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  • #10598
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    Learning
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    I have been reading the mgtow forums for over a year (from the old site)… and firstly, I just want to say Thank you to everyone here. I only found the site when googling ‘no sex from wife’. But the last two years have been such a waking up experience for me that its unbelievable.

    I obviously read ‘The Manipulated Man’ (recommended by someone on the forum) and that just did it for me and it seemed that everything in my life pretty much followed that path. Since I am introducing myself, I’ll give you guys a summary of the relevant part of my life.

    I had a long term girlfriend at university (at that point, I used to play in a band, got good grades and went mountaineering every year – and yes I enjoyed drugs too). After five years of us being together, we had a big fight and during the make-up session, she goes ‘you either commit to me and marry me or this is over’. I was 21, I was in love and we used to f~~~ and suck each other every time we were together. SO I said yes, finished university, got a job at a bank in London and got married (F~~~).

    Fast forward twelve years, I have two kids (who I obviously love beyond belief), some savings, and I have sex maybe once a month or sometimes less. Last blow job was f~~~ knows when. OK. So sex is important to me, I like to f~~~ and I like blow jobs. And if you had asked me back then if we would ever stop making out – I would have said no way. But this is the order in which things changed – She worked for a year after we got married (she has a very good college degree) , then she quit – I cant remember the reason but I’m pretty sure I would have ‘understood’. Then a year later she said lets have kids – I still remember saying yeah sure (all I was thinking was awesome – we get to f~~~ more!), three years later we have one more kid, and she says we need help to look after the kids – so I got her full time help (remember she still doesn’t work). Now, I’m sure you are thinking – what an idiot – you deserve this – maybe I do, but all those years I always just thought about making her happy and nothing else. Its only when the sex started to dry up that I thought back to these major events and realised what was happening. At that point, if any of you said anything – I would have disagreed – probably even get offended. Now I realise that I am just a worker , a worker who is supposed to provide for a woman so she can live an easy life.

    Anyway, so I’m here now, I love my kids too much to ever think of breaking the marriage (remember hostages? Esther Villar? – well yes, so she does have hostages and I’m negotiating). I now spend most of my free time away, watching movies, smoking joints and playing video games. I have completely stopped asking for sex.

    What I want to do here is warn the young guys, I want to warn myself when I was 21. Please listen to me – there is nothing wrong in having a girlfriend (have four for f~~~s sake) – but a woman’s point of view and reality if so different from yours that you have no f~~~ing idea. If she sees you doing well at college, she’ll think “that’s good, he can get a good job and my kids can go to private school and I can buy a range rover and designer handbags”. DONT do this to yourself, almost every married man I speak to (especially the ones making lots of money) get almost no sex at home – ever. It is so consistent and widespread it’s unbelievable. You can have an awesome life without being married and I can tell you that I’m your regular mangina husband, and I’m telling you – you aint missing much (in case you think you will miss out on life). Just dont do it man, please I beg you, learn from my mistakes – Dont become a worker for some chick who doesn’t give a f~~~ who you are as long as you provide.

    Thanks again guys and every day that passes – I actually feel like I’m becoming younger and turning back into the carefree crazy motherf~~~er I used to be when I was young.

    #10618
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    Solarii
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    Sounds all to familiar and there is something I would like to add, although it may make me sound lazy. I have discovered over the last two years that I am happy with my job. When I was with a woman there was always the work to make more, to have more, to be in debt more. Now I am just happy putting in my hours and realizing I make more than enough to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

    #10631
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    Learning
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    My god that is exactly how I feel now. I actually don’t need that much money to live a happy, fulfilling and pleasurable life – actually I don’t think anyone does. Most of the expensive stuff that you can spend on is to gain validation from others anyway – and I’ve been down that road too. And even though I don’t state it in front of her now, I don’t want to make any more than what I make now. It’s completely fine, cos obviously, most of the money men make is actually spent by their wives on complete f~~~ing bulls~~~ anyway.

    It is such a shame that so many men (including me) got stuck into this mindframe for so many years before they woke up. I have now started to slowly mention mgtow and the manipulated man to guys I meet on social occasions and most of them come back and say thanks later (all married guys). The one thing that frustrates me sometimes that I usually have to keep my views on this topic quiet and personal – which means when I am having dinner with friends for eg. and some of these topics come up, I just try my best to keep my mouth shut – cos i know that the general public will probably brand me as a misogynist or something similar. And I know that I’m a peaceful guy and don’t hate anyone.

    If I were single and did not have to keep up this charade, I would speak openly about it, I would never dream of having relationships and just pay for sex whenever I got horny. At least now I know where I stand. I will make sure my son grows up with the right values and never gets fooled and used like this.

    #10637
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    Solarii
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    My son is 16 and he is already doing this naturally with out any instruction. I have been asking him for the past year why he does not have a girl friend and he always said whats the point? If I want to hang out with a female I do if I don’t, then I don’t. There is no reason to let someone have control of my time. This is from my 16 year old son who has never read anything on this! I now feel like a total tool for asking why no girlfriend when I know women have done nothing but F#$K up my life, but it just goes to show how programmed we are in the presuit of a relationship.

    #10638
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    TheNinjaUWannaH8
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    America the Land of Opportunity…for Reformed Hoes/Housewives.

    Repatriate! Repatriate! Viva La MGTOW!

    #10641
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    Learning
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    Wow! that is amazing. Your boy’s brain is three times larger than mine. Well done my friend!

    I am now completely convinced beyond doubt that the traditional view of romantic relationships just doesn’t make any sense. It’s almost like cigarettes, you think you will enjoy them, but afterwards you know you would have been better off without them.

    For me (I’m 35), I am now actively saving and siphoning money in separate accounts (working with money is the only thing I’ve done well in life, so I’m confident about this) and making long term plans which involve only me, with enough saved up for my kids when they grow up. I’m not going to throw my life away just because I can’t get myself to work up to a divorce (cos of kids).

    I’ll go out and pay for whatever sex I want to have and just focus on myself, make travel plans, f~~~ exotic girls in exotic lands (paid for of course) and I’ll stay married for the sake of my kids until they go off to college – after that I will f~~~ing dissappear. It’s not ideal but all I’m doing is cutting my losses and optimising the remainder of my life.

    Again, thanks mgtow for the eye opening experience. I promise I will spread the word.

    #10685
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    Solarii
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    I have already started telling all the guys at work about this site.

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    RoyDal
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    @gametrader

    I have nothing but praise for your chosen course. None of us would be here if our parents didn’t have children, namely us. I am too cowardly to marry, let alone have kids. You are the braver of us two. Your children are lucky to have you for a father. They will grow up knowing what a loving father is and learn from your example.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #10698
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    Johnconnor777
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    Gametrader  is talking from his heart and I have heard the same stories from dozens of married men… This whole thing reminds me of Roger Sterling from mad men saying “”I’ll tell you what I told my daughter: If you put a penny in a jar every time you make love the first year of marriage, and then you take a penny out of the jar every time you make love in the second year, you know what you have? A jar full of pennies.” (S2, E5)…. and this was back in the 60s! Back when American women actually had some kind of family values and divorces weren’t as rampant as today…. I wonder what Roger would say today, on this post-feminism world

    #10741
    Learning
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    I keep saying thanks and I’ll say it again. Thanks. If a woman ever read about my chosen course of action – she would probably call me a pervert (cos of the paid sex), a loser (cos I dont want to earn even more) and not a real man (cos I dont want to keep paying for a woman). Finally, the shackles have come off (at least in my mind) and I wouldn’t even argue back, I just wont have time to even respond to her.

    On here, I get encouragement. Great site – I am now enjoying the video section! It is brilliant!

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