The curse of knowledge

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Is there a point when you’ve stripped away enough of the facade from the real world that the only outcome is that you are filled with an everlasting disgust?

I’m not talking about depression, I’m talking about seeing the guts after the skin has been peeled off and the illusion of beauty is shattered.

Is knowledge a curse if all it does is suck the optimism out of you completely? Is all that exists at the end of the road perpetual boredom and loathing?

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Knowledge is a burden, brother.

When you see the things for their true value, beauty and s~~~ start to fade, in almost everything.

Here, among the last men and among the last male space, you will find a little beauty, in actions, words and character.

But, in the world, pretty much nothing is beauty anymore.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[RoyDalParticipant]

The apple in the Garden of Eden was from the Tree of Knowledge, and it bestowed “knowledge of good and evil.” There was a fuss over it for a good reason. It was the first and original red pill.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Wandering MGHOWParticipant 551]

ABSOLUTELY! Excellent topic. People always tell me I’m the most cynical and depressing person they’ve ever met. I can see why they would say that, but to be honest those people aren’t exactly intelligent people (mostly women, go figure). They don’t really know s~~~ about the world or life in general when it comes down to it. They are just typical unobservant sheep that are blind to facts/logic. I believe that people who have excellent memories and excellent observational skills tend to be the most depressed. They are the ones that not only see all the bulls~~~, but retain it for years to come. I sometimes wonder if its worth going forward in such a hopeless s~~~ty world. EVERYTHING is boring to me.

[AngularParticipant 114]

Wandering MGHOW wrote:

ABSOLUTELY! Excellent topic. People always tell me I’m the most cynical and depressing person they’ve ever met. I can see why they would say that, but to be honest those people aren’t exactly intelligent people (mostly women, go figure). They don’t really know s~~~ about the world or life in general when it comes down to it. They are just typical unobservant sheep that are blind to facts/logic. I believe that people who have excellent memories and excellent observational skills tend to be the most depressed. They are the ones that not only see all the bulls~~~, but retain it for years to come. I sometimes wonder if its worth going forward in such a hopeless s~~~ty world. EVERYTHING is boring to me.

Let them go into the work camps, This world is hell is how I see this place, because we were raised to speak the truth and be ourself, but at the same time the minute you do that you attacked for not-conforming and treated like a public threat. everything society told for it to be true you must turn it 180degrees and that is much closer to the truth.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

Is knowledge a curse if all it does is suck the optimism out of you completely?

To each their own, in regards to their perception and objectively considering & pondering such in depth questions. I, for one, am thankful & consider it a blessing to have some knowledge at the ready, to avoid pitfalls & landmines I used to get ensnared in.

I used to think ignorance was bliss. Hell, I even lived by it like some kind of mantra for myself, longer than I care to admit or recall. Having the knowledge to be aware of a trap is not a curse to me, it is a blessing.

Realizing that there never was a carrot on the stick to begin with, does suck, but, I can at least have optimism in not springing the trap & becoming entangled in it again. When I look back at all the years of my life, that I spent being married, that’s when I felt like I was cursed & pessimistic.

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

Is all that exists at the end of the road perpetual boredom and loathing?

This is an excellent snap shot of my 16 years of being married twice. I know I am changing the context of how you expressed your words…but only with the intention of sharing my take in regards to myself. I did spend many years desperately wanting love & romance. It was only after I decided to be realistic about this, that I was finally able to accept it for what it is, (or isn’t) so that I could finally move on to bigger & better dreams.

In short, I was cursed by a lack of knowledge, and am now blessed with having more understanding now, than I have ever had in my life. This is the most exciting my life has ever been, and although my illusions of love have been shattered, I can and do, still take comfort in knowing this…

My life is & has been by far, much better than I ever imagined or dreamed, since my awakening.

[Anonymous 42]

Knowledge is only a curse when you deny it.
Anyone with knowledge of another’s wrong doings becomes a danger and a threat to those whom are doing wrong. Americha is, and has been doing wrong by its own definition, and by every example of history. Knowing where this leads (destruction) we can prepare ourselves with this “knowledge” and escape it’s consequences…
Knowledge is what drives MGTOW.
Ignorance drives feminism!

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

It is said that ignorance is bliss, and it is true. After acquiring knowledge that cannot be unlearned, I am still p~~~ed. That said, forewarned is forearmed. Nothing is worse than being blind to reality. The price is that you’ll stay perpetually p~~~ed off at the state of things.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[RennieParticipant]

Phantom wrote:

In short, I was cursed by a lack of knowledge, and am now blessed with having more understanding now, than I have ever had in my life. This is the most exciting my life has ever been, and although my illusions of love have been shattered, I can and do, still take comfort in knowing this…
My life is & has been by far, much better than I ever imagined or dreamed, since my awakening.

I can say that my life has also improved dramatically since I escaped the dungeon. I’m much better off than I was before.

We’re like…on our way. *smokes a cigar, grins and lays back in his deck chair*

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Rennie wrote:

I can say that my life has also improved dramatically since I escaped the dungeon. I’m much better off than I was before.

We’re like…on our way. *smokes a cigar, grins and lays back in his deck chair*

Exactly. 🙂

[MemberParticipant 323]

Another guy beat me to it…..ignorance is bliss. I never knew how true that was until I got older. So many things I wish I could “unsee”. I have told more than one person that there are a lot of things in this world you don’t want to see or know and that if given the choice avoid them at all costs.

On the plus side my memory is fading from years of stress or possibly a mini stroke so bad feelings don’t hang with me as long anymore. Age kind of takes the edge off the sharpness of the mind and makes it quite dull.

[Anonymous 0]

Dammit! You beat me to it!

[Anonymous 7]

Yes and no.

I’m a metaphysicist by nature, and as such I’m forever peering beyond the veil.
What do others think of this? Who f~~~ing cares.
Red pill, abandonment of social mores and behaviors, all the same by degrees. And with all of it, once you see clearly there is disgust at many things.
For me it was time. Time wasted because I was for so long the man society expected. Husband, good worker, etc.

Isn’t that what happens when you come face to face with truth? Lethargy, despair, hopelessness.
All is meaningless. We have always been lied to. The difference is now we know it for what it is.

My soul was rotten. It wasn’t being fed. So I learned how to feed it.

When you truly hunger for it, there’s always truth, and by degree there’s always more truth to learn.
Always one step more to go.

So knowledge… truth…
It’s like an addiction that you cannot ever OD from nor will ever be satisfied from.
As far as you can go down the rabbit hole, the farther it’s created to meet you.
“Deep calls to deep”.
Regardless of how the search for truth pushes one’s self, It’s not so bad a journey to be honest.
Better than lies… much better than lies.

If all you see is ugliness still then you haven’t completely shed your skin as there’s much, much more to see past despair once you make that leap to know more, to know deeper things.
Just like a real snake, the eyes get cloudy right before the skin is shed and the snake has difficulty seeing clearly until the process is complete.

I saw that someone has said that the Apple of Eden was the first red pill.
I thought that was rather good.
And if the Apple was the first red pill, then our job is to become the serpent.

[LupusParticipant 214]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

Is there a point when you’ve stripped away enough of the facade from the real world that the only outcome is that you are filled with an everlasting disgust?
I’m not talking about depression, I’m talking about seeing the guts after the skin has been peeled off and the illusion of beauty is shattered.
Is knowledge a curse if all it does is suck the optimism out of you completely? Is all that exists at the end of the road perpetual boredom and loathing?

I think it is a necessary step we have to go through. With this knowledge you enter a phase of this feeling. As you continue to explore more knowledge and go do things that interest you and help you grow, you should escape the negative part and see the few nicer looking parts of reality.

[NioZenParticipant 856]

MGTOW is just one more stop on my journey toward reality and away from ‘things other people want you to believe are true’. I’ve opened my eyes to a lot, such as crony corporatism, the myth of political choice, the severity of the Fukushima disaster, ingrained narcissism, huge global debt, debt slavery and debt surfdom, the growing police state, the illegal wars, CIA/MI5 funded boogeymen such as ISIS, false flags, manipulation of consent, manipulation of consumer attitudes…. it never ends.

At times I found all of this deeply disturbing and depressing. The thing that keeps me going, however, is that it is the truth of things. If I want to be as empowered as possible, to make the best decisions I can in my own self interest, that means removing my consent from many supposed ‘norms’ and dissolving my inherited beliefs. But I would rather know the truth than not.

As I get older, I care less. I used to think ‘omg I have to do something!’, but really, no one gives a s~~~ – they are much happier to be led around by the nose than to spend time thinking or challenging their own ideas. It is what it is, you can’t change it, you can only act accordingly. I’ve started to feel real peace, space to find out who I am without someone telling me who I should be. Oh, and I’ve been forced to conclude that the human race is insane. Really, actually, insane.

We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Knowledge allows use to recognize both the beauty and ugliness of the reality around us.

A personal example is I recently I learned about the chemical, copulins. I found this knowledge very disturbing because I will never look at human relationships the same way again.

The ugly is that copulins is a chemical produced by women that both causes men to become enslaved/whipped towards women, and also copulins enslave women to female group think/hive mind.

The beauty is that I realize that with this information, I can take precautions in dealing with women. And I can warn others about the effect of copulins.

Also, I realize that nobody likes being a slave. And if men and women were forced to face these truths, some may reject their current situation.

Breaking ones invisible chains and being free is the whole point of taking the red pill.

Maybe someday someone will invent a chemicals that will remove the influence that copulins have on people. As more information about this chemical is learned, that is always hope that such an breakthrough might happen.

In addition, Knowledge allows us to take a high path towards spiritual enrichment by learning more. I realize that we are all mortal, and as such we will die. Due to this many of these problems are transitory. And all one has to do is learn patience and self-control to deal with many of the problems we deal with every day.

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