The Celebration Of Shameful Outcomes

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

Got word this morning that a friend of a friend got knocked up by a guy she was dating. I was sent a facebook screenshot. Anyone remember when it was something society frowned upon when a woman got knocked up out of wedlock? Remember when your parents used those examples to threaten to kill you if you did the same? Such is apparently not the case anymore.
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It absolutely shocks me that this stuff is simply glorified right outta the gate, and the “followers” fall all over themselves to say congrats, and pound the like button. I know this isn’t new, but the complete absence of any shame whatsoever somehow hit me like a ton of bricks this morning.
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I have a boat load of nieces that I care very much about. I can’t help but wonder what impression they’re getting watching their fellow women being raised up for all to see as some miracle worker having been “blessed” with a baby. She was proud to report he “manned up” and is marrying her and they are house hunting. I’m sure he’ll receive some very nice tools to work the yard and upkeep the house for fathers day. Only thing I could imagine was a man being swept out to see in a flash flood of sewage.
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I’m at a loss for words. Still too shocked to form a coherent thought other than this. What if a single guy would get on there and express his shared excitement for them, congratulate them, and profess, “I’ve been trying to get every woman I sleep with pregnant, but haven’t been blessed yet like you have.” Would the reaction be the same?

[Anonymous 42]

WhackerGuy2030 wrote:

Anyone remember when it was something society frowned upon when a woman got knocked up out of wedlock?

Hey Wackerguy, You need to pose that question to the 70, 80, and 90 year old crowd, I grew up during the incubation of the sexual revolution, I can remember my grandfather being appalled at how women were behaving, he was a man that spoke his mind, he never could have imagined the Bruce Jenner fiasco! Much less women laughing hysterically on national TV over the amputation of a man’s penis.

Girls gone wild, and wild has teeth, avoid women and you avoid getting bit. They’re destroying everything including themselves, all we need to do is stay out of their reckless way.

[Anonymous 11]

I was raised by the 90 year old crowd. In her later years, my mother told me she understood why I never married with modern women being the way they are. I’ve known a select few that were actually decent over the years, but they usually ended up with some ne’er-do-well sponge.

My oldest niece is a perfect example. She works her ass off while her husband sits around all day at the house smoking pot. There is some hypergamy involved as they both sponge off his father. So, she is a f~~~ing sponge too. My dad would have kicked them both under the bridge.

Back in my mom’s day, a woman would be hidden away by her family, shamed, and shunned if she were impregnated out of wedlock.

We need to go back to those days of shaming and also take away their privilege to vote. They abuse that privilege like crackheads.

My condolences to your friend’s sperm donor.

[narwhalParticipant]

I see this as such a catch-22 situation. There’s no good way to respond to this. I don’t want to encourage abortion. I do not want to encourage a woman trying to raise a child without a father. I do not want to encourage getting married just because she got knocked up.

I don’t know that shaming after the fact really does much good. Only good it could really do is set an example to other women who might want to follow her lead.

I guess I don’t approach this with celebration or shame, but a blank face. I’ll save my reaction to how she handles it going forward.

If your going to shame, I’d rather shame for correctable actions. Shame a slut for sleeping around and being irresponsible. Don’t shame a single mom for being a single mom, shame her for not taking all the responsibility it takes to raise a kid.

Ok. Then do it.

[AttonParticipant]

Standards and discipline are non existent it seems.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 42]

narwhal wrote:

I see this as such a catch-22 situation. There’s no good way to respond to this. I don’t want to encourage abortion. I do not want to encourage a woman trying to raise a child without a father. I do not want to encourage getting married just because she got knocked up.

narwhal, I feel the same way, I saw the s~~~ for what it was and tossed the whole idea in the trash simply by refusing to walk down Slaughterman isle.

Leave it to women to complicate things so much that a man has to dispose of them altogether. That’s pretty f~~~ed up!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

WhackerGuy2030 wrote:

What if a guy….. would the reaction be the same?

Take almost ANYTHING that is “socially acceptable”, applauded and encouraged, flip the sexes, and ask if the reaction would be the same. How hard would everyone laugh if a man expected to be “congratulated” for f~~~ing without a condom. Or if he expected a “shower” (of GIFTS!) for that.

Did anyone ever throw you a party, congratulate or celebrate your life choices because you started a business that you built up over 9 months? That takes way more skill, work, and dedication then laying back with your legs apart.

Is it “ha ha funny” or socially acceptable to interrupt a woman and say: “No penis. No opinion.”?

Well it is NOW.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

I’m afraid you lost me at “Facebook.”

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25018]

I remember the big todo about the first time a woman had a baby out of wedlock occurred in a TV show. Back in those days they knew that the societal acceptance, lack of shame, of single motherhood would change American culture.

Thus a war between single mom Hollywood and Reagan’s Washington occurred.

Reagan sent an envoy to Hollywood in the person of his Vice President the much maligned Dan Quale.

The very popular feminist program, a how to be a single working woman, Murphy Brown, had an episode where she has a child by artificial insemination even though she was single.

The idea of airing and thus endorsing such a lifestyle decision was unthinkable and a bad influence on children, said Reagan’s Quale.

Well Hollywierd won and Quale was laughed out of politics.

That was when the left made it official that being a single mom carried no shame.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 54]

I guess i am old because i remember the days when unwed mothers where shamed. The where sent off to live somewhere else with a story of a dead husband.It ruined there lives.It sent a clear message to young girls to not act like a slut.At the time I thought it was too harsh. People are humans and make mistakes.Espesaly at a young age. .But now it has gone the other way to dammed far.Hell when we were kids my folks got divorced. The other neiborhood kids where no longer allowed to play with us.And a divor ed women was a horny slut to be f~~~ed but not married.Times have changed.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

As I stated on a previous thread, If there was a male contraceptive pill the whole social dynamic would change. Both parties would have to agree to have a baby. Women couldn’t spermjack or present an “OOPS” baby.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Female empowerment.

Zero Tolerance

[FreedomParticipant 295]

Spreading one’s legs and letting nature run its course is not an accomplishment. Having a child when one is not economically prepared to provide is not heroic. This woman’s pregnancy is a burden that any reasonable person would agonize over, and yet all her friends cheer her on as if she just won the lottery!

It’s all about being valued; one of our deepest psychological needs. Bearing children is the female’s biological role, and so the idea that pregnant = valuable is written deep into our brains, and especially in the female brain. So women cheer mothers (single or otherwise) largely as an unconscious reaction to the pregnancy, rather than from a position of rational reflection.

At 7 billion and rising, more people is the last thing we need. I refuse to congratulate single mothers in any context.

It is wise to fear dangerous commitments.

[HitmanParticipant]

like one man here posted the other day said,
women will celebrate anything..
not important what it is..
i echo the brothers above who stated years ago that s~~~ would be shamed and the woman hidden away during the pregnancy.
it’s a sad comment on social conditions when this is “liked ” by so many.
the “sheepeole ” will run over a cliff to their collective demise..
taking ‘selfies ” while they fall…

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

What’s your view on eloping? That used to be considered shameful, and to a certain extent still is. Obviously none of us here wholeheartedly support marriage in any formation, but if you had a friend who confided to you that he wanted to do it, what would you say to him?

Not that I have anything planned, it would just be interesting to hear, since a surprising amount of people I know are against it.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[Anonymous 54]

Check out love child by Diana Ross.A look into the old days.(My hero James Jamerson on bass)

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

narwhal wrote:

I don’t know that shaming after the fact really does much good. Only good it could really do is set an example to other women who might want to follow her lead.

I’m not saying anyone should publicly or even privately try to rain shame down on her. I’m simply saying she shouldn’t be held up as if she were Jesus himself riding into town to a crowd waving palm branches.
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Once the gravy’s in the bowl, the deed is done. It doesn’t need to be glorified by the idiocracy as some divine miracle. I don’t feel any smarter today than I was yesterday, but I feel this is a good shot in the arm to convince me society is rapidly getting dumber.
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And to set the record straight, I was not on facebook. I got off that three years ago. I had a friend see it and sent me a screen shot. I had my fill of emo’s, posers, and moms and infants that I shut that s~~~ down long ago.

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Anonymous wrote:

What if a single guy would get on there and express his shared excitement for them, congratulate them, and profess, “I’ve been trying to get every woman I sleep with pregnant, but haven’t been blessed yet like you have.” Would the reaction be the same?

That’s a great question. Well worth a try.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

At least have of them are being nice. Nobody wants to call her a loser, because of sensitivity is at stake. Pity enjoys company, I believe is the main reason.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[experiencedParticipant]

Years ago the starting point benchmark was abstinence.
“Oh, you’re not going to abstain, well then you’d better …. …. …. …. ….”
Nowadays the intersection of the x and y axis = everyone f~~~ing like rabbits, and surprise, that has it’s consequences.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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