Thanks

[TriviumParticipant 1029]

Without getting a bit on the mushy side I wanted to put a big general thank you out there to you guys. You have supported me in more ways over the last year (most of which I was just lurking) than you could possibly imagine and I think I at least owe you a thank you.

I was contemplating a lot of self-destructive behavior after my relationship shattered, I thought I was the problem for a long time (even during my relationship) and it was literally this site, Red pill content on the web and in the last few weeks being able to post here that gave me perspective and allowed me to put myself together correctly again (or at least in a way that I feel comfortable with myself).

You have given me the red pills I needed, called me out on self-destructive thoughts and affirmed my behavior when it made sense and even though I am still very much an introvert I can now say that I am happy to be who I am. I am goddamn good at my job, I take pride in the things I do and do them right and I think it is good and right for me to avoid woman like the plague they are and can accept that like minded people can follow different paths in life.

In conclusion all I can say, redundant as it may be, keep up the good work. Even the smallest comment made by you, even if you think yourself to be an insignificant member of this philosophy, can ring true with someone out there lurking and help them out in ways you will never know. In a profoundly sick world, MGTOW is the way, the only way that stands to reason, argument and logic.

This day I raise my glass in your honor, to the offensive bastards, the downtrodden, the plainly average, the intellectuals and the mgtow philosophers alike. Above all I wish you strength, the strength to be the man you want to be.

cheers

"Listen to all, Follow none"

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

No problem brother—we’re glad you’re here and alive and well.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Trivium wrote:

I was contemplating a lot of self-destructive behavior after my relationship shattered, I thought I was the problem for a long time

It’s cleverly designed that way — for you to accept responsibility for things that aren’t even your own fault. When it doesn’t work, men are far too quick to blame themselves:

• “I should have worked on my game”
• “I should have said something else”
• “I should have listened more”
And the ever classic favorite:
• “I shouldn’t have been so nice to her”
etc.

Think about it. Men will actually blame themselves because she dumped him for being “too nice“. She will even attempt to justify it in a courtroom to treat you like an asshole for being too good to her.

… as he stands there scratching his head wondering what the hell he did “wrong”.

It’s preposterous.

Always remember that Americanized women have all been raised and badly programmed in the toxic, corrosive, negative world of feminism. Through no fault of their own… .they just can’t help but look at the world (and you) like a feminist and think like one. She will look for the NEGATIVE in every single one of your qualities – including the positive .

If you put a woman on a pedestal and try to protect her from the rat-race, you’re a male chauvinist.
If you don’t you’re sexist.

If you stay home and do the housework, you’re a pansy.
If she stays home and do the housework, you’re oppressive.

If you work too hard there is never any time for her.
If you don’t work enough, you’re a good-for-nothing bum.

If she has a boring repetitive job with low pay, its called “exploitation”.
If YOU have a boring repetitive job with low pay…..
you should get off your ass and find something better.

If you get a promotion ahead of her, that is favoritism.
If she gets a job ahead of you, it’s equal opportunity.

If you mention how nice she looks, it’s sexual harassment.
If you keep quiet, it’s male indifference.

If you cry, you’re a wimp.
If you don’t, you’re an insensitive bastard.

If you make a decision without consulting her, you’re a chauvinist.
If she makes a decision without consulting you, she’s a liberated woman.

If you ask her to do something she doesn’t enjoy, that’s domination.
If she asks you, it’s a favor.

If you appreciate the female form and frilly underwear, you’re pervert.
If you don’t, you’re gay.

If you like a woman to shave her legs and keep in shape, you’re sexist.
If you don’t, you’re unromantic.

If you try to keep yourself in shape, you’re vain.
If you don’t, you’re a slob.

If you buy her flowers, you’re after something.
If you don’t, you’re not thoughtful.

If you’re proud of your achievements, you’re full of yourself.
If you’re not, you’re not ambitious.

If she has a headache, she’s tired.
If you have a headache, you don’t love her anymore.

If you want it Too often, you’re oversexed.
If you don’t, there must be someone else.

THE BOTTOM LINE…. EVERY one of your qualities will be spun as a negative. This can easily be studied and understood by countless psychologists and anyone with common sense.

You cannot blame yourself for any of it, and when you really think about it, damn near 100% of what you thought you did “wrong”, vanishes instantly.

It’s time for men to flatly accept that you CAN’T maintain a healthy relationship with that s~~~. It’s impossible. There can and never will be a sustainable, harmonious, “partnership” under those conditions. Because now, a man is actually more rewarded by successfully AVOIDING it.

Trivium wrote:

I wanted to put a big general thank you out there to you guys.

And they will be very glad to read it from you knowing it made a difference.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 1]

Keymaster wrote:

If you work too hard there is never any time for her.
If you don’t work enough, you’re a good-for-nothing bum.

Awesome keymaster. I used to hear that exact thing from the XW.

[sequoiaParticipant 467]

Yep to you and all.

Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

KM really has the answers.

Thats why I come here everyday. Its the sharing of hard won knowledge.

I so wish that I could have had access to this wisdom when I was in my 20s.

At least the young guys can see the truth that was denied the old guys.

MGTOW Forever!

It's Time to get Wise

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

you are very welcome brotha,

we are here to support each other in this challenging times.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Appreciated but not necessary.

I am glad you are here.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 1]

I felt like I was alone in my ways to face life, like I was a renegade. And at the same time being single was not only the natural course of my choices, it was the real me, opting out from a sick relationships system.

I thought many times about my parents, they were together from a very young age and never gave up on them and on our family. And I thought “why I cannot have what they had?”, and this question with all the brainwash that the society did to me, and with the loss of my father turned my life into a f~~~ing hell where I just tried to run and run.

Until I faced the true female nature with my bare eyes, after that and after getting myself up again I discovered the Redpill and MGTOW, and those were the last dots to connect in order to have a full picture and the answers I was searching for.

We sometimes underestimate the value of the internet, sharing experinces and opinions, with older and wiser people. When I was 21 I spoke with a retired japanese man via Skype(in english), and that was awesome, just the fact that I can communicate with men all over the world is mind blowing.

Our fathers, Our grandfathers had not this luck, and most of them had to go through the life-experience before understanding reality for what it is. Some of them were lucky/smart, some of them were not.

MGTOW is the only way to live your life without feeling any guilt, without feeling any pain, and feeling safe from their mind games.

We are free.

[Anonymous 43]

dude why engage in self destructive bulls~~~? when you do that crap, you make women everywhere smile.

To get over the self destructive bs, I bought a racquet and some blue b~~~~ and a membership at a club with racquetball courts.

After chasing the f~~~ing blue ball for 2 hours a night…24 hour gym, I didn’t have the energy to cause myself damage.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Trivium wrote:

This day I raise my glass in your honor, to the offensive bastards, the downtrodden, the plainly average, the intellectuals and the mgtow philosophers alike. Above all I wish you strength, the strength to be the man you want to be.

cheers

cheersclink to you & all here!

Right back at ya brother!

It’s a give & take here :)…I too have had it be a life changing experience & it continues to be so!

[Anonymous 0]

Think of the good things you will be able to do in the future. Both for yourself and others.
When those two thoughts dawned on me not too long ago I felt intoxicated with the future. It is the same for you now. So, I welcome the “new Trivium” Here’s to you

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Keymaster wrote:

If you want it Too often, you’re oversexed.
If you don’t, there must be someone else.

If you grab her, and try to feel her up/f~~~ her on the first date, you’re a disgusting pig.
If you don’t, you’re a beta loser.

Men cannot win. It’s that simple. If you’re going to be considered an asshole no matter what you do, you might as well BE an asshole; you’ll find that you’ll have more money, more time, and more sex that way.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Anonymous 42]

Hey Trivium, that was a nice post, I like the way in so many words you said the small things from the humblest people can have tremendous and profound impacts on others. So true, like the butterfly effect…

[AkanbiParticipant 2120]

Trivium wrote:

I thought I was the problem for a long time (even during my relationship) and it was literally this site, Red pill content on the web and in the last few weeks being able to post here that gave me perspective and allowed me to put myself together correctly again (or at least in a way that I feel comfortable with myself).

Your story is very similar to mine. My ex would always make me look like the bad person in most situations. This plunged me into emotional stress.

I’m really glad I discovered the red pill…and then, MGTOW. Now I know no female tricks can ever work on me again.

The level of wisdom on these MGTOW forums is superb. Make sure you check in regularly. There’s a lot to learn.

My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.

[solitudeParticipant 346]

Ya this place rocks. No longer do I need to waste time on faux mgtow forums like reddit and the rest of the crap out there.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Same feeling bro.

Come to think of it, I sometimes like to speculate what life would have been if I hadn’t come across mgtow.

I’d probably be giving a lot of f~~~s and messing up my head pretty bad.

I only hope I can give back 10x what this place has given me.

Peace.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[RhettParticipant 637]

Great post bro, we’ve all been taken to the brink one way or the other.

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

I wish there was a way to get young men to realize the simple truth that no vagina is worth your life. Your life, the things that you do with it, your sheer freedom is way more valuable than anything you will ever have with a woman.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Keymaster wrote:

“I shouldn’t have been so nice to her”

My own mother rang me and told me that I was too nice to my ex wife, and the old favorite I need to “MAN UP” and put my foot down, just earlier tonight.

I needed to be reminded of this :

Keymaster wrote:

THE BOTTOM LINE…. EVERY one of your qualities will be spun as a negative.

Mere common sense, that isn’t so common, I will use this when I catch up with my mother tomorrow.

By the way my father was too abusive for being masculine and apparently I need to man up for being too nice, no wonder boys and men in general are so f~~~ed up and confused, society has us trapped no matter what we do, maybe that’s why I have chosen to do nothing.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

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