Survival vs. Breeding Instincts

[Modern Day WarriorParticipant 499]

Males are driven by two primary instincts; survival and breeding. Both of these are very strong, primal instincts that ensure not only our survival but the survival of the species. We are genetically programmed to f~~~ females so that hopefully our genetics are carried on.

We are also programmed to survive as individuals. If you look back to those days when we were hunter-gatherers, most of our time was devoted to those two things. If somebody threatened our lives or resources we killed them. If animals attacked us we killed them. This was the way things were for an extraordinarily long time. All of the modern s~~~ that we take for granted is a relatively recent development. Feminism is also a recent development. But that doesn’t change the fact that our base instincts remain quite strong.

So what we end up with is, on the one hand we have the primal urge to procreate. Yet, we also have a desire to look after our own well-being. And while being married or cohabitating might not actually threaten our survival, it does in many cases threaten our well-being. (OK, survival too, if she’s really a psycho.)

Females are also driven by instincts, the primary one being to find a mate that will ensure her survival and the survival of her offspring. In other words, she wants a male with resources. That used to mean a guy that could hunt and fight and provide shelter. These days it means a guy with money. Preferably lots of it.

MGTOW is at least partly a result of females exploiting male resources to unacceptable levels where it is simply not in the male’s best interest to participate. We were never intended to expend ALL of our efforts to gain access to a female. If a woman had a mate and he provided her with food, shelter and protection, then that was enough. If she didn’t like it she could get the f~~~ out of the cave and see how she does on her own.

But now, the list of demands is never ending, and the male can never work hard enough or do enough to keep a woman happy. So maybe we go our own way. That’s great, and it improves our survival situation, but we still have that other pesky instinct telling us to go find a vagina.

I think the tipping point for a lot of men is when they get to a place where their survival, or resources become more important than said vagina. It’s really just a question of how much are you willing to sacrifice for sex? And you do not have to sacrifice decades of your life because you hooked up with a hot chick and think you’re going to get to f~~~ her every day for the rest of your life. It doesn’t work that way. Once she has your resources locked in, that sex will become increasingly infrequent. Just have sex with her until she starts talking about commitment, then bail. Besides, show me a beautiful woman and I’ll show you a guy who’s tired of f~~~ing her.

Pump and dump. Catch and release. Protect your resources. MGTOW guys who do so are probably having more sex than the guy that’s been married for 10 years. Remember your survival instincts the next time you’re thinking “I have to f~~~ her no matter what!” Think it through. Live free.

"One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact." - Neil Peart

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Since I have a vasectomy my sistem must have purgued out the breeding instinct a little bit.

And my survival instinct tell me to run away from women couse most of them are total psychopath.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 3]

My survival instinct tells me to ignore my breeding instinct and look at porn instead.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Males are

“Men” are . . .

I know it’s a tiny detail, but when I hear someone talk about “males”, my ear holes slam shut.

. . . and for a very good reason . . .

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Males are driven by two primary instincts; survival and breeding. Both of these are very strong, primal instincts that ensure not only our survival but the survival of the species. We are genetically programmed to f~~~ females so that hopefully our genetics are carried on.

So in this case, you’re correct to say “males”.
But that’s only true for male animals.

Survival and breeding are the pinnacle of success for male animals in the wild. That’s the best they are ever going to do. But it’s not the pinnacle of success for human MEN. More than 60% of all “men” who ever lived on the planet never had children.

Look at Tesla for example.
He knew there was more to life than squirting in a female.
It’s not even difficult to do. So he aimed higher in life.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

What we end up with is, on the one hand we have the primal urge to procreate

No. You have a primary urge to ejaculate – a base biological need like you need to take a p~~~. You don’t understand why, but nature doesn’t require males to understand. MEN are the only “males” on the planet who know that ejaculating in a female can lead to a pregnancy – in advance. Any understanding animals males have of this is purely hardwiring. A salmon has no idea why it swims upstream in the greatest fight of its’ life just to spawn.

A Lion has no understanding that his cubs are the result of that event which happened under a tree those many months ago. He may even be long gone without ever knowing – just like you. Even human men can have no idea if they fathered any kids . . . . because it’s still legal in this country for a woman to allow herself to get pregnant without a man’s consent.

Women are the only females on the planet who understand this too. And they plot and negotiate accordingly. They deliberately trick men into fatherhood without his knowledge or consent. – in advance – with intent to exploit.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Females are also driven by instincts

Human women are more driven by GREED and selfishness unlike all other females of other species on the planet. They use their children as leverage against the male too – without his knowledge or consent.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Remember your survival instincts the next time you’re thinking “I have to f~~~ her no matter what!” Think it through. Live free.

You’re right on all of it of course, but there is a difference between the driving force and survival instincts of “males” and “MEN”. All other species are SOLELY focussed and programmed toward their existence, survival and breeding.

But a man without kids may enjoy more risky behaviors not conducive to his own survival. Perhaps he own’s a motorcycle. Or he enjoys jumping out of planes. Or he wants to risk his life to break the sound barrier for all humanity. Or he builds himself an armada of ships to cross the world’s most tempestuous oceans to find out for himself that the world is, indeed, round. Maybe he wants to be in the Guinness book of world records for beating a record set by other men before him.

Men often think of much greater things that are bigger and more important than themselves, and often at great risk to themselves. And in comparison, squirting in a female is hardly an accomplishment.

It certainly puts “getting laid” in its proper perspective.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 5]

Keymaster wrote:

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Males are

“Men” are . . .

I know it’s a tiny detail, but when I hear someone talk about “males”, my ear holes slam shut.

. . . and for a very good reason . . .

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Males are driven by two primary instincts; survival and breeding. Both of these are very strong, primal instincts that ensure not only our survival but the survival of the species. We are genetically programmed to f~~~ females so that hopefully our genetics are carried on.

So in this case, you’re correct to say “males”.
But that’s only true for male animals.

Survival and breeding are the pinnacle of success for male animals in the wild. That’s the best they are ever going to do. But it’s not the pinnacle of success for human MEN. More than 60% of all “men” who ever lived on the planet never had children.

Look at Tesla for example.
He knew there was more to life than squirting in a female.
It’s not even difficult to do. So he aimed higher in life.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

What we end up with is, on the one hand we have the primal urge to procreate

No. You have a primary urge to ejaculate – a base biological need like you need to take a p~~~. You don’t understand why, but nature doesn’t require males to understand. MEN are the only “males” on the planet who know that ejaculating in a female can lead to a pregnancy – in advance. Any understanding animals males have of this is purely hardwiring. A salmon has no idea why it swims upstream in the greatest fight of its’ life just to spawn.

A Lion has no understanding that his cubs are the result of that event which happened under a tree those many months ago. He may even be long gone without ever knowing – just like you. Even human men can have no idea if they fathered any kids . . . . because it’s still legal in this country for a woman to allow herself to get pregnant without a man’s consent.

Women are the only females on the planet who understand this too. And they plot and negotiate accordingly. They deliberately trick men into fatherhood without his knowledge or consent. – in advance – with intent to exploit.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Females are also driven by instincts

Human women are more driven by GREED and selfishness unlike all other females of other species on the planet. They use their children as leverage against the male too – without his knowledge or consent.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Remember your survival instincts the next time you’re thinking “I have to f~~~ her no matter what!” Think it through. Live free.

You’re right on all of it of course, but there is a difference between the driving force and survival instincts of “males” and “MEN”. All other species are SOLELY focussed and programmed toward their existence, survival and breeding.

But a man without kids may enjoy more risky behaviors not conducive to his own survival. Perhaps he own’s a motorcycle. Or he enjoys jumping out of planes. Or he wants to risk his life to break the sound barrier for all humanity. Or he builds himself an armada of ships to cross the world’s most tempestuous oceans to find out for himself that the world is, indeed, round. Maybe he wants to be in the Guinness book of world records for beating a record set by other men before him.

Men often think of much greater things that are bigger and more important than themselves, and often at great risk to themselves. And in comparison, squirting in a female is hardly an accomplishment.

It certainly puts “getting laid” in its proper perspective.

KM, your wisdom is beyond my own understanding!

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