The concept of "alpha" and "beta" is gynocentric virus.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Who gave birth to this idea is unclear.
I’d guess it’s either women, or PUAs ,which is still indirectly women, because it has to please them in order validate the PUAs.

It goes as follows:
“Men are either alpha or beta, no exceptions,
alphas are strong and successful and skilled, they have confidence
betas are weak unsuccessful and unskilled, they lack confidence.”

It is critical one of these categories is always bestowed on a man, so that we understand how his interaction with the world works:
“See that guy failed, it’s because he’s a beta.”

If this was true, why don’t people predict what will happen going by these classifications?
It’s always stated AFTER the competition between “the alpha”and the “beta is over”.

(ignore the ratarded headline, “mean bully got owned”, who named this a 14 year old or something?)

“See the guy with the tattoos was a beta and lost.Betas loose right?What did you expect?”

Why is this “beta” so confident and so… fitting of the whole image of an alpha?I’d say he was even a bit arrogant.
And why is the “alpha” so shy?Or should i say, humble?

And why didn’t anyone try to tell who’s the “alpha” and who’s the “beta” before the fight?

What if the tattooed guy trained more and beat the other guy?Would he be the “alpha” now?
Would the other guy become a “beta” after losing?Or are they both alphas now is that it?

If a “beta” just so happens and wins a 100 times in a row, cause he got damn good at something is he an “alpha” now?

I’ll tell you something what makes men succeed is not this notion of “alpha/beta”, it’s skill and hard work.
Anyone can become good at something and “turn into an alpha” if he wants to.Not only that ,it’s a f~~~ing common sight.
I’ve lost the count on the guys i know that “turned into alphas”.

So if this transition between the two categories is so common why do these categories exist in the first place?

Here we must return to the origin.
Who came up with this idea?Women, or people trying to please them, so still indirectly women.

Women find 2 types of men the easiest to manipulate:
1)Arrogant, overly confident men.
Why?Because they can use their ego against them.
2)Men with absolutely no backbone that just hide in some hole somewhere the moment they are confronted.
Why?Because they can be shamed into submission.

Women also hate 2 types of men:
1)Men with confidence who don’t take themselves too seriously.
Why?Not taking yourself seriously but still having confidence is like a repellent for manipulation.

2)Humble men that have enough skill in something to beat the majority of the competition.Men who would also stand up for themselves if confronted.
Why?If you are doing something better then everyone else and you’re humble ,it must mean you judge yourself by higher standards.
You’re also setting a higher standard yourself.
Who was it that hated standards?I think most of us know the answer to that question cough..women..cough.

The whole idea of this is to polarise the characters of men into the 2 categories women find the easiest to manipulate.
Either extremely arrogant or extremely shy.
For this to happen men must be made to believe that there are no exceptions, no alternative personas they can have.
Hence this must be repeated over and over.
Hence it must be repeated over and over by men too, not only women for it to work.
Hence they use the group which looks for their validation the most(the PUA’s) as a bridge to inject this virus into the manosphere.

It is sad that even some respectable men have picked up on this idea without being aware of it’s purpose.

I hope i’ve helped you see what i see in this.Have a good day.

[Anonymous 24]

Franky wrote:

Women also hate 2 types of men:
1)Men with confidence who don’t take themselves too seriously.
Why?Not taking yourself seriously but still having confidence is like a repellent for manipulation.

And when you are able to knowingly do this because you understand the dynamics of it, it is fantastic. Women are actually often confused by this type of guy, all the better I say. Use smoke and diversion in battle, all is fair in love and war.

[Anonymous 54]

Great post Franky. I hate the whole alpha beta concept .I dont dominate you,you dont dominate me.And the women..who gives a f~~~ what they think.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Preach

are you a chia pet in man drag

[MoonlightParticipant 223]

MGTOW are referred to as zeta males.

One of my married friends calls me a beta male because I don’t have a girlfriend. I just say, “no” and leave it at that.

[Anonymous 3]

Well said.

It’s exactly like the “real man” rhetoric.

[Anonymous 54]

Moonlight wrote:

MGTOW are referred to as zeta males.

One of my married friends calls me a beta male because I don’t have a girlfriend. I just say, “no” and leave it at that.

So being married makes him an alfa? Makes him pussy whipped!!

[MoonlightParticipant 223]

Anonymous wrote:

Moonlight wrote:

MGTOW are referred to as zeta males.

One of my married friends calls me a beta male because I don’t have a girlfriend. I just say, “no” and leave it at that.

So being married makes him an alfa? Makes him pussy whipped!!

Pussy whipped is right. He brags about how his wife is the boss. I don’t say anything because he’s as blue pill as he can get. Hopefully his wife will remain loyal but I’m not betting on it. Especially since she’s obsessed with them having kids even though they definitely can’t afford it.

Money will ultimately make or break their relationship.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

Great post. I think the whole construct is misapplied and misunderstood , especially by the PUA’s. EVERYONE has both traits to varying degrees.

[Anonymous 11]

I’ll use it loosely to broadly describe concepts, but they are not accurate. I’ve seen “pussy alphas” who were the most slovenly failures one could imagine.

To me, Chad level is a top 5% and guys that are simply OK in attracting these hand grenades make up the next 15%. The remaining cohort get the obese scraps and/or screwed over at first available opportunity. They are all blue pill even most Chads are too..

Red pill is the best strategy from Chad to the Cheeto munching Mom’s basement dwelling obese virginal neckbeard.

[AttonParticipant]

Moonlight wrote:

MGTOW are referred to as zeta males.

One of my married friends calls me a beta male because I don’t have a girlfriend. I just say, “no” and leave it at that.

MGTOW are the sith

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[narwhalParticipant]

It’s a concept, not an exact science. Alpha is just a word to summarize the usual characteristics of someone who is successful and attracts women. Beta are characteristics that tends to be unsuccessful and not attract women. I personally don’t have a problem with trying to be more ‘alpha’ if the goal is to be a better version of yourself, but it’s a waste if you’re just trying to fool everyone.

And I agree that we all have strong and weak characteristics. Personally, I am very confident at work and other situations where I am in my comfort zone. Outside of my comfort zone not so much. A person who likely have a view of me depending on what environment I am in at the time.

I would say it’s useful to understand the terms and what characteristics fit which classifications, but I wouldn’t worry about trying to fit into the mold.

Ok. Then do it.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Franky wrote:

Who gave birth to this idea is unclear.
I’d guess it’s either women, or PUAs ,which is still indirectly women, because it has to please them in order validate the PUAs.

It goes as follows:
“Men are either alpha or beta, no exceptions,
alphas are strong and successful and skilled, they have confidence
betas are weak unsuccessful and unskilled, they lack confidence.”

It is critical one of these categories is always bestowed on a man, so that we understand how his interaction with the world works:
“See that guy failed, it’s because he’s a beta.”

If this was true, why don’t people predict what will happen going by these classifications?
It’s always stated AFTER the competition between “the alpha”and the “beta is over”.

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(ignore the ratarded headline, “mean bully got owned”, who named this a 14 year old or something?)

“See the guy with the tattoos was a beta and lost.Betas loose right?What did you expect?”

Why is this “beta” so confident and so… fitting of the whole image of an alpha?I’d say he was even a bit arrogant.
And why is the “alpha” so shy?Or should i say, humble?

And why didn’t anyone try to tell who’s the “alpha” and who’s the “beta” before the fight?

What if the tattooed guy trained more and beat the other guy?Would he be the “alpha” now?
Would the other guy become a “beta” after losing?Or are they both alphas now is that it?

If a “beta” just so happens and wins a 100 times in a row, cause he got damn good at something is he an “alpha” now?

I’ll tell you something what makes men succeed is not this notion of “alpha/beta”, it’s skill and hard work.
Anyone can become good at something and “turn into an alpha” if he wants to.Not only that ,it’s a f~~~ing common sight.
I’ve lost the count on the guys i know that “turned into alphas”.

So if this transition between the two categories is so common why do these categories exist in the first place?

Here we must return to the origin.
Who came up with this idea?Women, or people trying to please them, so still indirectly women.

Women find 2 types of men the easiest to manipulate:
1)Arrogant, overly confident men.
Why?Because they can use their ego against them.
2)Men with absolutely no backbone that just hide in some hole somewhere the moment they are confronted.
Why?Because they can be shamed into submission.

Women also hate 2 types of men:
1)Men with confidence who don’t take themselves too seriously.
Why?Not taking yourself seriously but still having confidence is like a repellent for manipulation.

2)Humble men that have enough skill in something to beat the majority of the competition.Men who would also stand up for themselves if confronted.
Why?If you are doing something better then everyone else and you’re humble ,it must mean you judge yourself by higher standards.
You’re also setting a higher standard yourself.
Who was it that hated standards?I think most of us know the answer to that question cough..women..cough.

The whole idea of this is to polarise the characters of men into the 2 categories women find the easiest to manipulate.
Either extremely arrogant or extremely shy.
For this to happen men must be made to believe that there are no exceptions, no alternative personas they can have.
Hence this must be repeated over and over.
Hence it must be repeated over and over by men too, not only women for it to work.
Hence they use the group which looks for their validation the most(the PUA’s) as a bridge to inject this virus into the manosphere.

It is sad that even some respectable men have picked up on this idea without being aware of it’s purpose.

I hope i’ve helped you see what i see in this.Have a good day.

It’s natural dude. Sorry but if it was a human construct it would be just in our behavior like clothing.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Women have many ways to objectify men.

They judge us with barely a thought.

Beware.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Anonymous 54]

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Atton wrote:

MGTOW are the sith

Jedi used to be cool till the prequels. Now jedi are f~~s. Being a Sith is pimp as f~~~.

[Anonymous 3]

Pussy beggars are effeminate men and they are obsessed with classifying themselves as something other than what they are. And they will go to great lengths to have you believe it.

Unfortunately society is rigged because it’s gynocentric to give them that podium and let them control narrative.

But you have a place like this, that can dish out truth.

Truth is, the so-called alphas/PUAs make up a lot of bulls~~~ and are anything but at the top. They are pretty far below and want to talk themselves up.

Tell me if guys like Tom Brady, Brad Pitt, Steve Jobs, Obama and other powerful men, no matter what you think of them, are out chasing pussy? They are all married to women that also likely didn’t sleep around and whom these PUAs have zero shot at, have never had a shot at, and will do their best to pretend they don’t want at all. Look up the list of top supermodels, pretty much all are married and very rarely are known for sleeping around. They all have limited partners, or no partners before marriage. This is how the real top works. Most do it out of site. Fortune 50 CEOs and COOs, high ranking politicians, bankers, etc.

The media is designed to destroy the morality of the masses, and has done so. But the true upper classes still retain the previous behaviors before the widespread degradation of behavior that the media has caused in recent decades.

[SimpleLifeParticipant 439]

I thought the whole alpha/beta thing was far too simplistic when I first read it a while back. Although I have observed the AF/BB behaviour in women.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

The concept is absolute horse s~~~ and trollops who perpetuate it are parasites looking for a host.

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