Tell family & friends you love them. Mean it.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Yesterday my friend killed himself. I loved him like a brother.

I’m in the unenviable position of knowing exactly how he felt & why he did it.

He took an option I almost took.

I didn’t know he was struggling nor did he know I was.

I used to say I loved him in that stupid joking guy way…. you know “I love you you ugly f~~~”

I have cried and will do so soon again. So please no condolences guys …. just understand that we must all look after people we love.

Take that extra minute to sit and seriously ask how they are …. and press the point if they seem off.

Do this instead of condolences …. then he will live on.

Rest easy my friend Stuart.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Sound advice, ILA…

Thank you for that wisdom, even after that time.

If you feel like it, someday, please share his story with us, if you wish.

Learning things from his story and from your perspective would be a great advice for many of us to act early on, to perhaps save a life that could be saved if we just acted early on.

May that his story help us to save as many lifes as we can.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Anonymous 25]

Thanks for sharing Iliveagain. You’ve always been one of my favourite posters here. If there is ever anything I can do or you ever want to chat via phone or in person or anything let KM know and ask him to email me and we can sort something out. You have a lot of wisdom and you save many lives here every day with your posts. You have played a large part in the nearly 10,000 lives saved who are members of this site. I am proud of you and many others on this site. We are turning this around and there is now hope, there is a bright future ahead for us all. We are mgtow, we are strong and we help each other. Any help needed just ask.

[RebalancedParticipant 346]

@iliveagain, ditto to what Machiavelli said about if you ever want to chat.

I don't need pussy

[Anonymous 11]

ILA, I’m very sorry for your loss.

I had a friend do the same thing. The hole never leaves.

ILiveAgain wrote:

Take that extra minute to sit and seriously ask how they are …. and press the point if they seem off.

Heed ILA’s words.

I still regret not pressing my friend further. This is my prime motivation for helping another friend in need. A real actual female friend of all the damn things who is trapped in a very abusive relations~~~. I’m not losing another friend that way without doing everything I can.

Thanks ILA for those words. I needed them. I pressed hard on her yesterday. I’m trying to get her to see a therapist and fired my first salvo.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

This is a sorrow I’ve lived with. You’ve asked for no condolences, so I’ll not press that, sir. I will say that this makes me shed a tear for you, for him and for the unfortunate familiarity of it, brother.

I will heed your words and advice, ILiveAgain. As human beings, we need to let our people know out loud that we’re here for them. Always.

Your continual, endless help, guidance and caring in this place is a foundation which many of us appreciate and value beyond what we can often express.

Thank you for sharing this difficult time with us, and may your brother Stuart find peace and rest.

[ElamshinParticipant 30]

Sorry to hear about your loss. My uncle-in-law shot himself little over 10 years ago, just after he was retired from military life. I don’t know what his reasons were, as he kept his problems hidden with a great deal of alcohol and focusing on irrelevant carousing.

He, like many others, probably didn’t have anyone to talk and to commiserate with.

[Anonymous 1]

@iliveagain

If you need anything, just ask., and I will what I can to help.

And thank you for being part of this forum, you helped me more than you can imagine. I mean that.

Take care brother.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Can I ask how he did it?

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Right you lot:

I’ve just gone and done what I always do when the ‘mental issues’ crop up in my life….

GYM …. SLOG …. PUSH … EXHAUST.

I’m ok guys and will push on with an extra angel at my side.

A lot of you have asked what you can do and what I NEED you guys to do is NOTHING.

You are already doing it …. day in day out … one post at a time. One cartoon of Dilbert, one vid of Pop, one rant, one link.

Guys killing themselves is such a vast issue and Stuart was just one of many. I wish like f~~~ he reached out but as we all know …. we are programmed to suck it up. We’re viewed as failures or man babies for wanting to breakdown.

OUR job …. each and every one of us. Young and old … each one must be on guard for our brothers …. and yes … sisters.

Reach the f~~~ out …. regardless.

I know there’s men reading and watching here … maybe right now … that are being consumed by shadows. I know those creatures, I know their endless whispers. Their song of peace and calm.

Reach out to us … or an anonymous email …. just please contact us and we will help.

As for you lot of misfits ?

I know you have my back …. as I yours. I am a product of this site. I came and luckily reached out …… ILiveAgain for many reasons … and this place is one of them.

A soldier is down but we must battle on. In honour.

Ps. Not spell checking as won’t reread. Straigh from heart stuff.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

uchibenkei wrote:

Can I ask how he did it?

Wrists

Just found out he was on anti f~~~ing depression for 5 f~~~ing years with not a word.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

that sucks. a lot of people suffering from depression and the only help is drugs to trick yourself into believing you’re happy. that s~~~ doesn’t really solve anything.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Right you lot:

I’ve just gone and done what I always do when the ‘mental issues’ crop up in my life….

GYM …. SLOG …. PUSH … EXHAUST.

I’m ok guys and will push on with an extra angel at my side.

A lot of you have asked what you can do and what I NEED you guys to do is NOTHING.

You are already doing it …. day in day out … one post at a time. One cartoon of Dilbert, one vid of Pop, one rant, one link.

Guys killing themselves is such a vast issue and Stuart was just one of many. I wish like f~~~ he reached out but as we all know …. we are programmed to suck it up. We’re viewed as failures or man babies for wanting to breakdown.

OUR job …. each and every one of us. Young and old … each one must be on guard for our brothers …. and yes … sisters.

Reach the f~~~ out …. regardless.

I know there’s men reading and watching here … maybe right now … that are being consumed by shadows. I know those creatures, I know their endless whispers. Their song of peace and calm.

Reach out to us … or an anonymous email …. just please contact us and we will help.

As for you lot of misfits

I know you have my back …. as I yours. I am a product of this site. I came and luckily reached out …… ILiveAgain for many reasons … and this place is one of them.

A soldier is down but we must battle on. In honour.

Ps. Not spell checking as won’t reread. Straigh from heart stuff.

Thank you, brother!

I cracked a smile, right after I readed your words.

Thank you for your trust, for being here, and thank your for your wisdom and words.

I will crack a bottle for you, my brother (is his birthday today), and for the late Stuart!

Requiescat in Pace, Stuart!

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Anonymous 42]

Sorry for arriving late on this thread LiveAgain, sorry to hear that, I truly am.
I can’t press the point hard enough than men MUST REWIRE THEIR THINKING! Never before in history has so much hatred and rejection been thrown at our gender! Cut off our dicks and laugh on TV, Thor’s dick! This s~~~ treatment of men has been going on so long they don’t even know why they do it??? I’ll tell you why,,,, FEMINISM’S decades long march in opposition of men! Did we start this fight??? F~~~ NO!!! But never the less we live in its TOXIC aftermath!
I came razor’s edge CLOSE to self termination after years of endless search for the fabled and TOXIC illusion that a woman is the key to happiness, only to find they filled my soul with emptiness.
I was thinking about the Mayor of MGTOWN and the way he helped men (homeless strangers) with an offering of friendship and hope, and did it (not in his own name) in the name of ”MGTOW”
Had I had this site and the outlying community on U-Tube, I never would have come so close! Not only depression had me in it’s grips, I was daring myself if I had enough b~~~~ to go through with it! Asking myself what’s on the other side???
That was then, this is now! I know our life testimonials here and throughout the MGTOW community SAVES MEN’S LIVES!
MGTOW>>>>>>Man’s best antidepressant, the acceptance of truth, self redirection, and self ownership, that saves our lives!
Men have risen to new heights while in this decades long toxic bath of feminism. It’s a true and real testament to our superiority, the XY superiority, we band together when confronted with any kind of fight!
The gender war is over, We won! We get to keep our lives!
Live on brothers! Live on!

[Mana KnightParticipant 333]

I am so sorry to hear this, I know you did not wish for condolences, but this is nevertheless sad for you, your friend, and his family.
As someone who has teetered close to doing this myself on several occasions, it hits home even more. The feeling of despair even when others offer help, sometimes you feel too lost or ashamed to take it, even if you want it.

I can only say this:
Even the darkness of nights, can eventually turn to the brightest of days.

[MKBParticipant 51]

Here is some great info on depression. It s a good watch and there is a lot you can learn. You will understand how serious it is and how you can not simply wait for it to go away. I offer this info as part of my condolences.
https://youtu.be/NOAgplgTxfc

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

My oldest friend I have in my Godforsaken home town, who has been my best friend since 2008, tried to kill himself last week but didn’t do it. Checked himself into a hospital for a few hours and is in therapy. All because a f~~~ing c~~~ of a bitch at his school felt threatened when my friend said hi to her and she turned him in for “harassment” and gossiped around the whole school about how much of a “creep” my friend is and literally destroyed his reputation and his confidence. My friend is blue pill. I think he’ll be changing his color soon enough.
He said he didn’t kill himself because I had invited him to hang with me for a “guy’s night out” 48 hours earlier, we had a hell of a fun time, and he realized the value of our friendship. He asked if we could hang out again and we did on Saturday night. I told him he’s more of a brother than a best friend, hugged him, and said, “I love you, bro.” He nearly cried on the spot and told me I’ve always been an awesome, funny guy and we made more plans to hang out again.
I saved my best friend’s life, and all with my friendship.
Sad how he was tempted to suicide and all because some f~~~ing c~~~ took his greeting the wrong way and couldn’t keep her goddamn mouth shut around campus.
Bros before ho’s…every time.

[Lone Sea VoyagerParticipant 506]

Out of all the threads I’ve ever seen, this thread brought a tear to my eye. I am very sorry for your loss. I have never personally suffered such a loss like you have, but I personally dealt with deep depression.
I know exactly what it is like to feel worthless, that I could be thrown to a wolf pack and not even care what happens afterhand.

I know exactly what it is like to try and reach out, only to be ignored, laughed in the face, and called names,

I know exactly what it is like to chock down so many anti-depressants, that I feel drugged and sleepy from the overdose.

I was infact on the verge of killing myself. I even planned how I would discretely buy ammunition for my firearm. But then one day, I did my homework and found out about the evils of feminism, and how I’m not a rare case. I found out about how men are ignored and humiliated when they show their sadness.

Then, I found out about the mgtow philosophy…

Then, I found out that women are not the pinnacle of success,

Then, I found out that I don’t have to live up to society, and how much society is failing men.

Then, I found this website.

Then, I adopted the mgtow lifestyle, and became the biggest badass ever. I was on the edge of shooting myself, but then I did my homework and found out the truth. I felt like I had been blacked-out my entire life, unaware of anything. But then I had just gained consciousness the moment I found out about the mgtow philosophy. I noticed that when I stopped giving a s~~~ about anyone anymore, my happiness climbed at levels I thought impossible. I thought that I was hopeless, but then I quit caring about society altogether and became stronger than 10 godzillas.
In a nutshell, mgtow saved my life.

As I have said, I am horribly sorry about your loss, and for him, because I can relate to what he felt. May he rest a eternal and peaceful sleep.

If it wasn’t for this awesome website, the awesome men on here, and Keymaster and his awesome team, I would have probably left the world too. Thank you, everyone of you.

[Mana KnightParticipant 333]

I can second Pirate here.
In feelings of loneliness and despair, this forum helps remind me why going the other way (backwards) would make me no more happier, I might remain alive, but my life would no longer be mine to live, it would be a wife and childs to manipulate.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

Sorry for Your loss, Bud.

Life has a sick sense of humor sometimes. It’s always best to laugh more, live more, and try something at least once. Not fun losing someone close, I’ve already lost My Mom to Brain Cancer, My Brother (who was in top shape) to a massive Heart attack, and countless other family members and close friends over the years.

Gotta cherish every moment we have.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

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