Taking back our TIME

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

My main goal in life right now is to simplify things and to cut my cost of living down as far as it can go. I work far too many hours at a job that bores the p~~~ out of me more and more each day. I wanna take at least a year off to go relax on a beach somewhere. I’m considering overseas somewhere and wondering if anyone else is entertaining the same idea?

So far I’ve been saving up and transitioning myself to Internet work. I love the idea of just renting a simple apartment somewhere like Thailand or Costa Rica, and just spending a couple of years f~~~ing off. I’m not sure if I’d wanna live overseas forever but if you spend at least 11 months outside the country you pay ZERO tax on the first $100,000 you earn. Seems to me if you don’t have to pay tax and can live fairly simple, it wouldn’t require much work to sustain that sort of lifestyle. How much could it honestly cost to chill out on a hammock all day with a gin & tonic?? I feel like I could easily manage on $50-100 a day…

I love the idea of owning as much of my precious TIME as possible. I want to wake up whenever I want, work a little and then spend the rest of the day reading, relaxing, and working on projects that interest me. I was wondering if STEALTHY MGTOW or anyone else had any suggestions for me as far as Internet freelance work goes? I have a project I’m working on but it will take some time to develop. I figure in the meantime I should look into freelance work as a backup plan while I’m in the early years. I’m looking for something that I can make $50 a day at, preferably by working only 2-3 hours max. I see all the programming work going on at freelancer.com and fiverr, so I know there is TONS of work out there.

I’m just wondering if there are some more tech-experienced MGTOW that have some deeper wisdom and experience to share…

Not my property... Not my problem

[RoyDalParticipant]

NotMyProblem wrote:

I love the idea of owning as much of my precious TIME as possible.

Hear, hear, brother!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

I like this idea,I will be following this post to hear how the guys chime in on this one.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

Hey Sovereign, I too am getting out of my country asap! It’s far too toxic to live anymore in the UK. It’s certainly not a good time to be a middle aged man in Europe at the moment.
I worked hard to be able to retire very early (blue collar career), knowing that we don’t stay fit and healthy forever I put in virtually all the overtime I could, while my fat, lazy wife was watching soap operas all night long, I was working the night shift at 3am with the rain dripping down my neck!
My job was sometimes dangerous but being a man, that’s what a ‘real man’ does doesn’t he!? That was what I was told by my ex-wife told me on more than one occasion! Cheeky bitch eh!? At the end of the marriage, when I was finished with all the crap women dish out I told her I was walking out on her, and I did but before I went she told me that I was ‘lucky’ to have had her ‘permission’ to pay a percentage of my wages into a good pension plan linked to my job!!!!
This is wimmin for you. They are entitled little bitches who give nothing of worth but believe they own your f~~~ing paypacket!!
I too will be living in a better place within a year or two, as I can live on my small pension quite happily in a cheaper country than here in Britain.
Our so called leaders are to blame for me leaving the UK, as it’s just not safe to walk outside my front door anymore, in the meantime I ghost ? and ignore everything and everyone. Not interested anymore, particularly because of the stupid EU and the immigration situation.
Between doing the full-time RV idea, maybe that small apartment in the Philippines might be an idea! I have a friend who lives there after his ex-wife took him to the cleaners. He’s having alot of fun, and when he is not f~~~ing some little Filipina doll, he spends his time doing his hobbies, lazing on the beach, and he laughs at the young women there who are all over him in the bars, because he’s a foreigner with an income for life. He tells these hookers he is wealthy, and his apartment is just one of many he owns in different countries! He never has ANY problems getting a BJ, when the need arises!
Learn all you can to make that dream happen, but if you are with a women. you can forget your dreams for good.
I laugh at the entitled, lazy slobs that western wimmin have become, they are disgusting and more than once my ex remarked that the ‘state’ are always there for her if I ever left!! She also directly told me that ‘wimmin don’t need men anymore’ – so I left after 20 f~~~ing years as her ‘moral compass’ was pointing the opposite way to mine.
Go your own way fellas and don’t make the mistake that us older men made.
Your leaders see you only as a tax payer for the welfare state that DENIES you any help when you need it, but will readily give your taxes to the poor little ‘strong, independent’ women who ‘dont need a man’, yeah right girls.
Disgusting whores.
I won’t be a working chump anymore, not for a system that f~~~ing hates me, so why should us men give a f~~~ about benefit scrounging women?
F~~~ers the lot of them, young guys work hard and think of number one, you’d be surprised at how little money you can have a decent life with, providing you are not married or co-habitating of course!

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[onmywayParticipant 502]

Interesting thread! My goal is the same as yours, only I want to live long periods on the countryside of Japan, far from the cities. I speak Japanese and love the food and culture over there. It’s more expensive than say Thailand or the Philippines, but very cheap compared to Norway, especially on the countryside / in the middle of f~~~ing nowhere. 🙂
I’m planning on living really frugally for 5-6 years, saving 60%-70% of my income during that time, and from there on take 3-4 months out of every year doing whatever I want. I, however, don’t see myself becoming a programmer, but would love to use the computer for location independent work. I’m therefore looking into other options, and would love to hear more ideas from more experienced location-independent MGTOWs out there 🙂

[Gen.OivanParticipant 88]

I have been toying with the idea of going and doing volunteer work abroad, yeah it costs to volunteer, you have to pay for the housing but I found orginizations where i can go to about 30 different countries and it costs any where from 2500 to 3500 for 6 months, it covers the cost of your training, food, room and board, plus they teach you the local languages and at the same time you get to visit the sights on the weekends, you only really work about 6 hours a day and you are actually doing something where people appreciate your help.

[OldBillParticipant]

Gen.Oivan wrote:

I have been toying with the idea of going and doing volunteer work abroad, yeah it costs to volunteer…

Do your homework and investigate the volunteer organization in question thoroughly. What you described sounds like a great deal like “volun-tourism”.

An acquaintance of mine who is a retired general contractor got roped into such a scheme by a well meaning female relative. He signed on to construct a small set of communal buildings in a Central American village. The few buildings were to be used as medical clinic, school, day & elder care, general function hall, and so forth. He and few other people with skills would be working on the project long term – about 4 months IIRC – while other volunteers helped out for a week or two.

It was the other volunteers and the “charity’ milking them for donations which turned the effort into a shambles.

My friend and the other skilled people (all men naturally) had been on-site for only a few days and living under canvas when the first busload of “volunteers” arrived: Sorority sisters and twenty-something Sex in the City types with a sprinkling of post-Wall harridans, manginas, and Marxist college filth. The entirety of the first week was lost dealing with the sleeping, cooking, and sanitary needs of a group of people whose idea of roughing it was being 30 minutes from a Starbucks.

They eventually got up enough tents and prefabs to handle the weekly influx and departure of worthless and skill-free scum who had paid thousands to the charity to come and “help”. If they were lucky, they’d get a few bricks laid and few frames lifted each week in between all the cat fights, tears, breakdowns, drinking/drug binges, snits, screaming matches, sunbathing, c~~~ hopping, and other prime examples of First World charity being so generously given to the poor oppressed people of the village.

My friend and the other skilled professionals eventually worked out a rotation in which two of them would spend the week working on the project with whichever villagers were available while the others acted as “wranglers” keeping the weekly volunteers from trying to help.

They got the buildings built, but it took far too long, cost far too much, and all so a useless bunch of assholes could pay to feel good about themselves.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Gen.OivanParticipant 88]

@oldbill, thank you for the behind the scenes look, I will definitely dig, deep before I decide, if I even do, I have always had the gift of “see thorough the bulls~~~” and I can sniff those types out in a matter of minutes, It usually gets me labeled as a negative person or some other “man up” title but it has saved my ass quite a bit and I am glad I have learned to fine tune it and see s~~~ for what it is.

To me going and volunteering is living with the locals eating their food, helping to better their life while learning of their struggles, living in the conditions they live in, whether it is a tent, hut, mud house or a cave, and then help them with their farming, building homes and helping to educate them and teach them to help survive longer in their culture.I’ll do what it takes. I have really grown tired of the american consumerist and the life that I live, being a tool maker I see first hand how the greed of consumers trickles up to the top, I have bosses yelling at me because whirlpool needs a die to punch holes in the lids for washing machines; as I stand at my grinder thinking “really, I’m stressing out and going early grey because some bimbo has to wait 30 seconds to get a washer.”

So if that means I just need to show up in a village and offer to help in exchange for some food and a chance to enrich their lives and mine as well then that’s what I will do.

[Jim DandyParticipant 10]

Hey Brother!
may I suggest you look into Belize. you may find what you need there.

[Anonymous 42]

@JimDandy, I was in Belize around 2005, beautiful spacious homes were only $40,000 U.S., the population are educated and speak 3 languages, the brothel is a few miles north on the main highway. I was considering a second home there (before the crash), I got along very fine with the natives, they like white people, we’re not the factitious enemy like in our own countries!
I would go there only if they cleaned up all of Central America’s trash, piled it up, and made a kick ass ski resort, but considering the tropical climate, the mountain of trash would have rival that of Everest! If they cleaned up all the plastic on the beaches in the gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean, I think they could do it!

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

long work hours drive men to MGTOW because they want more time and want to save $$$

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[martygParticipant 103]

I’m doing this too, only not by leaving the country. I live in the US (Dallas), I have a tolerable/stable job that allows me to support myself. That is all I really ask of life. I know how to budget, it’s amazing how much you can pare down, how little you actually need. Minimalism becomes a lifestyle that is very fulfilling. For the last couple of years, Obama ‘Care’ has added some new expenses*. It is likely I will need to down-size, cut back, reduce expenses. (Do I really need Netflix, World of Warcraft, and EVE Online?) But it’s ok, because I know how.

*Obama Care now costs me more than when I didn’t have any insurance.

[Y_Participant 4591]

May I suggest you try the Asean countries like Singapore, Malaysia. Thailand and Vietnam. I work there from time to time.
Singapore work permit is easy to get and plenty of expats. Cost is high but 100K is achievable. You can use that to jump off to other south-east asian countries. There is a slowdown in offers recently due to China’s fall in the markets but you should be good.

[solitudeParticipant 346]

NotMyProblem wrote:

I was wondering if STEALTHY MGTOW or anyone else had any suggestions for me as far as Internet freelance work goes? I have a project I’m working on but it will take some time to develop. I figure in the meantime I should look into freelance work as a backup plan while I’m in the early years. I’m looking for something that I can make $50 a day at, preferably by working only 2-3 hours max. I see all the programming work going on at freelancer.com and fiverr, so I know there is TONS of work out there.

Have done this myself for a lot of years and any decent programmer (at best I’m a marginal programmer) should be able to hit the $40-50 mark a day easily.

The key to success I’ve found is useful scripts instead of taking on week/month long projects. For example: scraping search engines/sites etc (was popular back in the day). Useful script at a low price ($5) = no bitching and complaining as opposed to the larger projects/site designs, everyone can part with $5. Simple scripts, volume and cheap was my bread and butter.

Quite a few times people would email me scripts from other people and ask me to change it to suit their needs. Even easier.

Best way to mine new ideas is from the web design, “blackhat” forums that always have people with little to no experience in coding looking for useful scripts, willing to pay those extremely low prices. Any small edits I usually ask for $5 more. A lot of times I could cobble together snippets + some of my own code and wallah, its on fivrr for $2-5 the next day. Another few areas with huge revenue streams was forum plugins/addons, wordpress/addons, email/twitter/any social media registration bots.

I mostly stuck to php but at some point down the road I’m interested in switching to useful python scripts to cater to a wider audience.

Try them all to see what works for you and your schedule. Good luck.

[Anonymous 22]

In Thailand, you can find some very cheap apartments. Right now I’m staying in Bangkok (Samut Prakan area) and the rent is 9000 baht a month! (257 USD!) New, modern building.

Then the downside is I don’t speak thai, and very few people here speak english.

Japan is also a good option.

[ManifestoParticipant 1]

Exact same position! I’m 51 years old and as the song says “I’ve made enough money to buy Miami but I’ve p~~~ed it all away”. As opposed to a set location though I’m looking at mobility on the sea and port hopping.

I’ve experienced some luck with on-line teaching as this can be done almost anywhere with wi-fi or satellite. Transition to sea life by living mobile in an RV since 2008.

Good luck with your adventure/pursuit.

[KTHParticipant 151]

Regarding Costa Rica:

If you look online, you’ll sometimes see houses for rent for as little as $350/month. The Pacific coast is warm, about 90F year round. San Jose tends to be about 70F. I haven’t been to the Atlantic coast, but I think it’s somewhere in between.

If you have average-or-better looks, the waitresses will hit on you. Otherwise, getting laid costs $50-150/hour, or $200-300 overnight. Check out the Cocal in Jaco and the Del Rey in San Jose, but also look at escort ads. (If you PM me, I can send you pics of what you can get for $100.)

I like lithe Northern European women better in strictly physical terms, but the attitudes of Ticas (Costa Rican women) are so much better than what you’ll find in the US or Canada that CR wins hands down.

I can’t tell you much about Belize. I’ve looked at Panama but haven’t visited yet. It seems upscale relative to CR, but otherwise comparable.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Taking back my time and money the c~~~s purposely wasted because they thought it was cute.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

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