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[No 6 The Prisoner EscapesParticipant 41]

Hi Brothers, through no fault of my own I find myself in a catch-22 situation on this site.
My situation is probably not unique, but it does put me at a disadvantage on this site, because I am unlikely to get noticed or gather support, interest, and respect because I’m not free yet.
My situation is that I’m the middle of doing up houses and then selling all my stuff etc so when I tell the Mrs That I’m going my own way I won’t have a worse s~~~ storm. One need to prepare for the storm coming and to try and have the leaving speech and arguments down pat because if one is not strong enough they can pull you back into the plantation.
I need info, encouragement and support from my brothers on here while I live in a living hell while I prepare my plan to escape.
Not only am I leaving her, but the country to go back to the UK and to top it off I don’t have a job at the mo.

I can see that some of you here would be thinking why should we listen to anybody that is only planning and not become a “Goneburger” yet?
All you guys have been there, and we all knows its not an easy thing to do, and unlike females that have support networks all over the place, it would be good to get some here.
It would help me plan and help grit my teeth and try not to go crazy while I do it.

Love the MGTOW movement, but it a lot to take in.

My personal view is the Plantation is the “Village” and the type of control that the Village held over No 6 in the classic TV series in like the kind of Prison we find ourselves in with females with no Escape. But we know that’s not true, you can escape, but you have to escape from yourself first. Because you can be your own worst enemy in a relationship.

“Be seeing you”

[JasonParticipant 282]

You can’t measure Going Your Own Way in terms of what you have already accomplished, but in terms of what you strive to accomplish – in other words, that you have yet to go “Goneburger” doesn’t matter in the least; your intention does.

So yeah, I have no problem with offering encouragement and such. Whaddya need/want to know?

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Don’t know where you got this s~~~ from?

WE NEVER TURN MEN AWAY

NEVER NEVER NEVER.

Show me where we said that?

NOW … after that ass kicking … WELCOME ?

We are here … we’re listening.

You are EXACTLY why we are here.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hello No.6 and welcome to the forums. Glad your received our message that you were made a participant, and as @iliveagain said already, guys in your kind of situation are why we exist.

No 6 The Prisoner Escapes wrote:

One need to prepare for the storm coming and to try and have the leaving speech and arguments down pat because if one is not strong enough they can pull you back into the plantation.

This is tricky and I know exactly of what you speak.

Don’t let there be an argument. If you have made up you’re mind and you’re rock solid on it, it’s not open for discussion. Do not let her sucker you into her frame.

Two days ago, I was invited for dinner with a friend and his girlfriend. It was a real test of framing, and as MGTOW as I am (with red pill vision every time a woman opens her mouth) , I was actually quite shocked how clever she was. She wasn’t even aware of it.

She would talk and then say “you know?” …. then I would start a response… and she would not be listening but merely thinking of the next thing she was going say. I got 3 words in and she talked over me. Again, and again and again. I said “Ok stop. Why don’t you just talk to a wall if you want a conversation and only chose to listen to yourself”. She was completely shocked and totally unaware that she was doing it. I would HATE to be her boyfriend.

He noticed and acknowledged it too, and said she does it all the time.
It’s like being in a “relationship” all by herself.

Look for it.

You’re always going to be refining yourself and making improvements. But there comes a time, when you will eventually stick to YOUR frame and NOBODY can pull you out of it. Not even the most clever deflection will get by you.

Consider applying some “amused mastery”. If you’re really sure about it, you may find any attempt she makes to reconcile amusing and “cute” because you know what she’s up to. MANY times, women just hate to lose. They will do or say anything to keep you around, but not because they want you around, but because they can’t stand to see a man walk away from them.

Sometimes there are attacks on your manhood and other cheap shots that are totally irrelevant to the point, but stick to your frame and you’ll do just fine.

It’s OK to make up your mind that it’s just not open for discussion.

It’s easier than you think.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[HitmanParticipant]

Need support? You got it! Welcome brother, make your exit strategy and stick to it. Army surplus duffel bags are really good for putting your belongings in..Some canned food you will actually eat and some credit cards will get you a long way! ..I like cash. No trail..

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Welcome to the club!

ILiveAgain wrote:

WE NEVER TURN MEN AWAY

NEVER NEVER NEVER.

Unless they’re the biggest cucks on the planet.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

S~~~, dude. What exactly do you need help with? Advice? Specifics, man. I need specifics.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[RoyDalParticipant]

ILiveAgain wrote:

WE NEVER TURN MEN AWAY

NEVER NEVER NEVER.

Yes.

Silverstone the Second wrote:

S~~~, dude. What exactly do you need help with? Advice? Specifics, man. I need specifics.

Yes, again.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[No 6 The Prisoner EscapesParticipant 41]

Ok, I can’t figure out how to reply to each individual here, so somebody shall have to tell me on that one. Anyway thanks for the Comments!!!
First up I was perhaps assuming I might get some flack for not having left the nest yet, as you know being with a female kind of fries your brain, after we while we start to pick up s~~~ and lose our male brains. ANyway I’m glad I was wrong there and thanks for the slap in the face on that one LOL
I shall check out any links that anybody sends me
1/What I’m needing as far as support goes is anything good to read, watch clips and personal advice on how to keep the secret and how to put up with all the s~~~ while I do.
2/ If anybody has done what I’m going to do and live life on the edge by living in a car, finding other ways to make a living and spreading the word while I do all this, I could use all the help I can get there.
3/ Some good lines and exit ideas: I had one this morning, it goes like this
“Sit down and listen, its Over, I’m leaving you, I made you a black box on audio and in written form on why you crashed and burned, one day you might understand. Nothing you can say will change my mind, because talking about it died along time ago. You’ve just been MGTOWED”
4/ I have some stories to tell that I need to get off my chest as part of the venting. MGTOWS will understand and likewise have stories of their own. Somebody listening and understanding helps the process because I need to be like a Jedi (Ben Kenobi)
During the duel between Darth Vader in E IV he says “if you cut me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine” in order not to waiver and be drawn back into the plantation I need to gain strength through my brothers and be firm in my direction and shed those tears and put the past behind me so I don’t get affected when she first vents her anger and then puts on the water works.

Woman need to understand, I don’t see men hating woman, we just hate their dark side, they are Sith Lords compared to our Jedi Knights, you can switch them back if they get what it is to be a female and suppress their dark side and what it is to be man. But this won’t happen for a few generations. A fight worth fighting for, because the Men’s movement will get it right, because unlike Woman, we do actually care what happens to humanity.

I have been listening to Pink FLoyds Coming Back to Life from the Division Bell LP and it sums up things for me. We were broken and lost as men, and we killed the past and headed “straight into the shining sun” Great Song should be our ANTHEM man!!!

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Good exit sstrategy is to just say,

“Yeah, sorry, it’s not working out, Bye bye”

Sounds childish, I know, but it will leave her mind spinning. No answer, just that it’s not working out. You don’t owe her an explanation, you don’t owe her s~~~. Better yet, just ghost, and leave without saying anything. It’s all up to you man, depending on the situation, I could do a lot of stuff.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

No 6 The Prisoner Escapes wrote:

“Sit down and listen, its Over, I’m leaving you, I made you a black box on audio and in written form on why you crashed and burned, one day you might understand. Nothing you can say will change my mind, because talking about it died along time ago. You’ve just been MGTOWED”

Too wordy.

Silverstone the Second wrote:

“Yeah, sorry, it’s not working out, Bye bye”

Lose the sorry, the yeah, and the it’s not working out. Just Bye Bye. The last time I had a conversation like this I just told her I didn’t like being around her any more and she is joyless.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

This guy here is homeless. He does a small trailer/motor home where he sleeps in and also has a truck. He has a lot of decent advice. I guess you can start with food storage.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[JasonParticipant 282]

Yeah, like Silverstone said, you don’t owe her an explanation, if she’s treated you like crap. Now, if you leave a relationship solely for your own reasons that have nothing to do with her behavior, then yeah, you might give an explanation out of courtesy. But when she’s treated you like crap for an extended amount of time? Yeah, you don’t owe her a thing. Just say, “Bye-bye, I won’t come back, good luck with your life. Chao.”

I also intended to give some advice on the whole living in a car thing, but Canuck’s video does it better.

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[No 6 The Prisoner EscapesParticipant 41]

All these points that you guys make are valid, but having been there before and being the one that gets dumped, much like how you guys suggest, it opens for a messy breakup. When you have assets and money in the bank etc, you have to be able to communicate enough not to have to do it all through the lawyers. It would satisfying p~~~ing her off to such a degree that it would cut to the bone, but I would open myself up to more post s~~~

But with MGTOW is a way of life, and woman at this moment in history cannot provide the things we need other than sex, and even then sometimes not even that is worthwhile.

I always told her that I was the most important thing, NO 1, as everything stems from the self, and if one is not OK then you can’t give anything back. As my first wife admitted “I’m going to start living life for me” I have to admire her for that, and it is ironic that I find myself in same situation some 20 years later.

“Be seeing you”

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Hey brother, from your description you’re definitely making the right call.

I dropped the divorce bomb on my ex and she had no idea it was coming. She begged, pleaded, threatened, etc etc. One thing yours may try to do is bargain: “Wait wait wait! Why are you doing this? I can change! Just give me one month! You can see i’ll be different!” etc etc. You’re not having a discussion with her. You’re just informing her of your decision. And that decision will not change, because it’s 100% the right one for you.

I also think shorter is better: “I am going to have a better life without you. It’s over.” At least, that’s what i would say.

Also – you mentioned assets in the bank. Have you spoken to an attorney about this? Getting some real, practical advice on what to do/don’t do, will be worth its weight in gold.

Good luck brother & definitely keep us updated. Remember – the discomfort you feel is just your body & mind getting used to life without chains.

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