The "Dear Girls who wanted a nice guy" letter revisited.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Unless I’m wrong this particular letter has made its way here before.
Well, if not, HERE WE GO!!

Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore

The reason I bring it up now is because I had a very nice conversation with some charming lady from Australia. Here it is.

Warning: Wall of text inbound.

Except woman get attacked and killed for turning down men all the time. I’ve had guys turn into crazy monsters after I’d turned them down, including having guys try to run me over with their trucks, getting slapped, chased, stalled, etc.

Just because some men can handle rejection doesn’t mean all men can. I now will lie to get out of men hitting on me if it means I can safely get away from them without escalating the situation by flat our rejecting them. Most women learn that pretty early on.

……………..So you would willingly risk your life in a place where such things as this happen? For what reason?

If I knew that I’d risk being stalked, assaulted, or killed just because some chick was having a bad day, I wouldn’t go to that place. As many a guy has come to realize,”It ain’t worth it.” If the risks outweigh the rewards, don’t go. I’m just sayin.

I was stalked by a 23 year old man when I was riding the bus back to my house from highschool. Do I stop going to highschool? Should my parents have quit their jobs to escort me everywhere?

I got kicked by another man who I ignored while walking down the street with a friend. Should I stop walking the 5 minutes from my bus stop to home? I mean, I was doing a working holiday and not exactly swimming in money while backpacking around Australia. Should I have just stayed at home?

One time a guy took a liking to me while I was working in a mall. He wouldn’t leave me alone for hours despite trying to explain to him I had a bf and I wasn’t interested. I called my bf in tears to come escort me home and only then did he leave me alone.

Like, where do you think these guys are harrassing women? by luring them into dark alleys with candy? Seriously?

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First off, that’s called random assaults. Doesn’t sound like they would’ve cared if you liked them or not. I’m sure they have cops for that. Also, These sound like scenarios that did happen, but they aren’t daily occurrences. Your earlier post sounds like if you reject some guy you run a 50/50 chance of getting beat up. If that is true, then get away from that area!! If you’re getting attacked everytime you walk outside, that is a serious problem and whoever is in charge of public safety needs to know about it.

Where do I think these guys are harassing women? LOL. These days, Everything is harassment! Saying “hello” to a cashier will probably come with a mandatory sentence if she feels threatened. If I found that out, I’d stop going to that store.

………………And if you’re a grown woman who gets lured into dark alleys by the promise of candy, I’m afraid I have some bad news for you.

How you interpret my post isn’t up to me so I don’t care how you perceive me to be.

That being said, I’ve dated a lot of men, some who asked me out and some who I asked out, husband included. Not “everything” is harrassment. No one is saying that. We just know if a girl says “no thank you”, you don’t need to write an article about how you deserve to date us.

My interpretation? It looks pretty clear to me. You said that women get attacked for turning down men all the time, but you’ve also said that you’ve dated a lot of men, including one that you have now married. I’m going to ask you once more: Do you think, or did you think the risk of being attacked worth the reward, in this case finding a man that you eventually married?

Now personally, I’ve been out there a lot of times. I’ve asked many a woman to dates, just to hang out, etc. And I’ve been turned down nearly all of those times. While it did hurt on the inside, I have never once sought to hurt anyone of those women in return. In my own observations, the guy who does fly off the handle is the rare one, not the norm. I’m sure that all of us guys know that losing our cool on some girl in the bar isn’t going to increase our chances of getting anything other than arrested. I don’t know where you hang out at, but if these guys are unable to control themselves any better than that………..
1: call the cops.
2: If that area is a hangout for these kinds of people, STOP GOING TO
THAT AREA!!

You’re a grown woman. Take some sort of responsibility for yourself.

lol, if a dog bites you, do you keep petting it? What if multiple dogs bite you over 10 years? Anytime you try and tell someone, they say it’s your fault for petting dogs. But then everyone gets mad at you for not petting a stranger’s dog. Sure, puppies are harmless and their bites are small so we can visualise the potential risk of petting him. Let’s say you have a family friend’s dog you’ve known and spent some time with prior to the biting incidents. You’re less likely to be afraid or hesitant. Same with a dog who is friendly to other strangers and if your friends can give positive feedback.

So now you’re somewhat comfortable in superviser settings with dogs and know how to act around dogs. All of a sudden, a strange dog (ie, a strange man, in case you didn’t get the analogy) approaches you. You don’t know this dog and you have no friends around or maybe they’ve pooped into a shop and left you alone for a moment, whatever. This dog is following you and won’t go away despite being neither friendly not aggressive, just persistent and imvestigating. You don’t know their intentions, whether it will be a friendly encounter, whether running will make you prey, will taking a ball throw get the dog fooled enough for you to leave? I mean, you gave strange dogs the benefit of the doubt last time and you ended up with stitches and the dog ran off. No repercussions for the dog but only for you.

What do you do?

HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You went the dog route? Okay. Let’s go.

If a dog bites you and you keep petting it, you’re encouraging that behavior, Simple as that. If you’re letting these dogs continue to bite you, you’re the problem. First you tell them to stop. Then you MAKE them stop.

“Everyone is mad at you for not petting a stranger’s dog”? LMFAO!! SCREW THEM!!! Why the hell would you keep associating with these assholes who obviously don’t care about you or your pain?

“So now you’re somewhat comfortable in supervisor settings with dogs and know how to act around dogs.”

Jeez. you just spelled out the basics of the PUA or Pick Up Artist’s “Game”. You learn how to act around these,”Dogs” so that you can get what you want from them……………………………

…………….OR YOU CAN DO LIKE THE GUY IN THE OP AND SAY NO!! NOBODY IS MAKING YOU GO AND DEAL WITH THESE CREATURES OTHER THAN YOU!!! YOU DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH THESE PEOPLE OR ANYONE ELSE!!!

If some guy keeps following you around, there are laws against that kind of thing. Call a cop or something.

As far as “giving strange dogs the benefit of the doubt”, Welcome to the dating scene. You are intentionally meeting with strangers in a public setting. If you don’t want to talk to people, then DON’T. There are most likely plenty more people around so it isn’t that big of a deal.

“No repercussions for the dog but only for you”. Welcome to what every guy has to deal with now a days thanks to everything being labeled sexual harassment. Here in America, the whole #MeToo thing has gone rampant where even a bad date in the case of one Aziz Ansari is enough to be accused of rape. Incidents from as far back as 30 years ago or even longer are now being brought up and used to destroy men’s careers if not their entire lives. What happens if and when these accusers are proven to be false? Nothing

Over here, an ever growing number of men have realized that we are alone. The courts don’t care, the media doesn’t care, and society doesn’t care. So, what did we do? We stopped caring.

We don’t care what you want.

You want a “Good man”? We don’t care.
“You think I’d be a good father?” We don’t care.
“You want to settle down?” We don’t care.
“You’re not like the other girls?” We don’t care.

And if you think that this is only happening on the dating scene……………

I’M AFRAID I’VE GOT SOME BAD NEWS!

Men around the planet are starting to say,”No” to everything involving women. Not only men not marrying, they are not dating, not picking them up in taxis, not helping women in the workplace, hell, not even hiring women as much as before if at all, lots of guys aren’t even TALKING to or LOOKING at women if they can avoid it. Men are putting up barriers now. We have what is called the Mike Pence Rule where men won’t even meet with a female client or co-worker without a chaperone. Why? Because much like that biting dog you keep talking about, we will not trust you. No. you will not bite me, not even if I’m forced to deal with you. Women are already complaining about it, but we’re not listening. When nobody else would help, we men found our OWN solution. You don’t like our solution? I’ll tell you one last time: We don’t care.

Oh, you’re one of those “nice guys”.

Yeah, please remain single. I’m suresingle females all over the world are all breathing a sigh of relief you’re no longer in the dating pool.

Also, my husband is a genuinely nice guy and he’s never had to tell anyone that. Weird how that works…almost like you can’t demand women perceive you as a nice guy when you’re really just a jaded asshole.

Cheers! 😘

lol. And now you try to shame me with some label. I’m just surprised you didn’t use the time honored classic of,”You’re just a virgin who can’t get laid.” I must at least give you credit for that.

Your husband? He might be a “nice guy” now, but odds say that in the next 5 to 7 years, he’ll be divorced. The court system being what it is he’ll get milked like a dairy cow and God help him if there are kids involved. By the time the courts are through with him, he’ll be scum of the earth who deserves all the bad things that are happening to him. What happens after that? Well, it won’t be so nice. Alimony, child support, living out of cheap apartments if he’s lucky, or on the street if he isn’t. Of course he can always stay in a nice comfortable jail cell for missing alimony payments. Maybe he can simply put an end to it all as so many men have done. The possibilities are endless for a “Nice Guy”.

If nothing else, your advice to stay single is advice I intend to take. It’s pretty obvious that I’m not the kind of guy that women want. Besides, It doesn’t matter how “Nice” a guy is if nobody is looking for that.

“Jaded asshole”? That just sounds wrong. I hope there is an effective medical procedure for that. Me? I’m just gonna avoid the situation altogether.

Just adding some final nails to your “nice guy” coffin? lmao

That’s…………………A pretty good one. As this article and the one before it have pretty much spelled out, The “Nice guy” is indeed dead. Cause of death: nobody wanted him. Hey folks. I think she’s finally getting it!! If I’ve helped in at least some way then I’m glad I stopped by this post. It should be closing in on Friday over there so you have a good weekend. Me? I’ve had it good for a while now so the day of the week doesn’t matter. Still, I might go out and celebrate in your honor. “To Zombombaby. One more who has seen the light!!” If any of your friends are having trouble understanding why guys are saying no these days, just direct them over here. I’ll be happy to get them sorted out as well.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

Good article. I hadn’t read it before.

Your comments are much easier to read on the comments page of the article and well done for sticking it to that moronic, deluded slag.

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Haha, you just made her husband have a very bad day. She is going to take out all of that anger that she could not take out on you, all on him. She sounds like a disaster in any scenario. I would have enjoyed meddling with her, but I think you did it perfectly.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

You can’t logic a hamster.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

Too much of the story is missing anyway. How were you dressed when these guys were “hitting” on you. Women signal availability by the presentation they make. If a woman ever tells you this isn’t true, ask her what the term “f~~~ me” shoes refers to.

For those guys that “won’t” leave you alone. Any flirting, prick teasing, eyes across the room, come talk to me signal. I’ve seen women at these shops in the mall carry on with these random guys……..chatting it up because, well, they were bored.

Ever thought about the impression this leaves with the guy. Perhaps he thought you were interested because you led him to think that. Then when it got boring or old, or your BF was coming to pick you up, he was harassing you.

A random guy on the street just walked right out and kicked you then??? That’s really odd. I’m sure that hasn’t ever happened to me. or anyone I know. Some random guy, for no reason, just comes out and kicks me. I’d look for cameras because that has to be one of those prank shows. I simply know of no one this has ever happened to. And here’s the thing. No one can ever verify your claim that men do this to you. You just say that’s this happened.

So, the idea is……..you think this is harassment because you are a female and he wanted to f~~~ you. So, his approach was to kick you??

If it happened to me that wouldn’t be my first thought. My first thought is this is some f~~~ing kook, probably on drugs. I wouldn’t assume it was because I’m male and he wants me. How arrogant.

As far as women getting killed all the time for turning a guy down when he asks her for a date. Sorry, that’s just not true. Does it ever happen, sure, it has. But its very rare. And the guy was mentally deranged. I don’t think mentally deranged people are useful for making comparisons to a general population.

Women never perceive that anyone else has feelings. They feel its ok to excite and flirt and prick tease guys and then the next minute, having worked the poor fool in to a state, just shut it off cold and the guy has to automatically dial it down. I’ve heard girls laughing about that very thing. Or get him interested because it’ll make the other guy you like jealous. Or maybe he’ll spring for a date and you don’t want to sit at home Friday night.

You may be a bitch but that doesn’t mean men are your puppy dogs and you can toy with us. When you play with fire sometimes you get burned.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Wasted typing on a waste of a human being, but entertaining the whole way.

She followed the program so predictably that you would think she was a maintenance bot.

Too bad even she doesn’t realize that she’s just the cherry to her “nice guy” husband.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Fantastic movie. Now I want to watch it.

[narwhalParticipant]

Her entire argument is irrelevant. Fear of recourse from rejection doesn’t explain why a woman would date the hypothetical bad boy over the hypothetical nice guy in her 20s, then switch in her 30s. Really, if women really feared the reaction of men after she rejects him, then you would expect her to favor the nice guy who looks tame over the guy who clearly doesn’t look reliable.

IMO, arguing her point only served to give that point relevance, which it never should have had. She was able to get your attention and get you engaged in an argument that was completely irrelevant. Even though you don’t agree, clearly she’s convinced you’re just an asshole, and isn’t concerned with women’ behavior in the slightest. Just drama, nothing accomplished.

FYI, I think it’s important to note that said article was a direct to response to a female author who claimed she was ready for the nice guy now. Any woman who claims she isn’t that woman, or agrees with that woman, really has no business disagreeing with the response. The context matters.

Ok. Then do it.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

narwhal wrote:

FYI, I think it’s important to note that said article was a direct to response to a female author who claimed she was ready for the nice guy now. Any woman who claims she isn’t that woman, or agrees with that woman, really has no business disagreeing with the response. The context matters.

Women in general aren’t that great with context.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 12]

It all comes down to women avoiding responsibility for their own actions. As a 6ft foot all well built man I still wouldn’t just go into a rough club or walk down a dark alley way, cut through a park at night etc

I also wouldn’t go chasing after crazy lady and then cry “Help me” when she starts going nuts on me. I just wouldn’t put myself in that position to begin with. It’s like when I still used dating sites, I would never put my pic up. And yet I would see all these women putting their pics up, sometimes with clues as to who they might be, where they live. You just have to wonder.

Women don’t seem to understand these things. And it isn’t “victim blaming” it is being cautious.

[SkelatorParticipant 1261]

Wymins know when men are attracted to them. They use it and abuse it. I don’t feel sorry for any of them who claim “nice guy” turned out to be “creepy guy”. They lead men on, it’s in their nature. The thrill of feeling attractive for them is everything. I would say in some strange way they love the fact they can drive men wild and cause them to be irrational. They love it but at the same time this can also be used to exonerate them from any accountability, if something unwanted were to happen.

They absolutely know when a man has more intention than just being friends. Even from a young age. Why continue a relationship with someone when they know this and they aren’t attracted to them? Because they love the attention and the manipulation. It’s like a drug to them. Women love power and control but they do it in a very passive aggressive way. Then if it all goes south they can just deny all accountability and call him a “creep” and write some blog about how the friend zone isn’t real. Nice guy’s expecting sex are creep’s. It’s a social injustice you know.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Women over dramatizing it.

Is this really about lack of being desire which is why they assume every guy is stalking them.

Women NEED to feel desired, which is why they tell these stories, with the most commom being stalked. Never known anybody that stalked a girl, or know anybody that knows about who has. You can tell by the way, their characteristics and what they say.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

IRuleMe wrote:

You can’t logic a hamster.

Nope, but you can have fun with it.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Yeah her husband is a “nice guy” that’s why he deserves the left over of all the chads that plowed her around for years…

Soo lucky… pass.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Deadly Raver wrote:

I was stalked by a 23 year old man when I was riding the bus back to my house from highschool.

The only difference between “stalking” and “romantic” is whether or not she wants to f~~~ him. It has nothing to do with him.

But I think there’s more to this than that, see below.

I got kicked by another man who I ignored while walking down the street with a friend.

Or she tripped over his foot because pumpkin can’t be bothered to watch where she’s walking while trying to be coquettish.

One time a guy took a liking to me while I was working in a mall.

Maybe he was wanting help with some purchase.

He wouldn’t leave me alone for hours

Ya. Right. “Hours”.

despite trying to explain to him I had a bf

Because taking personal action is too difficult. She can’t just outright state her position in a direct and honest manner. Pumpkin has to dump it all on her “boyfriend”.

And again, the only difference between “creepy” and “romantic” is whether or not she wants to f~~~ him.

So here we have all these men who are soooooo interested in this one woman that they just can’t help themselves but are compelled to engage in antisocial behavior in their overwhelming desire for her because she is so lovely and appealing like goddamn Helen of Troy.

I can’t be the only man here thinking “delusional narcissism”.

If that many men are acting out against her, it’s because she’s a c~~~, not a catch. Bitches don’t get smacked for saying, “no.” Bitches get smacked for being bitches. And she strikes me as a first class, first world bitch who puts up all sorts of capricious rules and regulations for approaching her oh so precious golden pussy. Which goes some way to explaining why the men who approach her might have a slightly higher asshole quotient than the norm: because assholes don’t give a f~~~ about her rules and regulations.

The Wall will not be kind to this woman.

But that is not our problem.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

LOL. She’s still at it!!! Now I’m going to see how many days in a row will she keep it up. See ya next month folks!!

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[TwistParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

delusional narcissism

Exactly. With a side of BPD that she is saving for the right guy.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Twist wrote:

sidecar wrote:

delusional narcissism

Exactly. With a side of BPD that she is saving for the right guy.

She claims to be married, which I suspect is bs. she’s married and responds to my ramblings on an average of every three to four hours. I’m betting her cat hates me for taking all mommy’s attention. So far I’ve gotten her out to about four days of evidence as to why guys like the one who wrote that initial article were right to avoid women like her. I might even tell her that just to see what comes falling off the hamster wheel next.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

She kind of reminds me of a histrionic. (I admit I find most women histrionic)

From Psychology Today:

“Histrionic personality disorder is characterized by constant attention-seeking, emotional overreaction, and suggestibility.”

This lady doesn’t deserve a nice guy. She deserves the wall.

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