The "Crisis" of Masculinity

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  • #2905
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    Braininavat
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    We’ve all heard that we are today experiencing a “crisis” of masculinity — that the very thing that men are, i.e., male nature (in contradistinction to female nature) is very possibly inconsistent with civilization as we know it today, so that men need to find some non-traditional way to express their masculinity if not rid themselves of it entirely: the end of men.

    Even the men who defend men in the public sphere do so in a tepid way, as in this article…

    http://theconversation.com/theres-no-crisis-in-masculinity-only-a-narrow-definition-of-men-21777

    …in which the author (who has done much to bring attention to male suicide rates) admits only a “grain of truth” in the Camille Paglia quote that, “The way gender is being taught in the universities — in a very anti-male way, it’s all about neutralisation of maleness.” Camille Paglia, like Karen Straughan, is able to say things that contemporary culture does not allow men to speak — except on pain of social penalties.

    To pronounce a crisis of masculinity is to attempt to shift the responsibility of the marginalization of men to men themselves, and to do so in a social milieu in which men cannot speak their minds without serious consequences — loss of reputation, career, and income. The lack of a social safety net for men means that a single social misstep can result in being effaced from society and becoming irremediably invisible — homeless, penniless, and without any hope of influence in the public sphere.

    The crisis is not in our masculinity, but in our civilization.

    The civilization that men created and sustained through thousands of years has been hijacked by ideological elements who are openly hostile to men, to male nature, and to men’s interests. Unfortunately, this includes many men who have become captive to an ideology that has marginalized their very being.

    The civilization built by men carries within itself the deep imprint of the male imagination; of course women feel alienated the deeper they penetrate into the ideas and institutions of that civilization. But, crucially, women in the past had no alternative to offer, and women today have no alternative to offer. They criticize men and the civilization built by men, but their activism is purely destructive and nihilistic: they are content to destroy what men have built, but they have nothing to offer in its place.

    The “crisis” of masculinity will be over when men reclaim the civilization that they built.

    #3086
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    VileNord
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    As a cognizant and brilliant brain in a jar, I’m sure you are all too familiar with the wonders of today’s technological miracles. All humans strive for tranquility and comfort in their lives. A little brouhaha now and again is needed to maintain excitement, but the overall (over?)reach of man’s technological grasp has been to fulfill this main goal. Safety, security, and stability. The “crisis of masculinity” we face may be in its infancy, but I believe that it is here. Men have built a civilization that benefits us tremendously in purely evolutionary regards, but by birthing such technological marvels we have marginalized our strengths as brute force laborers by exporting the unsavory work to mechanical men. We have sullied our reputation as protectors of the weak by enabling them to rise above their congenital status. We have given rise to a multitude of fields that require no physical fortitude and allowed women to flourish as career oriented pseudo-males.

    I’m in no way promoting a social shift away from technology, I’m lazier than the next guy even! It’s just relevant to the discussion to point out that short of catastrophic implosion, there is no turning back in regards to the ease of life we have created for ourselves in western society. IF technology and government can provide all the resources for a women that she once could only reap from union with a man, then the face of masculinity will lose it’s potency and we will encounter social blow back from women……….Oh wait.

    How exactly are we supposed to “reclaim” our image as Übermensch in the presence of the technological provider beast that we have fathered?

    Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

    #3134
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    Keymaster
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    This “crisis of masculinity” they yammer on about implies that they WANT , admire and respect masculinity, masculine qualities, values, virtues etc – and see value in them. But it’s CRAP. Because the moment a man displays these things, the first thing the want to do is suppress and take them away from him. This is like saying “where are all the good men”…. then when he shows up, she marries him and robs him blind.

    They work their butts off to strip men of “masculinity”, then accuse men of not being “masculine” enough – while claiming there is a crisis. NEVER let a woman anywhere NEAR your “masculinity”. The first thing she wants is for you to be more like a woman. The “mid life crisis” women accuse men of is a direct parallel to this, when the “crisis” is her own. He’s realizing his masculinity and coming into is own, and instead of admiring it, she she shames him for it.

    I am done – done – with this bulls~~~. And we all know I am not alone.

    • Proud of your very real accomplishments? You’re an ego monster.
    • Dedicated and hard working? Your now obsessed with work.
    • Instead of saying he’s smart…. they say “he demeans my intelligence”.
    • You’re protective? No no. “you’re an oppressive, sexist misogynist pig who wants to control women”.

    The bottom line: They are so toxic they will take even the most positive masculine qualities – and spin them into a negative. This can be studied and understood by psychologists and anyone with an iota of common sense. “Hijacking” is exactly what it is. And they are not even equipped to fly or drive themselves.

    If any of you have had any experience dealing with HR managers (female cancer sores on the professional world) you will see this all the time. Walk in and put your BEST foot forward, show them what you got, show them what you’ve done, dress to the nines, polish your boots to perfection. and then she will ask “so what are your weaknesses??”. They are SICK. Mentally SICK.

    MY RESPONSE:

    I’m not hear to talk about my “weaknesses”. I am here to present you with my STRENGTHS so that you can make an important decision when trying to find the RIGHT and most qualified person for a job. If you wanted me to submit a list of weaknesses, I would have handed you a list of them on a blank page, because the workplace is no place for weakness.”

    Then she doesn’t even see the value in what the f~~~ I just said. Reacted as if I had some kind of defiant attitude, even though I said it all with a confident smile. The truth is, the answer embarrassed her. It made her look STUPID. It was the BEST answer she could have gotten… delivered in the BEST possible way, and she refused to see it, even when it was sitting right across from her. If I were the CEO interviewing a person who gave that answer, I would have told that person “You’re hired. How much do you want?”.

    “Crisis of masculinity” my ass.

    Now 18 months later, I got an email from her! The same stupid bitch. “Are you available?” Yes, really. They hired the wrong person and are now asking me to fill out their forms and send them all my s~~~ again. I flat out told them, “I already gave you 101 reasons to want to hire me, now you will have to give me one reason why I would want to work for you”. Bet myself $20 I will not be hearing from her again.

    Only a woman is stupid enough to want to “run the show” and then wonder why there is a “crisis of masculinity”. Now they f~~~ed themselves , and all she will get …. is an unqualified supplicant who will tell her whatever she wants to hear, as they talk about their weaknesses in an interview. Or, in other words, a woman.

    “Women are outnumbering men in the workforce”.. “there’s a crisis of masculinity!”. LOL what a joke.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #3193
    VileNord
    VileNord
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    “there’s a crisis of masculinity!”. LOL what a joke.

    The crisis exists. It is manifest in the supplication of the common man to the will of the female. It is sickening and depressing. It is noxious and embarrassing. One stroll through the Saturday market here in Portland will have you gasping for air from the deluge of hipster liberalism and gender neutrality propaganda. The adolescent male of today is besieged with rhetoric and vitriol and they give in because it is the path of least resistance.

    The “crisis” continues to be initiated, perpetuated, and institutionalized by the natural born caregivers of the young. They have exploited their birthright by utilizing their positions to uplift young women and tear down young men. The drive, the desire for them to do this is as old as mankind. It is only through the immense improvement in the quality of life, brought about by the technological advances of the 20th century, that they have found themselves willing to show their true colors.

    For every man intelligent enough to embrace the MGTOW philosophy, there are 1 million who aren’t.
    For every man b~~~~y enough to embrace the MGTOW philosophy, there are 5 million who aren’t.
    For every man who has heard of the MGTOW philosophy, there are 10 million who haven’t.

    I DO strongly believe in the efficacy and power of the MGTOW ideal, but in order for me to admit its necessity, I must also admit why it is necessary.

    Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

    #3215
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    No denying the crisis exists. However, the critics don’t get to be the people who cultivated it. As an example, I checked the search terms today and it seems one of our top 20 popular searches are women who type in “how to change my husband”. That’s what Im talking about.

    How. To. Change. My. Husband.

    One of them entered “how to stop his bachelor ways”.

    His bachelor ways were good enough to marry, so why wait until after the wedding to “change” him. Change him into what, exactly? To be more like a woman. That’s what. Then , if she succeeds she will resent him with a mile-long list of endless diatribes for becoming exactly what she worked her butt off to change him into. These people are simply not permitted to discuss the “crisis of masculinity”.

    A woman marries hoping he will change. And he doesn’t.
    A man marries hoping she will not change. And she does.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #3265
    VileNord
    VileNord
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    Agreed! I think I was reading your post from a skewed perspective. I might of been a little non-sober!

    Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

    #3266
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Hey, if you’re entertained and enjoying a drink at the same time, that’s a big compliment to us. Knock yourself out! And enjoy. I don’t drink (barely), but during my first visits to the Manosphere I was hooked up to an IV of fine Russian vodka. Red Pills go down easier that way. I told myself:

    Vodka is made from potatoes.
    Potatoes are vegatables.
    Vegetables are good for you.
    You’re welcome.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #3335
    VileNord
    VileNord
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    Lol I wish chemistry worked that way!

    Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

    #3684
    Wandering MGTOW
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    Agreed! I think I was reading your post from a skewed perspective. I might of been a little non-sober!

    Red wine is good for you. It’s a scientific fact!

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