Symbols of the Culture War

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

The right has been going about this fight against the collectivists all wrong. Carrying torches and demanding free speech… it’s simply the wrong tactic. The left doesn’t care about free speech or the constitution. What they want is free s~~~ (your s~~~)… but after that, they value identity over everything and they use pop culture imagery to create and perpetuate their identities.

So here’s my idea. You want to f~~~ up the left, stop marching and talking and arguing with them and disrupt them by appropriating their culture. Adopt the looks, icons and images beloved by the left, you take away their ability to self-represent which is the core of their identity, and leave them with no ground to stand on.

So all you righties who want to go out and make your presense felt in the world… forget the torches, the Pepe memes, the Kekistan flags, the “nazi haircuts”… all the stuff the left uses to paint you as fascists. Instead, dye your hair, get nerd glasses, put on stormtrooper t-shirts and wear IDIC necklaces. Then organize your marches and shout “Down with Communism, Down with Socialism, Down with Imperialism… we want freedom, peace, love, autonomy and the right to take responsibility for our own actions!” Or whatever… some s~~~ nobody could argue with.

This is not a political battle… this is a culture war. So long as the left has the ability to define you, they have the upper hand. Take that hand away from them by taking control of their symbols and making them your own. Engage Antifa with your own black block. put your own red haired women in the streets to scream about equality.

You can’t simply out smart and out logic these people because they don’t give a s~~~ about intelligence and logic. You’ve got to beat them on their own ground and take it out from under them so that they have no way to organize any more.

Just a thought.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Stargazer wrote:

appropriating their culture.

That’s a great idea but a statue of Marx/Lenin/Obama in my backyard just won’t work for me.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Stargazer wrote:

This is not a political battle… this is a culture war.

I agree. However I believe that this new s~~~ that we are seeing is blow back from the freedom that the internet offers. YouTube channels are being demonetized, Google has an agenda, content producers are changing venues.

People aren’t just speaking their minds. They are speaking to inequality and injustice (hate that word now) with a rational, evidence based, and peer reviewed approach. If this continues, a culture war will be lossed by those that seek to have whatever the hell they want at the expense of those that have gainful employment.

By my mind, Antifa, and other f~~~tarded organizations like it, is fighting against free speech because they know that, on an ideological level, they will loose if they can’t shut everyone else the hell up.

Edit.

In so far as co opting the way they do things and the way they walk, talk, dress, etc. Not a bad idea. The only issue that I personally have is that I would have to summon the ability to care enough to try to change things.

The ship is at full steam and the rudder can only move 3 degrees in either direction. It’s going to run aground and there is nothing that can change that.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 42]

Stargazer wrote:

You’ve got to beat them on their own ground and take it out from under them so that they have no way to organize any more.

Just a thought.

Isn’t it just easier to shoot them? I would!

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

By my mind, Antifa, and other f~~~tarded organizations like it, is fighting against free speech because they know that, on an ideological level, they will loose if they can’t shut everyone else the hell up.

I agree completely. But this isn’t a battle that can be won by fighting toe to toe. They don’t fight fairly and they’re never going to. Those who stand for the free and fair exchange of ideas and for letting ideologies play themselves out to see which one works best are going to be smashed down… doxxed, disemployed, divorce raped, falsely accused of actual crimes, excommunicated from their social groups… divided, demonized and run underground.

Why go through all that when you can just go underground from the start? The forces of logic, reason and responsibility are standing in an open field like the British redcoats, looking for an honest fight while the real fascist collectivists are fighting a guerrila war from the cover of rocks and trees, taking pot shots and running for cover. They’re wrong and they know it, but they’ve got superior fighting technique and they’re using it.

We of all people should know by now that you can not beat a feminist or SJW with facts and logic. You’ve got to use their stupid culture and identity against them. Get them to turn on each other. Steal their symbols and identities from them, divide them give them no ground to stand on.

THEN we can have facts, reason, logic and responsibility.

Or stand your ground and get destroyed and let them have it. I’m not talking to the people who are happy to see the world burn, I’m talking to the people who are out there fighting and telling them “You’re doing it all wrong, folks.”

[ghostParticipant]

Doc makes a good point. I still prefer the approach outlined by MGTower.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Stargazer wrote:

This is not a political battle… this is a culture war. So long as the left has the ability to define you, they have the upper hand.

Who exactly do they have the upper hand with though…just other retarded lefties. They can call everyone a racist that isn’t a liberal and all that does for anyone with a brain is p~~~ them off…if anything they’re hurting their own cause because how much can you bash on whitey before the less extreme members of your own party get sick of it.

[Anonymous 12]

The people who protest for “The Left” don’t understand that they are just being used as tools. The idea is to keep society in a flux. What they are fighting for now, in a few years time will be changed completely.

The ideas are meant to fail and are meant to cause more and more division. And when people are divided enough one united group will roll right over them all.

We are already seeing divisions among the different Left wing factions.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Brilliant conclusion to the Charlottesville event. The sad part about it is only a limited number of eyes will get to read. I would guess not even half of the forum will view.
Personally I think the event will be staged over and over again. The liberal media really got everything it wanted.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Anonymous 8]

Doc, while your approach is novel, I will not be co-opting their symbols. I take my personal hygiene seriously, that alone would give me away.

Their language however, I have no problem using, they are experts at deflecting accountability, blame and responsibility. Being that I didn’t make this mess, I’m not jumping at the opportunity to clean it up.

At the end of the day though, I prefer the empty chair approach. That way they will just turn on one another and I can go bowling instead.

On my way, I’ll read about Asymmetrical Warfare, just in case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Beer wrote:

Who exactly do they have the upper hand with though…just other retarded lefties. They can call everyone a racist that isn’t a liberal and all that does for anyone with a brain is p~~~ them off…if anything they’re hurting their own cause because how much can you bash on whitey before the less extreme members of your own party get sick of it.

They have the upper hand against anyone who would attempt to argue with them from the basis of logic, reason and facts, which was my original point, and soon it will be anyone with white skin, short hair and a good job.

Good luck with the empty chair method. Maybe pass that idea along to all those idiots with the torches who are just making things worse.

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