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I think I was always against feminism and back in my blue pill years I ended up looking at related articles regarding marriage and feminism in general.
This was the article that gave me my first red pill. I think I was heading down the MGTOW path eventually, whether or not I ended up finding this article. But, this was the first “red pill” I actually took and very slowly after searching for other related content, I ended up becoming MGTOW.
9 Reasons Why You Should Not Get Married, According to a Married Guy
Good post. As a former dumbass who made the mistake of being married, I can attest that every one of those points are true.
That article may be a candidate for the archives if it isn’t already.Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
This article is a true gem. I know some married guys who will swear to it … if their wives are not within earshot.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I’m just glad I avoided the s~~~ hole known as marriage. I’ve seen what it done to most of the men in my family including my dad. Every man in my family that’s married are either white knights or manginas.
The part that struck me the most was how much the initial ceremony of marriage costs. I could buy a house with that much money. Or hell, even a really cheap condo or car.
The part that struck me the most was how much the initial ceremony of marriage costs. I could buy a house with that much money. Or hell, even a really cheap condo or car.
I pointed this obvious fact out to one of my cousins. She slapped me down really hard (well, she tried to; it didn’t bother me). For the cost of her wedding, she could have had a down payment on a nice house, a backyard reception after a church marriage, and there would have been enough change left over for the “happy” couple to spend two weeks in Hawaii. But nooo!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Good article that is that real deal there a life.of slavery like a.pathetic fool and if one day she gets bored kaboom child support alimony asset splitting no thanks.I’ll.pass
That’s because women want everything to be about them. Especially weddings. If you think about it, you’d have to be pretty narcissistic in general to want a day such as a wedding that’s costly as f~~~.
I get spending that type of money on yourself every now and then especially if it’s a trip far away from your home. But, I’d rather spend that much money on things that would last more than a day.
This one is a lot like that one: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/helen-smith/8-reasons-men-dont-want-t_b_3467778.html
Written by Helen Smith, same author of “Men on Strike.”
1. You’ll lose respect. A couple of generations ago, a man wasn’t considered fully adult until he was married with kids. But today, fathers are figures of fun more than figures of respect: The schlubby guy with the flowered diaper bag at the mall, or one of the endless array of buffoonish TV dads in sitcoms and commercials. In today’s culture, father never knows best. It’s no better in the news media. As communications professor James Macnamara reports, “by volume, 69 percent of mass media reporting and commentary on men was unfavorable, compared with just 12 percent favorable and 19 percent neutral or balanced.”
2. You’ll lose out on sex. Married men have more sex than single men, on average – but much less than men who are cohabiting with their partners outside of marriage, especially as time goes on. Research even suggests that married women are more likely to gain weight than women who are cohabiting without marriage. A Men’s Health article mentioned one study that followed 2,737 people for six years and found that cohabiters said they were happier and more confident than married couples and singles.
3. You’ll lose friends. “Those wedding bells are breaking up that old gang of mine.” That’s an old song, but it’s true. When married, men’s ties with friends from school and work tend to fade. Although both men and women lose friends after marriage, it tends to affect men’s self-esteem more, perhaps because men tend to be less social in general.
4. You’ll lose space. We hear a lot about men retreating to their “man caves,” but why do they retreat? Because they’ve lost the battle for the rest of the house. The Art of Manliness blog mourns “The Decline of Male Space,” and notes that the development of suburban lifestyles, intended to bring the family together, resulted in the elimination of male spaces in the main part of the house, and the exile of men to attics, garages, basements – the least desirable part of the home. As a commenter to the post observes: “There was no sadder scene to a movie than in ‘Juno’ when married guy Jason Bateman realized that in his entire huge, house, he had only a large closet to keep all the stuff he loved in. That hit me like a punch in the face.”
5. You could lose your kids, and your money. And they may not even be your kids. Lots of men I spoke with were keenly aware of the dangers of divorce, and worried that if they were married and it went sour, the woman might take everything, including the kids. Other men were concerned that they might wind up paying child support for kids who aren’t even theirs – a very real possibility in many states. On my blog, I polled over 3200 men to ask how they would react to finding out that a child wasn’t theirs after all. 32 percent said they would feel “anger and fury at the mother,” 6 percent said they would feel “depression,” 18 percent said “anger and depression,” 2 percent said “none of the above,” 32 percent said “angry at the system that forced them to pay,” and only 2 percent “didn’t care.” One man commented that his ex-wife had taunted him with the knowledge that his 11-year old son wasn’t actually his: “I was angry at the mother…I severed all ties to the boy. Some may see this as a failing. I see it as self-preservation, and to those that ask the question of whether or not the courts will make a non-biological parent pay child support, pay attention: YES THEY WILL! They see you as nothing more than a source of cash for the child. It seems that a person in these situations should be able to sue the real father for child support.”
6. You’ll lose in court. Men often complain that the family court legal system is stacked against them, and in fact it seems to be. Women gain custody and child support the majority of the time, as pointed out in this ABC News article: “Despite the increases in men seeking and receiving alimony, advocates warn against linking the trend to equality in the courtroom. Family court judges still tend to favor women, said Ned Holstein, the founder of Fathers & Families, a group advocating family court reform. “‘Family court still gives custody overwhelmingly to mothers, child support overwhelmingly to mothers, and courts still give almony overwhelmingly to mothers and women,’ he said. ‘The family courts came into existence years ago in order to give things to mothers that mothers needed,” he said. ‘The times have changed and the courts have not.'”
7. You’ll lose your freedom. At least, if you’re charged with child support that you can’t pay, you can be put in jail – and if you can’t afford a lawyer, you don’t have the right to have one appointed because, according to the Supreme Court, it’s technically a civil matter, never mind the jail time. Fathers and Families found that it’s the men who are jailed rather than women: “A new report concludes that between 95% and 98.5% of all incarcerations in Massachusetts sentenced from the Massachusetts Probate and Family Courts from 2001 through 2011 have been men. Moreover, this percentage may be increasing, with an average of 94.5% from 2001 to 2008, and 96.2% from 2009 through 2011. It is likely that most of these incarcerations are for incomplete payment of child support. Further analysis suggests that women who fail to pay all of their child support are incarcerated only one-eighth as often as men with similar violations.”
8. Single life is better than ever. While the value of marriage to men has declined, the quality of single life has improved. Single men were once looked on with suspicion, passed over for promotion for important jobs, which usually valued “stable family men,” and often subjected to social opprobrium. It was hard to have a love life that wasn’t aimed at marriage, and premarital sex was risky and frowned upon. Now, no one looks askance at the single lifestyle, dating is easy, and employers probably prefer employees with no conflicting family responsibilities. Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn’t used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition.
Clarification: From author Helen Smith: “I talked only with heterosexual men about marriage for the book. It did not include same-sex marriages. However the dynamics of same -sex marriage would be a fascinating study for future research.” — HuffPost Eds.
FOLLOW BOOKSThat’s a great article. Thanks for sharing it with us Silent.
I live the life I love and I love the life I live.
Great article!
"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K
Anonymous54Great artical. Been there. All 100 percent true. It should be manditory reading for all nuckle heads thinking about getting married.Blowjobs are replaced buy endless nagging. In a dirty bathrobe.
1. Bookmark this page.
2. Next time you’re feeling lonely visit this page.
3. Realise how happy you are.
4. You know the rest.Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman
Having been married I agree about all points except one – number 7.
Personally I don’t think the main problem is “Sex with Only One Person for the Rest of Your Life” – that would be good if a married man would continue to have a lot of sex, or at least enough sex, within his marriage – the real problem is that within a marriage sex become less and less frequent, and through years is more and more used by her as a tool to manipulate and control her husband.
Also, the love of my life is offended by the point 7, when it said “Vaginas are like cars, you appreciate the one you have but you always want to get inside a new one”.
She is REALLY upsetted by such affirmation.
This is the love of my lifeSUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
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