The Conservative Woman

[Insensitive BastardParticipant 21]

The website, in the last several weeks has been pushing traditionalist propaganda, and it’s men’s fault (particularly MGTOWs and Sexodus) that they can’t find men to marry and impregnate them.  A call for men to work for women so they can engage in their gynocentrism.

 

My response:

[Anon AnoningtonParticipant 62]

It’s ironic that they play the “somebody think of the children” card. I align with MGTOW precisely because I care about children’s quality of life. Note that I said quality and not quantity. It is selfish for traditionalists to want every or nearly every woman to get married. Any so-called conservative who wants that is actually hurting children of the future. What they need to recognize is how many unfit potential mothers there are out there. It is hell to be raised in a broken home.

MGTOW is beneficial to children’s quality of life because it raises competition among women. Say 25% of women are actually fit to be mothers. Naturally, they would be the most desirable, starkly contrasting the toxicity of the bad women. In this case, if all women got married and had children equally, 75% of children would be raised in negative environments. But when 50% of men go their own way, roughly 50% of children are raised in negative environments, and if 75% of men went MGTOW, nearly every child would be born to a good mother (assuming a bit of randomness). If X% of women are good, it does not hurt children for men to go MGTOW until more than about 1-X% of them do and leave good women alone.*

That is never going to happen! As promising as the google trends graphs are, there’s never going to be as many MGTOWs as there are bad women. Too many guys care about pussy and social status. And as the saying goes, a good woman is worth her weight in gold. As soon as there is a surplus of good women not getting spoiled by attention from many men each, bluepill men will react to this and jump at the opportunities.

If you are a tradcon, think this through and realize that MGTOW is beneficial to children. If you pair bad women with men, you only create suffering for everyone. Believe in NAWALTS all you want. It’s ok to disagree with us and believe that 20, 30, 40% of women are ok. But don’t encourage the unfit women to bear children to dysfunctional homes.

*this math leaves out single motherhood which is its own abomination that we are not accountable for

If you really care about quality of life for children you need to focus on four things:

ending all government assistance for single mothers

encouraging fit parents to marry younger

encouraging fit parents to have many children (4-8) to make up for the losses from letting unfit adults not reproduce

fixing the economy so that marrying young and having many kids is fiscally responsible

[Insensitive BastardParticipant 21]

Anon Anonington wrote:

ending all government assistance for single mothers

 

This alone I feel like would end gynocentrism and feminism in courts once and for all.  There would be next to no motive to Divorce and every motive to stay married.

[Anonymous 12]

Many women have noticed that the whole “Have it all” and “Equality” caper is a lot of hard work and that does not suit them one little bit. Hence why they are turning against Feminism or saying they are so they can go back to being stay at home mothers and whatever else there is to avoid doing all the work.

They have also realized that waiting to have kids until you are 50 just doesn’t work and that also men don’t tend to want women past age 30.

The thing is the damage has been done. Men have woken up and also embraced the benefits of Feminism such as not having to give a f~~~ about women and their well being. Also many other women are supplying men with the sex they want without the burden of marriage or kids. So I don’t think the Traditionalist women are going to do too well with this but as per usual it will be fun to sit back and watch the two camps of women fight with each other.

[Insensitive BastardParticipant 21]

Anonymous wrote:

Many women have noticed that the whole “Have it all” and “Equality” caper is a lot of hard work and that does not suit them one little bit. Hence why they are turning against Feminism or saying they are so they can go back to being stay at home mothers and whatever else there is to avoid doing all the work. They have also realized that waiting to have kids until you are 50 just doesn’t work and that also men don’t tend to want women past age 30. The thing is the damage has been done. Men have woken up and also embraced the benefits of Feminism such as not having to give a f~~~ about women and their well being. Also many other women are supplying men with the sex they want without the burden of marriage or kids. So I don’t think the Traditionalist women are going to do too well with this but as per usual it will be fun to sit back and watch the two camps of women fight with each other.

 

I think this is the crucial argument traditionalists miss.  The genie is out of the bottle and you’re not getting it back in.  Feminist women will not realize the damage they’ve done to themselves until their womb is rotted and worthless from STDs from riding the c~~~ carousel.  Traditionalist Women will lose on both fronts.  They will not entice men back into the gynocentric marriage model nor will they convince Feminist Women the dangers of their own self-destructive behavior.  It’s lose-lose.

MGTOW and Sexodus men will sit back with a cold beer and just watch the chaos ensue.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Not a bad post, Anon, but I disagree. You are assuming that women have to compete to be able to reproduce. They don’t. There is no restriction on reproduction. People are f~~~ing and women are spitting out children, whether they can pay for them or not. That is what is happening – and that is what will continue to happen until the system restricts reproductive rights.

Also,
Ending all government assistance for single mothers – not going to happen. Ending assistance is ending their freedom to reproduce.
Encouraging fit parents to marry younger – not going to happen. The system has given women a loaded gun to divorce and pillage the man at will.
Encouraging fit parents to have lots of kids – not going to happen. The man will be up to his eyeb~~~~ in child support after he is subsequently divorced.
Fixing the economy so that having many kids is fiscally responsible – not going to happen. This is not the Neolithic Age. More People = More Farms = More Food = More People no longer applies. Technology and robotics are replacing the need for human labor.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Just because women are “against feminism” does not mean they are for men.

Conservative traditionalist women are just as gynocentric and selfish as the feminists they claim to oppose.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I’ve noticed that most “anti-feminist” women all say “I’m supportive of first wave feminism but not of second or third wave.”

Here’s the problem with that: If anything, first wave feminism opened the gates for the gynocentric society we have.

I know that’s an incredibly unpopular opinion, but think about it.  Men used to be the leaders of the family.  The woman would take care of the household and her husband, and the man would bring the money home or defend his country (he was obligated to in many cases).  The man had the right to vote, but women wanted that ability as well.

…But they didn’t want the obligation to go to war, because that would make women disposable as well.

To me, women screaming for “equality”, even from the get-go, never wanted it in the first place.  Now we’ve had women voting (who are proven to vote more liberally, AKA more emotionally than logically), women being “sexually free” and men be seen as predators, women given the right to beat on a man and disabling a man the ability to defend himself (I even saw a post on Tumblr earlier about “so you want to hit a woman back because of ‘equality?’ You’re a horrible person for that and I’ll gladly replace your apple juice with my pee”), and women still accepting traditionalist values.

I’d personally be okay with being head of the house, but I know that no woman would ever let a man do that as much as she says she wants it.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Insensitive Bastard wrote:

They will not entice men back into the gynocentric marriage model

And they’re not helping themselves by trying the absolute WORST way to get men back into the fold: Blaming and shaming men and demanding they solve a problem women brought down upon themselves. Good luck with that.

♀: Women can’t get husbands. What are you men going to do about that?
♂: Ride motorcycles. Go hunting and fishing. Climb a mountain or two. Drink cold beer on the beach.
♀: But that won’t help women get husbands!
♂: What’s your point?

Gynocentric based demands will not work on men who are done with gynocentrism.

[Insensitive BastardParticipant 21]

sidecar wrote:

Insensitive Bastard wrote:

They will not entice men back into the gynocentric marriage model

And they’re not helping themselves by trying the absolute WORST way to get men back into the fold: Blaming and shaming men and demanding they solve a problem women brought down upon themselves. Good luck with that. ♀: Women can’t get husbands. What are you men going to do about that? ♂: Ride motorcycles. Go hunting and fishing. Climb a mountain or two. Drink cold beer on the beach. ♀: But that won’t help women get husbands! ♂: What’s your point? Gynocentric based demands will not work on men who are done with gynocentrism.

 

Exactly.  ♀ made their mess, why should I get off my ass to help them wipe theirs?  For virtue of having a vagina? Pfft.  Clean your own damned mess.

[Anonymous 12]

sidecar wrote:

Insensitive Bastard wrote:

They will not entice men back into the gynocentric marriage model

And they’re not helping themselves by trying the absolute WORST way to get men back into the fold: Blaming and shaming men and demanding they solve a problem women brought down upon themselves. Good luck with that. ♀: Women can’t get husbands. What are you men going to do about that? ♂: Ride motorcycles. Go hunting and fishing. Climb a mountain or two. Drink cold beer on the beach. ♀: But that won’t help women get husbands! ♂: What’s your point? Gynocentric based demands will not work on men who are done with gynocentrism.

 

All women subscribe to the “It’s men’s fault” way of thinking. Men are either too sensitive and kind, too macho, too hairy, not hairy enough, not enough money, obsessed with their money etc etc, women want it all, and they want it yesterday and by the time they get what they asked for they no longer want it and men again are expected to adjust to this new idea of what women want in a man.

The every changing rules of not just Feminism (On either end of the political spectrum) but Left wing politics in general is just insane and unless you happen to fall into one of the categories that benefits from the insanity than the best thing you can do is walk away and laugh.

 

 

[Insensitive BastardParticipant 21]

sidecar wrote:

Insensitive Bastard wrote:

They will not entice men back into the gynocentric marriage model

And they’re not helping themselves by trying the absolute WORST way to get men back into the fold: Blaming and shaming men and demanding they solve a problem women brought down upon themselves. Good luck with that. ♀: Women can’t get husbands. What are you men going to do about that? ♂: Ride motorcycles. Go hunting and fishing. Climb a mountain or two. Drink cold beer on the beach. ♀: But that won’t help women get husbands! ♂: What’s your point? Gynocentric based demands will not work on men who are done with gynocentrism.

 

I made an image macro off that but I did forget the beach part.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I won’t change I’m afraid. The simple truth is VOTES and politicians that are corrupt (most of them).

Once over 50% of the votes comes from one gender ….. then the other gender is f~~~ed.

Fairness, justice and equality has never come from politicians …. it has always been forced on them …… civil rights anyone? …. name one politician that kicked that ball off? …… it was the people dummy.

Now when ‘the people’ (over 50%) push for slavery of the -50% ….. then the people have spoken.

The only way of getting at least balance back is for the minority to withdraw.

The ace they have is that the minority do the majority of work.

Withdrawing is the ONLY option and the ONLY right thing to do.

Yes we are mgtow but the side effect of that will be a crumbling of this system … but … more importantly … a future for our unborn brothers.

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