Taking a Bad Deal Doesn't Mean You Have B~~~~ – It Means You're a F~~~ing Idiot

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Totally agree, and I’d go even further: you distinguish between bravery and stupidity, but maybe the whole concept of “bravery” itself is just an idea to manipulate men to do stupid s~~~ that benefits women. How many men have died meaningless deaths fighting wars in distant countries, just to keep the oil price low enough just so that soccer moms can fill up their cars with cheap gas back home? How many men have gone to early graves from working their asses off in dangerous jobs just to “provide” for their cupcakes?

Women figured out long ago that one of the best ways to manipulate men is to pull the “bravery”/”have some b~~~~” card.

F~~~ that. F~~~ “bravery”. Go fight your own wars, I’m outta here.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

For thousands of years, marriage worked like this: A father would look for a man that he felt was qualified for taking care of his daughter for the rest of her life, or until the man died. When he came to an agreement with a man, the father would pay a dowry as a financial kickstarter for their marriage. From then on, the man was responsible for taking care of the woman until one of them was dead. Whether the two of them loved each other was completely irrelevant. Divorce was illegal, in order to prevent the man from going back on his end of the deal and trading his wife in for a newer and better looking model down the road. That’s how marriage was for thousands of years. It was a business transaction and nothing more. It’s still a business transaction today, except the deal is that divorce is legal and the woman gets to take everything at the man’s expense, and even put him in financial slavery for future decades in the form of child support and alimony payments to her, and Big Daddy Government will be right there with that big billy club to beat him over the head and make sure he’s paying.

Sky-O wrote:

When you go to a circus, you will see lions and tigers obeying their trainers and performing tricks. Noble and powerful animals that are being controlled and have been conditioned to perform tricks.

But, you will never see a wolf that would allow his sovereignty and life to be surrendered in such manner.

The Sky-0 is not a lion or a tiger.

I’m a wolf. And I cannot be trained or conditioned.

I can’t login to mgtow.com to 1+ these at night when I’m reading them. I’m here today to say thanks for this thread. I hope when Im in my 40’s, or however old y’all guys are, that I’m like you. I enjoyed reading the comments here, laughing and also being wowed by the maturity and wisdom. Again, this thread needs to be stickied or Top Gunned.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

LionOnTheLoose wrote:

How many men have died meaningless deaths fighting wars in distant countries,

I “get” the intent of your post, that men waste their time and money on women. However, what is all that s~~~ about war? WAR means death or invasion, period. If brave men from the North hadn’t “DIED FOR NOTHING” you’d probably be living on a cotton plantation, am I wrong? If brave men hadn’t of “died for nothing” on Iwo Jima and on French beaches….YOU’D BE AT THE BOTTOM OF A MASS GRAVE BITCH, or at the very least, you’d be speaking German as a slave for the Reich. If brave men didn’t VOLUNTEER, seeking honor, courage and commitment among brothers, (because your coward ass won’t do it)… if it wasn’t for them, we’d draft your ass to Afghanistan.

All you damn cowards, YOUR WELCOME, now quit downplaying the courage and service of MEN who f~~~ing DIED, preserving YOUR LIFE. Have you served? Have you filled sandbags and slept in trash piles, fighting to keep liberty relevant in this world?

You wan’t to bitch about politics or government, take it to the f~~~ing Political Corner (notice how it’s at the bottom of the page next to the Litter Box). No one gives a s~~~ that you hate the US Governement and are too much of a bitch to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Enjoy living FREE, off the blood spilled everyday to keep us free. It cost someone there f~~~ing LIFE! NO S~~~, show some god damn reverence!

You sound like a bitch ass hippie from the 70’s or some girl living the cushy 21st century life while MEN die to protect REAL FREEDOMS. If we do not “FIGHT THOSE USELESS WARS” the war will come HERE. They will have you convert you to Islam or you will have your head hacked off. You think its a far away place, LOL, they will murder you on the spot!

SORRY, I have friends who got shot in Iraq, some never came back and left orphans behind! f~~~, man! You know little about sovereignty or brotherhood. All you think about is yourself and your greed and leisure.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Sorry Mr. Lion on the Loose… You’re not the first to get an ear full for saying s~~~ like that. There are others like you, here at MGTOW who will catch s~~~ from Veterans when they say s~~~ like that.

Says in your description: Professional musician. Monk since 1 Jan 2017. Grateful for my freedom.

Grateful eh? Musician? hmmmm

I’ll say this, do you even remember 911? Remember the yellow ribbon bumper stickers and American Flag pins on T-shirts? For 3 years, we had unwavering UNITY regardless of race, sex or creed. America was America from 2001-2005….. It aint much like that anymore.

Dont even respond, if you have something to say, take it to the Political Litter Box

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Sorry Mr. Lion on the Loose… You’re not the first to get an ear full for saying s~~~ like that.

No need to apologise. You’re right: I admit I’m a coward and I know I don’t have anywhere near the strength of character or discipline to serve in the military. Despite what I wrote, I do have a lot of respect for veterans because I know you guys have done things I could never do.

What I was trying to say was that I think there’s a danger that we men want to be “saviours”, not just when it comes to women (the “white knight” problem), but more generally too, i.e. we want to save things. And I think trying to be a saviour isn’t always good for men. But you might well say that you’d rather get killed doing the right thing than live being a pussy. Fair enough.

As you mention, there’s a bit of split on here between MGTOWs who still believe in certain values like courage, honour, duty etc. and those who look at how f~~~ed the world is and just think “let it burn while I look after my own ass”. I’m more in the second group but I see where you and the others are coming from.

For info, I’m not a libtard hippie and I find it hugely depressing to see how Western civilisation is probably f~~~ed here in Europe, at least. Maybe with people such as yourself in the USA, Western civilisation will survive for longer there.

I am sorry about your friends.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

LionOnTheLoose wrote:

I do have a lot of respect for veterans

I know you do bro. Im actually more sorry, I waited too long to edit that. I always get all pee pee hearted on that topic. Sorry man.

Not every war is essential. Sometimes, petty foregin policy manuevers and commerce get good men killed. Its a sick game (sometimes). I hear you. Have a good day. Sorry I s~~~ down your back. You took it in good stride, which is more than I can say for how I react to people. Youre a better man than me dude. Peace

[Gravel PitParticipant]

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Gravel Pit wrote:

LionOnTheLoose wrote:

I do have a lot of respect for veterans

I know you do bro. Im actually more sorry, I waited too long to edit that. I always get all pee pee hearted on that topic. Sorry man.
Not every war is essential. Sometimes, petty foregin policy manuevers and commerce get good men killed. Its a sick game (sometimes). I hear you. Have a good day. Sorry I s~~~ down your back. You took it in good stride, which is more than I can say for how I react to people. Youre a better man than me dude. Peace

That’s big of you man and honestly no worries, you’ve seen and done things I can’t begin to imagine so you have every reason to get mad. I really do hope that the sacrifices men make aren’t in vain. Have a good day too bro.

For anyone else following this thread, can I just say this exchange with Gravel Pit shows why I love this website so much: sure we have some strongly-held views here and sparks might fly, but generally we find a way to be civilised. The internet is so full of hysterical shouting-matches nowadays, and sometimes it feels like MGTOW.com is the only sane place left.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Every single argument trying to promote marriage to men is based on the false assumption that women are worth marrying.

They’re not.

Point that out and their entire position collapses.

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