Templars succes partially due to MGTOW

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

Thought this was interesting.

Let the good times roll

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Link?

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[GregB0Participant]

There are two main points this could take: first is from the supporting the Church and Crusade. Protecting the pilgrims – Going Your Own Way. Second, setting up an opportunity to fleece the flocks, while killing infidels. Either way would be considered MGTOW.

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[Y_Participant 4591]

What is commonly not known is the Knights Templar were the first banksters in the olde EU. Yep the original Wall Street.

http://bigthink.com/philip-perry/did-the-knights-templar-invent-modern-banking

This time it’s not fake news 🙂

[Sky-OParticipant 18949]

[Branched offParticipant 10971]

The success of the Templars shows how when men bid together for a purpose, they become a very strong force. The original templars were very devout and dedicated and I think this intensity of focus coupled with their brotherhood made them a force to be reckoned with.

MGTOW need to understand the concept of strength in unity. We are right, if we stick together we can do some good and stop some bad happening.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[OldBillParticipant]

BlakeGuy wrote:

Thought this was interesting.

Why? And just what version of the Templars?

The monastic fighting arm of the Templars – the “proto-MGTOWs” you seem to think they were – rarely accounted for more than 10% of the entire membership. The rest were laymen managing and working in the huge amount of Templar lands, farms, and businesses across Western Europe.

The Templars’ success was actually due to a papal bull which exempted them from all local laws. That meant they didn’t have to pay taxes, duties, tolls, tariffs, or other fees. Their goods could move unhindered and their businesses could operate freely. The fact that they were the European elites’ favorite charity for a couple centuries didn’t hurt either.

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[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

here is one for the nay-sayers.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I think over time the templars have become romanticised.

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[OldBillParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I think over time the templars have become romanticised.

Very much so. Their success had much more to do with papal politics than any proto-MGTOW behavior.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Sky-OParticipant 18949]

The Templars lose any potential abstract link to MGTOW philosophy and principals once you factor in the historical evidence that raping women of those they fought being a common practice.

Pussy hounds with swords.

[TwistParticipant]

Sky-O wrote:

once you factor in the historical evidence that raping women of those they fought being a common practice.

And? Personally, I like rape.

(I just love that scene….)

sorry for the derail. Back to knights in armor.

[SwimcatParticipant 3598]

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/823654.Born_in_Blood Modern Freemasons are decended from the Knights Templers. Read this book Born in Blood by Dr. John Robinson. It gives a good scholarly explanation as to how and why.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

The Templars started around 1129.

It seems the individual full member Templars had to take 3 vows. These were similar vows to those that monks took. These Templars could be considered voluntary monks. One of poverty, no ownership of property. Chastity, voluntary celibacy. And obedience to orders from superiors.

The only similarity to the ethos of men going their own way is that of voluntary celibacy. For a man going their own way, in fact, the more you own the better, if that floats your boat. I take orders from no man. Except “the man”, when necessary.

By some accounts, women could be Templars.

he Temple Rule of 1129 AD mentioned an original pre-existing “practice” of admitting women, confirming that women were in fact admitted during the first 10 years of the Order (although stating they should not be actively recruited as a “custom”), and thus implicitly allowed women to be admitted as an exception

Women in Membership

Associate Templar members did not take these vows. These included women.

The Templar org did not take the vows and the Templars org became very rich.

The Templar org answered only to the Pope, not kings and this p~~~ed off kings.

They were shut down in 1312 by the King of France and some of the leaders burned at the stake.

https://classroom.synonym.com/what-were-the-vows-of-the-knights-templar-12083721.html

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[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

shoot the link did not work, sorry guys hopefully this time. But great article about the templars and the MGTOW policies.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-the-templar-knights-ate.

I wont use the form link system this time. A main quote is below.

Their dietary choices and obligations reflect this. Though the order grew rich from carefully handled donations and by safeguarding traveling pilgrims’ money, the men themselves took formal vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience. They were not permitted even to speak to women. For nearly 200 years, the order thrived across Europe, peaking at around 15,000 members by the end of the 13th century. Most of all, they were expert warriors, and their ranks comprised some of the best fighters, warriors, and jousters in the world

Let the good times roll

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

The famous white mantle worn by the Templars was a sign of the vow of chastity taken by the members. Married men were allowed to join the Templars with their wife’s permission, but they were forbidden from wearing the mantle.

Let the good times roll

[OldBillParticipant]

BlakeGuy wrote:

Though the order grew rich from carefully handled donations and by safeguarding traveling pilgrims’ money…

No. The order grew rich because a papal bull made them exempt from all taxes and other feudal obligations across the whole of Europe. Among other things, that status made them first choice of pilgrims and others wanting to deposit money and goods with because those deposits could then not be seized in part or whole by other authorities.

As for their vows, about 10% of those working in the Templar organizations ever took them and the fact that they were noted for raping any women who fell into their hands shows how seriously they took them. You can’t take a vow of chastity and be a rapist anymore than you can’t take a vow of poverty and work as Europe’s premier bankers for 200 years.

There is history and then there is spin, whitewashing, and romantic twaddle. As a man going your own way, it behooves you to learn the difference.

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