the big question

[GoingMYway81Participant 82]

I’ve been asking this one question lately and, cant come to a rational answer. So I will leave it here for us to ponder. If love and women having love for you is an illusion…a way to keep you trapped, away from greatness…What else is an illusion that is holding us back?

Trust your manstincts...they will NEVER steer you wrong

[KeymasterKeymaster]

“Control” is an illusion. It’s really only possible if the person or (or object) allows itself to be controlled – or is controllable. But “control freaks” don’t actually have any.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GoingMYway81Participant 82]

Keymaster wrote:

“Control” is an illusion. It’s really only possible if the person or (or object) allows itself to be controlled – or is controllable. But “control freaks” don’t actually have any.

True…the one of the base tenants of MGTOW is realizing that women have no power over you, your thoughts, emotions or your bank account. That you yourself make your own decisions and dictate your own life. I guess back in my blue pill days I really wanted to believe the perfect woman existed for me somewhere. I was disillusioned by it and having one relationship fail right after another was because I believed that women could do no wrong. I blindly followed women into oblivion and gave them the power to destroy me by allowing them to “control” me. Today, I’m at peace with myself. No worries, no hassles, no women, and I have my hand on the rudder of my life. Good one KM. What else holds us back from greatness?

Trust your manstincts...they will NEVER steer you wrong

[RoyDalParticipant]

Letting a woman control your destiny, it’s in the top-five list of the biggest mistakes a man can make.

Seriously, whole dynasties have collapsed because their emperor let some woman lead him around.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Honorable_Juice_BoxParticipant 591]

Besides women in general, society as a whole is always telling men they are worthless; for some this can become a self-fulfilling prophecy if internalized.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

RoyDal wrote:

Letting a woman control your destiny, it’s in the top-five list of the biggest mistakes a man can make.

Seriously, whole dynasties have collapsed because their emperor let some woman lead him around.

Exactly, or putting her needs and desires first. Never do this men, I did a few times with women and all it did was set me back in many ways and I lost the most precious commodity ever….time!

[OldBillParticipant]

GoingMYway81 wrote:

What else holds us back from greatness?

What else holds us back? There isn’t a multitude of things which hold us back. Instead, there’s only one thing; Ourselves.

You’ll notice it was the same thing which caused your earlier problems with women.

Women didn’t control you. Women didn’t have real power over you. You allowed them that control and you gave them that power. The real problem was you and your perceptions.

Consider this epigram from Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations:

“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any minute.”

Once you realized that you and your perceptions had given those women control over you – that it was your estimate of their value which gave them their power – you changed your perceptions and revoked your grant of control and power to them.

Also consider this epigram from Epictetus:

“Nobody will harm you, unless you consent, evil will only come when you deem it hurts.”

In the end, the only thing holding you back is you. It’s not people and events which control you, it’s your reaction to people and events which control you.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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