The best answer to NAWALT: WANALT?

[VladParticipant 210]

There are a lot of women offended by reality and blue-pilled men, which say that “not all women are like that” in response to usual statement AWALT.

Well, it is difficult to say how much of the woman population is really NAWALT, because all women pretend to be them; all I can certainly say that they exist, but in statistically insignificant amount <1% as of today.

That alone makes search for NAWALT woman an excersise in futility, because you have to be master psychoanalytic to get error rate below 2% and even then it means >50% chance to get wrong woman.

But it gets worse from there.

First. The evolution is always going(simply) in direction of food base expansion and lessening dependence on environment conditions. Sounds familiar for modern women evolution, eh?

Second. Women’s psyche is volatile. In 3-5 years it can be another person, changing her preferences and even sexual orientation.

In short, woman’s psyche mutates with rate of setting new properties of about 4 years, which was set by evolution as term she REALLY attached to her baby. Even less period if she didn’t have any kid.

In previous centuries it was possible for husbands and government to guide women evolution by punishing unwanted mutations of behaviour. That was getting results, there were more NAWALTs. Even then, marriage wasn’t worth much.

But today, when any application of “external” pressure to women, like older social norms, was basically outlawed by gynocentric laws, they mutate and evolve unchecked.

So, basically even if you got N.A.W.A.L.T.(Not All Women Are Like That), there comes in play factor WANALT(Woman Are Not Always Like That). Women do not stay NAWALT long.

And the rate of rampant mutation means that even if you against all odds got pure white unicorn for your wife, in modern society and law environment with >80% chance it mutates within 10 years and you get no better than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEkkDW1s3k

So, basically, existence of NAWALT women today is not argument for long-term relationships, much less marriage with them.

Any experiences or thoughts about this would be welcome.

Marriage is the tomb of love (c)Giacomo Casanova

[Will RobinsonParticipant 3479]

nawalt
yet

May you walk in peace and happiness, May you and all mgtow, near and far walk in peace and happiness.

[WallyParticipant]

Good analysis, women are very much in the moment creatures, what she says only applies now.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Yeah, I keep it SIMPLE; AWALT.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

I think people in the outside world grossly misunderstand how much the menstrual and child-rearing instincts drive female behavior. Their morality and ability to comprehend abstract thinking is limited to what can be effectively demonstrated to a 3-year-old. They only have the physical presence to intimidate a small child into submission. Once the kid is old enough to be reasonably self-sufficient for at least a few hours at a time, the maternal instinct kicks over to “must make new baby.”

That hypergamous maternal instinct drives everything.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

The best answer is don’t marry, cohabitate or impregnate.
AWALT is a sliding scale of a woman’s natural tendencies.
Any of a million things can push that scale up or down from a simple s~~~ test to false accusations. You will never know till it happens.

All the above (3) create a legal and binding contract that is expressly there to extort resources from you.
Danger Will Robinson!

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[narwhalParticipant]

Not crazy about trying to make this is all ‘sciencey’ by claiming that women mutate. Changes in behavior is not a mutation.

But you are correct, women act on emotion, and their emotion is situational. Thus their actions will change depending on the situation. A man tends to act based on commitments, and thus it does not change with the situation.

I see another aspect to this as well, besides the change from ‘Not Like That’ to ‘Like That’. ‘That’ can be any one of a very high number of different things. Not all women are going to cheat on you. Not all women are going to deny you sex. Not all women are going to gain weight after you’re tied in. Not all women are going to divorce from boredom. Not all women are…the list goes on forever. You may find a unicorn who is an exception in a few of the ‘that’s, but the odds of finding someone who is NAWALT in all of the important ‘that’s is…not very good at all.

Ok. Then do it.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Top gun thread!

Keep it simple:

Women are unstable creatures not suited for stable relationships.

The churches forced them into stability so mankind could spread and grow…

Now that’s why women call it oppression.

The churches/religions and the “patriarchy” forced them into a stable = boring life.

They are sluts by nature and stability = marriage is dead.

Mankind will – in the future – have to shrink and survive on the few “whoops”-babies that still make it to the outside without getting aborted.

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

I have no words for it. Bravo!

Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

[Anonymous 38]

There is a flaw in most AWALT/NAWALT argumentation because arguers are not always making the same point.

All Woman Are Like WHAT? Not All Women Are Like WHAT?

Does “NAWALT” mean “all women are hypergamous” (true), or simply “all women are c~~~s who will screw you over” (false).

I have a NAWALT, as compared to most women. She is strong but submissive, not manipulative in a harmful way, she does as much for me as I do for her, she is open to red pill ideas even if many of my ideas have shocked her initially (she says I’ve opened her eyes and let her think/speak the truth), she rejects the false and superficial, didn’t have any one night stands, I could go on.

And yet she is an AWALT because she is still hypergamous. And I’ve no doubt this will come on display not long after she starts considering me as lesser value than what she deserves. She could also decide her current life strategy is boring and be a ‘good girl gone bad’. She raised an eyebrow of mine the other day when she said she wants to watch “Eat Pray Love”… this is me, the watcher, looking for displays of her turning. I find it amusing. As much as I’m fond of her, if she ‘turns’, it’s no biggie. I’ll tell her I’m thankful for the time we had together, and get on with enjoying the rest of my life and the new adventures it will bring.

My opinion is it’s a pointless debate with no end. The best answer is “Who cares?”

We know all women have the capacity to destroy a man (or at least try). But then, all men have the capacity to destroy a woman, albeit usually in a different way.

Men shout “AWALT! AWALT!” as a justification of their life choice or inability to get a woman (TFL). Going monk as a choice is fine, commendable even, but if you think it’s cos “all women are bad” you’re (nearly) as bad as a feminist.

MOST women today are utter s~~~. And if you find a good one, you can’t ‘relax’. It takes work to keep good people in your life because they expect good things from you. But when you find someone who’s a friend as well as a lover, you might not be so reluctant to give yourself a little. Especially as a self-respecting man, you’ll make sure they’re giving to YOU as well – otherwise you wouldn’t even be with them still.

I’ve no doubt that people who cannot see the nuance in what I’m saying will align my post with a typical trad con view, someone who “believes in unicorns”. Well, I’m not gonna waste my time trying to make inferior minds understand my point.

Just ignore the AWALT NAWALT debate, it’s bulls~~~. F~~~ all that, just go your own way.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Watch this video to see how fast the hive turns your NAWALT into an AWALT.

This is not YouTube click bait, this is real. I had to witness and endure such conversations at customer’s houses…

MGTOW 101, from my archive.org account:

Runs 4:15

https://ia601500.us.archive.org/10/items/MarriageOnlyFavoursWomenMGTOW/Marriage%20Only%20Favours%20Women%20MGTOW.mp4?_=1

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[VladParticipant 210]

narwhal wrote:

Not crazy about trying to make this is all ‘sciencey’ by claiming that women mutate. Changes in behavior is not a mutation.

Well, “mutation” is shorter than “personality shift” and describes process more accurately. For woman psyche is in constant and random change; not mere changes in behaviour, but acquiring previously absent traits with no observable cause for it. The closest thing is mutation, but feel free to pick more accurate term for that.

And traits that are not punished and beneficial for woman’s own perceived good take hold. This is the reason behind constant “s~~~-testing” men in relationship(t) endure.

Also, this is primary danger for men, even those who thought they were MGTOW: you may find unicorn woman, and it IS perfect AT THE MOMENT, but then…

Marriage is the tomb of love (c)Giacomo Casanova

[VladParticipant 210]

Anonymous wrote:

There is a flaw in most AWALT/NAWALT argumentation because arguers are not always making the same point.

All Woman Are Like WHAT? Not All Women Are Like WHAT?

For the sake of clarity: in context of the discussion AWALT means “man cannot have net-positive relationship with the woman, and women for which the statement is true, comprise overwhelming majority of women.”

Marriage is the tomb of love (c)Giacomo Casanova

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Anonymous wrote:

There is a flaw in most AWALT/NAWALT argumentation because arguers are not always making the same point

Yeah, I Keep it Simple; If I’m in doubt about context I just assume AWALT as NAWALT is best suited for fairy tales.

This process hasn’t failed me yet. LOL

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[VladParticipant 210]

One of main points of what I written is: you should be prepared that you may sometime observe REAL NAWALT woman. She may be genuinely good. And you may have sneaking suspicion that really not all women AWALT… But make no mistake: in current social environment that NAWALT won’t last. Many good men were captured by that.

Marriage is the tomb of love (c)Giacomo Casanova

[IRuleMeParticipant]

They’re right. Not all women are like that. However, ENOUGH women are like that, that the risk and effort isn’t worth the expected result. You may very well find a unicorn. But how many women are you willing to go through to find out? And even if you find her, the laws haven’t changed, and the system hasn’t changed.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

AWALT.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

Whenever I hear a woman say “Not all women are like that”,
I’ll say “Ok, name two. Name two woman you know that aren’t like that.”
Blank stare every time…

[It’sallbsParticipant]

IRuleMe wrote:

They’re right. Not all women are like that. However, ENOUGH women are like that, that the risk and effort isn’t worth the expected result. You may very well find a unicorn. But how many women are you willing to go through to find out? And even if you find her, the laws haven’t changed, and the system hasn’t changed.

The danger with that rule me is many will go on the search and get taken in.

I won’t name names but there are people on this forum doing just that, of course they will deny it until the cows come home.

Unicorns do not exist please accept that for your own good.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

Yeah, I keep it SIMPLE; AWALT.

Yes they 100% are AWALT.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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