derailing the cohesiveness of western society”,

1. This train is on a certain course and there is no stopping it
2. Other trains in history that were heading towards impending doom, his reference to picking apart bones is a very clear indication of what he is alluding to here.

Video Example 2: Why men are giving up on marriage

COPIED CONTENT:
Waiting to later in life to get married, if at all.
Catholic Pastor revealing amount of marriages per year he performs is down from 20 years ago
Research study that half of adults in US are married, record low
1960, percentage of married has decreased from 70% down to 51%
Why are men shying away from marriage, and relationships in general?
Apparently the pastor suggests that radical feminism is DRIVING A WEDGE between men and women.
Quotes from Pastor re: stupid males in media
Shows AT&T ad. Reads from comment section of this video.

HALF TRUTHS/LIES

COPIED CONTENT:
Video about kids belonging to whole communities. Ron Paul video depicting the government as wanting to dumb down people, over the many centuries, by threats and intimidation, and now also with bribing.
Article quote re: schools being dominated by feminist ideology
Article stating there is no such thing as boy girl anymore

HALF TRUTHS/LIES

COPIED CONTENT:
Article quote: feminism directs suspicious anger towards men.
Divorce court, chilling effect on marriage. New article, 3 point primer in modern female privilege.

HALF TRUTHS/LIES

EMOTIONAL DRIVER: CUE HITLER VIDEO

HALF TRUTHS/LIES

CUE THE SEXODUS VIDEO

Epilogue

CUE INFODRAWERS ADs.

Video Example 2: Deconstruction

Aims: To place the blame of gynocracy onto Rockerfellas and the Government. To bring in and retain MRA and MGTOW into sphere of AJ

Recipe: 2. Stir and simmer copied content at low heat, while slowly pouring in half truths and lies along the way to camouflage the lies from the viewer.
3. When thoroughly mixed and approaching a boil, drop in the emotional driver
3. Epilogue with Brave New World and indirectly refer viewers to AJ and IW.

Video length: 400 seconds.
Copied content: 226 seconds
Half Truths and Emotional driver and Epilogue: 174 seconds
Percentage of video that is dedicated to emotional driver and epilogue: About 44%.

COPIED CONTENT: Arguments grabbed from published sources, videos, etc. In this example though, we spot moments within the video where he does not cite anything and this is where he plants the half-truths.

HALF TRUTHS: Presenter claims that this manipulation is proof that this has directly resulted in declining marriages and that this is by design.

Political elite, particular Rockerfellas, highjacking feminist movement to subjugate men and make women more dependent on government and break up nuclear family model.

People generally hold more loyalty to their families then they do to the government, and as the government expands at the expense of individual liberties, politicians need to compensate for this by scheming the public into submission. But how do they do that? By encouraging the public to feel a deeper connection to politicians, such as obama for example, than they do to their own families.
(Phrases this as an emotional connection manipulation issue, as opposed to hypergamy or a welfare allegiance issue -Ed)

Best way for government to accomplish this is (apparently -Ed) through feminism. Which also allows government to reflect blame for oppressing women because feminists will simply blame the men instead. And because feminism gets women working in the workplace faster, and also gets children into public schools at an earlier age, where they can begin being indoctrinated to big government talking points

Is it really surprising that boys are not growing up into MEN. (implication, men should be playing the game -Ed)

Non feminist women who complain they can not find men who are comfortable in their masculinity. Feminism can be blamed for this because men shy away from masculinity as they might be labeled a rapist. Yes means yes sexual consent laws.

With establishment supporting and bankrolling feminism to fuel hostility between men and women, and public schools telling young boys that masculinity is bad and there is no such thing as genders any more, is it really that surprising that fewer men are getting married.

EMOTIONAL DRIVER: Hitler! With a generic video of him giving a speech coupled with an admittedly oft-misattributed quote.

But what is the danger? They are just trying to get the information out there!

You and I know it, the information is out there already. Their group makes videos that hide lies within a matrix of seemingly self-researched truths. They take the conservative stance, that men and women should get married and form long lasting pair bonds, but The Feminsim, The Government and The “Bad Guys” have purposefully broken the system for us. They are a cotton candy trap that tries to monopolize your time and money, inadvertently stifling their audience’s real world participation in real world issues. Keep MGTOW strong, say no to purposefully manipulative content. Peace.

[tripvanParticipant 193]

Trump is reviled by establishment republicans. Liking trump is hardly “playing in into the false dichotomy”. I grant though that he may be a complete facade.

Well, remember when AJ supported Ron Paul. Paul ended up getting being taken out of the race altogether. There are large sections of people who support Trump, but he is currently being used to drive a huge divide between left right politics. If he falls, you might be enduring a female president.

What real world issues are aware people being pulled away from?

Climate change? Gun control? Consumption tax idiocy?

Those “Real world issues” also take people away from the real things. Things like enjoying your own life, family, going your own way.

Eg. With one big climate change global movement, people are less likely to help around their cities and neighborhoods picking up trash and petitioning against toxic environmental issues at a local level. You can just sit around at home and watch tv and pretend all the work is being done and you have no control, works the same whichever side you’re on.

[UntamedParticipant]

There’s a pool of fools out there who’ll try to use MGTOW for their own nefarious ends and Alex Jones isn’t the first and won’t be the last to make fantastic claims over the simple matter that Men have learned to say “NO” to women.
The day people will start thinking out of the Left/Right/Independent box is the day Humanity will have accomplished something great besides Chinese food and the International Space Station.
Our overlords have a huge panoply of tricks to get us fighting among ourselves and the majority of people are playing right in their cards without even knowing it, even feeling proud of their drone-like decision to support so and so for office.
Politics isn’t about what made it great anymore, it’s a bottomless pit of treachery, corruption, tax evasion and showmanship on all sides, the simple reflection of what our society has become so it’s no surprise to see the puppets singing for their favorite puppet masters and if the words don’t ring true it doesn’t matter as long as they’re dancing on the music.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I hear what you’re saying, tripvan, but what is your agenda for throwing this out here? Are you going to try to tell me you just woke up one day and decided to compile all this info together and throw it out here to see what happens? Just because you had nothing better to do? Hmmm

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[tripvanParticipant 193]

Russky wrote:

I hear what you’re saying, tripvan, but what is your agenda for throwing this out here? Are you going to try to tell me you just woke up one day and decided to compile all this info together and throw it out here to see what happens? Just because you had nothing better to do? Hmmm

This exactly. No agenda, but mainly because I am isolated from people who can talk about these kinds of issues with. I rarely have the inspiration to write long posts, but today I felt a real need to get this off my chest. I come here to vent my mind, and in this case I thought it would be good to offer a deconstruction of something that I had been thinking about for a while to see if anyone else thinks something is odd with his press agency too.

And this is primarily because during my youth I was pretty entrenched with watching and absorbing as much of this guy’s content as possible, taking it in hook line and sinker. What I came to understand was that whilst he brought a lot to the table, there was a lack of depth to what he had to say and I have to say that there is a lot that I have now had to make my own mind up about. If I kept listening to his shows day after day after day I would have remained exactly that, brainwashed and eating out of their hands. I felt that there are some brothers here who might need some support on this same matter, because I sure as hell didn’t have anyone who I could talk to about this stuff when I was younger. And since the content is mainly fear-based, it is easy to get caught in an addictive cycle with it.

While I did learn was that there was a lot of information out there that MSM was not upfront about, there was always something fishy about this guy and I guess I am trying to put my finger on it.

[tripvanParticipant 193]

Why don’t you address a conspiracy theory directly, tripvan, instead of focusing on one man.

What do you think he’s not ON THE LEVEL about?

Ok sure, for instance, let’s take communism for an example.
The word has seen the end of it, apparently, yet there is still support for it as an ideology and framework for control than ever before. AJ used to be against Russia and Putin for this very reason, that even though the USSR was dismantled that a lot of the old framework was still in power. Today I see a report on there that looks like it was cooked up by Novosti press agency. Here it is: http://www.infowars.com/president-vladimir-putin-personally-thanks-jesse-ventura-during-moscow-visit/

Come on, we all know how they treat foreign journalists and politicians, have you guys not seen the Yuri Bezmenov videos? We virtually have the same structure as the USA Today articles here. Personality goes to Russia, finds life is very good for these people, meets with President, except this time their President loves the new strong american businessman presidential candidate. And he doesn’t say why…

And I don’t know if IW still does, but there was a time when they were regularly posting articles from an organization called Russia Today, which is essentially the English online wing of Novosti press agency. This comes straight from the RT wiki:

RT is a brand of “TV-Novosti”, an “autonomous non-profit organization”, founded by the Russian news agency RIA Novosti on April 6, 2005.[1][7] During the economic crisis in December 2008, the Russian Government headed by Vladimir Putin included ANO “TV-Novosti” in the list of core organisations of strategic importance of Russia.[8][9][10]

RT has been called a propaganda outlet for the Russian government[11][12][13] and its foreign policy[11][12][14][15] by news reporters,[16] including former RT reporters.[17][18][19] It has also been accused of spreading disinformation.[20][21][22][23] The United Kingdom media regulator Ofcom has threatened RT with sanctions because of repeated violations of its rules on impartiality.[24] The network states that it offers a Russian perspective on global events.[25]

What happened to talk about getting Russia to control it’s expansionism? He has flip flopped ever since Russia decided to stand up to ISIS.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Look, Alex is not perfect, but he’s much better than anyone else on radio/TV. Period
He has his flaws and sometimes talks nonsense. But who said he has to be perfect?
Just because he isn’t perfect does not discredit what he says and what he does.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 29]

Why don’t you address a conspiracy theory directly, tripvan, instead of focusing on one man.

One man or a hundred, makes no difference.
Conspiracy theories are dime a dozen, most certainly when it comes to continental or global events.

Peddled like cheap trinkets at a flea market in order to influence the uneducated, gullible and weak minded people who are afraid of their own shadows. How many loony tune’s theories have we had since the end of 19th century ? Dozens.

I have been a part time prepper for nearly three decades, but approaching 2ky I saw seemingly reasonably minded people s~~~ting themselves and preparing for the end of the world. F~~~ing idiots.

But this is what conspiracy theories do. It makes them f~~~ing stupid.

[Anonymous 29]

DRS_au wrote:

Survivor wrote:

Why don’t you address a conspiracy theory directly, tripvan, instead of focusing on one man.

One man or a hundred, makes no difference.
Conspiracy theories are dime a dozen, most certainly when it comes to continental or global events.

Peddled like cheap trinkets at a flea market in order to influence the uneducated, gullible and weak minded people who are afraid of their own shadows. How many loony tune’s theories have we had since the end of 19th century ? Dozens.

I have been a part time prepper for nearly three decades, but approaching 2ky I saw seemingly reasonably minded people s~~~ting themselves and preparing for the end of the world. F~~~ing idiots.

But this is what conspiracy theories do. It makes them f~~~ing stupid.

But all you;re doing is criticizing one man, with generalities. That’s called an adhominem attack, generally considered not sound argumentation.

The UN Is real. The CFR is real. The federal Reserve is real. The royal academent of international affairs is real. The world Bank is real, The bank of internationalist settlements is real. The Jesuits are real. The club of rome is real. The bilderberg meetings are real. Noble families are real. Multinational corporation are real… on and on . The g8, g20 are real The un’s suggested climate treaties are real. These are facts, not theories.

You chose y2k as your only concrete criticism. That was a major concern for corporations, not a theory. Prepping is still probably a good idea , but not because of y2k, but because of the impending collapse of our fictititious economy..

And most conspiracy facts are generally along the same lines: how society is controlled , and are usually generally in agreement. It’;s not like a million wacky random ideas.

Why do you insist on keepig your head in your bottom?

I’m not attacking the man, I’m against the general idea of conspiracy theories, period.
As for my head in my bottom ? . . . . makes no difference where it is as it has kept me alive and prosperous and
relatively unscathed from all the female bulls~~~ most of u went through. Yes, I saw through them in my early years because I used my head.

[Anonymous 29]

DRS_au wrote:

Survivor wrote:

Why don’t you address a conspiracy theory directly, tripvan, instead of focusing on one man.

One man or a hundred, makes no difference.
Conspiracy theories are dime a dozen, most certainly when it comes to continental or global events.

Peddled like cheap trinkets at a flea market in order to influence the uneducated, gullible and weak minded people who are afraid of their own shadows. How many loony tune’s theories have we had since the end of 19th century ? Dozens.

I have been a part time prepper for nearly three decades, but approaching 2ky I saw seemingly reasonably minded people s~~~ting themselves and preparing for the end of the world. F~~~ing idiots.

But this is what conspiracy theories do. It makes them f~~~ing stupid.

But all you;re doing is criticizing one man, with generalities. That’s called an adhominem attack, generally considered not sound argumentation.

The UN Is real. The CFR is real. The federal Reserve is real. The royal academent of international affairs is real. The world Bank is real, The bank of internationalist settlements is real. The Jesuits are real. The club of rome is real. The bilderberg meetings are real. Noble families are real. Multinational corporation are real… on and on . The g8, g20 are real The un’s suggested climate treaties are real. These are facts, not theories.

You chose y2k as your only concrete criticism. That was a major concern for corporations, not a theory. Prepping is still probably a good idea , but not because of y2k, but because of the impending collapse of our fictititious economy..

And most conspiracy facts are generally along the same lines: how society is controlled , and are usually generally in agreement. It’;s not like a million wacky random ideas.

Why do you insist on keepig your head in your bottom?

Generalities or not, I’m not attacking the man but the general idea of conspiracy theories.
2ky was a perfect and easy example of how a rational concern was being used as a conspiracy about the worlds end.

As for my head in my bottom, I don’t give a s~~~ where its at. It has served me well enough to become prosperous, enjoy life and
avoid the general bulls~~~ and pain dished out by females. . . . . Yeah, I used my head, the one in my bottom.

On another note, while the topic has merit and I quoted what tripvan wrote, does it mean I have to agree with
everything he has written ?No. . . . . did I say he was stupid ? . . . no. . . . . but masses of humanity can be stupid, uninformed, misinformed or plain uneducated.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

The problem is that all “conspiracy theories” and “conspiracy theorists” are piled in one heap and generalized.
so on one hand we have intellectuals with deep knowledge in history who see through false flag operations, order-out-of-chaos and problem-reaction-solution bulls~~~, and on the other hand – we have a bunch of gullible rednecks with no education who believe in Nibiru, crop circles, UFOs, underground world and s~~~ like that. You can’t discredit the first simply because society piles them with the last.
The whole term conspiracy theory is the child of JFK assassination fallout – when anyone questioning the official story was downgraded into a bumbling idiot who believes in lizard people and alien abduction. And it worked like a charm for awhile. But now people start to realize that those two are not the same people

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 29]

Russky wrote:

The problem is that all “conspiracy theories” and “conspiracy theorists” are piled in one heap and generalized.
so on one hand we have intellectuals with deep knowledge in history who see through false flag operations, order-out-of-chaos and problem-reaction-solution bulls~~~, and on the other hand – we have a bunch of gullible rednecks with no education who believe in Nibiru, crop circles, UFOs, underground world and s~~~ like that. You can’t discredit the first simply because society piles them with the last.
The whole term conspiracy theory is the child of JFK assassination fallout – when anyone questioning the official story was downgraded into a bumbling idiot who believes in lizard people and alien abduction. And it worked like a charm for awhile. But now people start to realize that those two are not the same people

My major issue is that there is so much information available that’s almost impossible to separate fact from fiction. truth from lies.
Since the advent of internet media, we have been bombarded relentlessly with so much bad and false journalism that it is stupid to take everything at face value,
Even if you dig deeper to find what is fact or not, it is extremely hard unless you have had good solid training in various types of
analysis to get to the bottom of the issue.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

growing up in Soviet Union you learn to question the narrative.
the problem most people in western countries have – is that they think that government means no harm, so there is no reason to lie about anything.
Researching WW2 is how I got in conspiracies. I realized that every nation’s story had a spin on it, and that the truth is far from the narrative.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 29]

Russky wrote:

growing up in Soviet Union you learn to question the narrative.

I know exactly what you mean.
I was born in a communist run state with one of my parents a party member.
I was a f~~~ing state hostage because my other parent owned a small business and was not a party member.
Rarely do I rely on media for truth. I go and look for it myself if I can.

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