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The shaming NEVER ends.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/living-solo-in-sydney-successful-women-and-lonely-men-20150405-1mc5no.html
What really annoys me is this, this mainstream thinking that having a degree equals success and large incomes. Ridiculous!
Anyway i digress, but I will mention this – I have dated some of these women and I can confirm first hand that they are some of THE most demanding, gold digging and scheming women you will ever meet.
http://www.encouragementfromastranger.com/2010/proof-that-you-dont-need-a-university-degree/
Let me tell you a short story…
Once upon a time there was this geek, on his way to getting a masters in a field that pays quite well…
While this geek was pursuing said degree, he met a small woman with giant breasts who was married.
Married woman was not with her husband at the moment as her husband was working…
This woman proceeded to introductions and then into interrogation about similarities between our degrees and thirst for knowledge. (She was thirsty alright).
Flash forward a few weeks, her husband shows up to the shop where we met (just a nerd hobby shop, she is apparently stalking future prey). The plain is made plain, her husband is the manager at a dominos…. she is working on her PhD. Well, love and the bond of matrimony will keep them together right? Because feminism.
Wrong, she continues to ask me, “are you accepted to the master’s program yet?” — “are you in the masters program?” — “How long until you apply for masters?” Not in front of her husband mind you, but it became obvious to myself and my buddies that this bitch was quite ready to dump her husband for a man that makes similar pay to her. Her husbands crime? Being content with his job and place in life while she pursues school and incurs debt.
This trick is so obviously looking to upgrade its a bit disgusting (although dem titties). She doesn’t ask me about my hobbies, likes, dislikes, ideas of life, nope… just hows school going? how much longer? etc. I even gave her husband a nice item from the hobby shop before I met the dude because I already felt sorry for him.
Point is, just because a high income earning wife can support the family doesn’t mean she will, she will continue to pursue her equal or greater until she is satisfied she can build the biggest f~~~ing nest of comfort and financial security. Love? yes I’m sure she loves him, she’d love to let him go, marriage doesn’t mean too much to this broad.
Anyway, that’s all. The story continues later I’m sure.
Anonymous42“Men who live alone are also far less likely to want to continue living solo.”
Ha Ha HA HA, what a crock of s~~~! I love being alone, wouldn’t have it any other way! It’s just more feminist propaganda to help them feel better about their endless loneliness. Men live much fuller lives alone than women.
“Successful women” hate their job, and not very happy, waiting for a guy to rescue them. I dated a successful woman, or she thought she was, she botched about her job all the time only time she said I like my job, is when I said are you planning to move up.
Point is, Career women don’t like being career women, because it involves hard work.
I never met a happy so called “successful woman.” EVER!
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
@exsliventxs, you made some good points.
Australia is quite different I guess compared to the USA where say said Domino’s manager here would actually be on $80+K a year and the PhD student lucky to make $60K. I dated a single mum doing a bulls~~~ PhD in Early Childhood, she thought it was equivalent to Medicine and Applied Math, it was a total joke and I use to proof read her work and I don’t even have a degree. I went to University, started Law and Economics, but left around the 4 year mark as all I saw was a $80K university bill, lucky to get a $60K a year job and part of the dreaded rat race.
Tradesmen however here in Australia make a bomb of cash, they quite easily pass $150K a year if they run their own business, $80+K working for someone else, and I know a few who live in multi-million dollar homes and drive Porsches, Maserati’s etc on the weekend. With corporate jobs being replaced with algorithms and technology I still stand firm by my opinion that the trades will always make a killing!
What did I do with myself instead? I took my keen interest in The Markets and Trading and sought mentoring from a guy who is an ex Wall Street banker now hedge fund manager. I actually got on a plane flew across the world, tracked him down and asked him to mentor me, he did! I took what money I had and have successfully traded since January last year. #WINNING
Would I go back to University? Maybe when I am old and keen on reading up on History etc as a hobby but what i have learnt and continue to learn from this guy and his network I could never learn in an economics degree. EVER!
@MG-Tower, you are totally correct. I have a female friend who is similar to these women. SHe is extremely wealthy, successful, 44 y/o and lonely and desperate.
You are quite right, there are many things college doesn’t teach you, including the aspirations of most women in college. I’d be lying if I didn’t say most women pursue bulls~~~ degrees in college while getting the government to foot the bill so they can husband hunt a few years while they’re in their prime. It’s a pretty crafty move. In contrast, some women do go into science and technology and get good degrees to make good money, but these women are generally seen as depressed looking (Not because they’re ugly).
@exsliventxs – Yep you are right. “including the aspirations of most women in college.”
What the world does need in the academic field is more math, science and engineering graduates and less Arts, Literature and Liberal studies. I don’t mean to offend anyone here who has these degrees, but it is fact the world is desperately short of the first 3 mentioned fields.
I don’t know how things are with universities in your respective countries but here it has become a massive business. It’s about bums on seats and the continual upgrade from bachelors to MBA to PhD and it’s sad because these people are so disheartened in the end when they come out and they cannot get work, have a sense of entitlement of $150K a year with zero experience and as BigBoy83 pointed out, yep, the females go looking for a husband with money. Ha and I have seen a few of them marry the tradesman!
I have been to some of these areas of Sydney where these women live, it’s like a litter of kittens that gather in one spot. They are vicious and competitive with one another, I remember being in Roseville, Sydney one night on a date with said women and we walked about 200m down the main street on our way to a small intimate cafe. In that 200m walk this woman got 4 text messages from other women/friends her age asking “Who’s the hot looking guy I just saw you walking with?” Amazing.
I’m a degreed Chem. Engineer, yet I have a great disdain for degrees and certifications. Are most new businesses started by MBA’s? Has GDP increased drastically since we started graduating so many MBA’s? What University did Thomas Alvah Edison graduate from? [Answer: None] I graduated from a large State university so didn’t incur any debt (the taxpayers foot about 2/3 of the cost in the USA), but nonetheless, have major criticisms of the ‘system’. First, let me say, the best Engineer I ever worked with, had no degree. He was practical. He’d often buy used equipment at auctions and could improvise and build a plant for 10-20% of what others could, and in a fraction of the time. He had business sense and created jobs. He couldn’t solve a differential equation but he could troubleshoot a pump AND rebuild it with his own two hands. 90% of what I know of Engineering I learned outside college, albeit, I graduated 20 years ago. Most companies, would not/could not hire him due to his lack of a degree. I call that short-sighted.
Nowadays you are locked out of many positions in Corporate America unless you have degrees and certifications. Without those ‘keys’, you’re locked out. Unfortunately, there is no option to ‘test out’ of courses for the most part. Companies are regimented and hierarchial. The cover-your-ass mentality reigns, so hiring someone without a degree or certs, is prohibited — and certainly prohibited by HR! Most universities do not cater to non-traditional students, even State-sponsored ones. While there is an argument for onsite laboratory courses, the vast majority of courses could be taken at lower cost via distance learning. I ought to be able to obtain a Professional Engineer certification WITHOUT a 4 year degree. In fact, in early America, you could pass the bar and practice law WITHOUT a law degree. This is, of course, no longer allowed, since it would prevent professional schools from lining their pockets.
I am also not particularly impressed by most college graduates. I’m impressed by intelligent, hard-working co-workers — some with degrees, some not.
College graduates often have little or no experience when they graduate but lots of entitlement. At the same time, corporate America offers only limited opportunities for promotion to individuals without degrees… No matter how qualified they are…
As for women, some DO prefer to live alone. I would say too there are many NAWALTS in fields such as physics, mathematics, computer science, and Engineering — though not too many women overall in those fields! Ditto for welders, mechanics, and construction workers — though there are even fewer women in those occupations — infinitesimal numbers really — I’ve only met a handful in my entire life. I respected those individualists who did what they had to do to do what they wanted.
As for happiness, http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2006/02/13/are-we-happy-yet/ — statistically, married people are happier, as are religious people and rich people. At the same time, it seems to me high divorce rates are evidence all is not well in Oz; the happiness statistics seem to contradict high divorce rate observations. All I can ASSume there is that the unhappy ones get divorced, so what’s left are the happy ones, thereby skewing said statistics, which appear to agree across numerous studies that marriage = happier. I ASSume in this case, that those who divorced, wish they’d never married. In other words, if most marriages end in the first 10 years but I survey everyone married with a median marriage duration of, say, 15-20 years, then that may skew my results to marriage = happier IF it survives the test of time…
As for me, I am happier single; I felt with no kids, the wife should hold full time employment, keep the house clean, and contribute and I’ve never bought into most ‘mental illnesses’. Indeed, I think most people in the ‘helping professions’ ought to have to get a J-O-B (social workers, etc).
I do know some women who are successful and seem to be happy with it. They are usually in the sales recruiting business where they can flirt for profit.
As far as women students go, I’m amazed at the number of women in their thirties and forties who are back in school, to get a degree in teaching or nursing or something. It wouldn’t bother me except that most are on grants or loans they’ll never be able to pay back. The purpose of financial aid is for society to assist so that theoretically you’ll be giving back to society, but if you’re 37, there isn’t enough time left to give back. You’re essentially stealing. You missed your window, go back to your crap job.
I dated someone like that, and it was really pointless to continue much further. Besides the fact that she was living in a fantasy land, there was no way I was going to take on her useless debt. And she was planning on getting her masters in education after she finished her bachelors.
Ok. Then do it.
All I can ASSume there is that the unhappy ones get divorced, so what’s left are the happy ones, thereby skewing said statistics, which appear to agree across numerous studies that marriage = happier. I ASSume in this case, that those who divorced, wish they’d never married. In other words, if most marriages end in the first 10 years but I survey everyone married with a median marriage duration of, say, 15-20 years, then that may skew my results to marriage = happier IF it survives the test of time…
^ so much this…
It reminds me of the government telling me that the unemployment rate had been going down, because jobs had been created. When in reality, the people who had been out of work for so long were not counted in the statistic.
When I took my statistics class from a brilliant woman who has a PhD in statistics, she pointed out several important things, how were these figures gathered, how were they analyzed, who gains the most from this publishing and where does the money end up flowing because of it.
If the goal is to keep men on the blue pill, then showing that marriage will make you happier is a great way to go about it, even though the divorce rates outright prove it a lie. Since roughly 60% of all marriages end in divorce, it merits to say that marriage does NOT in fact result in happiness. The hilarious truth is something so cliche that everyone’s heard it before but usually never develop it because “rat race” — true happiness is only cultivated from within.
“When I took my statistics class from a brilliant woman who has a PhD in statistics, she pointed out several important things, how were these figures gathered, how were they analyzed, who gains the most from this publishing and where does the money end up flowing because of it.”
Solid point.
… and then we get a little taste of reality……
A degree doesn’t mean s~~~. But don’t take my word for it, Steve Jobs would say the same. A woman’s studies degree is also a “degree” and it’s good enough to wipe your ass with.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.This is from a movie Trainspotting (for those who didn’t know):
Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a f~~~ing big television, Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players, and electrical tin can openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol and dental insurance. Choose fixed-interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisure wear and matching luggage. Choose a three piece suite on hire purchase in a range of f~~~ing fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the f~~~ you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing f~~~ing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, f~~~ed-up brats you have spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life . . . But why would I want to do a thing like that?proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Lonely men, huh? Then why is it I only ever see whiny rants from women asking: “Where are all the good men?” Especially in Sydney, where there are a hell of a lot more single women than single men.
Seems to me this is a case of overeducated lonely frustrated spinsters whining about unencumbered average Joes who are too busy making the most of their own lives to give a f~~~ about them. For all their supposed education, these women still don’t understand that if men aren’t bothering to meet women’s inflated, exacting standards, it’s because the men have decided those women aren’t worth the effort. Hear that ladies? You’re not worth it.
I think a more pointed question would be to ask in these surveys, of those EVER married, were you happier before or 5 and 10 years after you signed the Marriage Contract, and also, to divide responses by gender. I tend to prescribe to many MGTOW views (hypergamy, etc), but given my scientific bent, was curious about happiness statistics and how they meshed with my perceptions and MGTOW philosophy — that latter, admittedly, antecdotally based largely upon the many men I’ve known who were divorce financial raped. The other problem I have with the surveys I could find, is they didn’t pose whether the SAME PERSON was happier BEFORE or AFTER the marriage — i.e., the set of ‘unlikely to marry’ people (overweight, bad personal hygiene or personality, unambitious, etc) may be less likely to marry AND less happy, thereby, skewing the happiness results to favor traditional marriage. And of course, correlation doesn’t imply causation; who would marry an unhappy person? If, then, two happy people typically marry, marriage then concentrates happy people… That doesn’t mean getting married will cause happiness… I’d expect happy people to seek happy people for marriage. Again my issue is comparing like to like — same person happier, less happy, or same, 5, 10, 15, 20 years after marriage.
A better set of questions would seem to be a breakdown of happier/sadder based on relationship status (single, cohabitating, married), as well as duration of relationship, for the SAME person across their lifetime and broken down by gender. I am skeptical that the surveys I read were altered like global warming data to reach a pre-conceived conclusion (can you say ‘hockey stick chart’ kids?). I’m not a big conspiracy fan. I’m also not a statistician, just a lowly engineer.
I live in the US but women tend to want to ‘marry up’, as they become more educated this becomes harder and harder since there are fewer men meeting their requirements.
As for ‘overeducated’ women, what does that mean exactly? Most people are ‘overeducated’ for the jobs they perform nowadays due to employers being able to request a college degree to flip hamburgers. I do find most of these ‘overeducated’ people are NOT very well educated in History, Economics, math, or logic. I like to see men AND women pursue education and training and better themselves. I guess I’m a feminist but certainly not a 3rd wave one; I believe in equality of opportunity and responsibilities (eligible for draft, no special treatment in family court) NOT equality of outcomes (e.g. 50% of engineers hired must be women)… Today’s ‘feminism’ definition is starkly different than mine and typically involves oppression by the patriarchy malarky and nonsense about rape… Rape happens but it’s relatively rare based upon crime statistics.
A ‘Women’s studies’ degree is a degree in misandry and political activism. A ‘Black Studies’ degree is a degree in blame, reverse racism and quotas. All of these bulls~~~ ‘disciplines’ were created after the Free Speech Movement to appease special interest groups. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton = thugs/opportunists/race pimps. Rosa Parks, Freedom Riders, George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglas = civil rights leaders. I don’t even think that BS (Women’s Studies, Black Studies) should be subsidized by giving them Departments at public institutions but it is, due to politics.
As for Liz Jones, if she got rid of 16 of the 17 cats she MIGHT have a chance with men.
As for the link, Key Master, I laughed my a** off, WGS = Women’s Gender Studies, that was great. What are you going to do with that degree other than find somebody dumb enough to hire you at a university to teach it to other suckers to run up student loan debt? That’s a degree in ‘want fries with that?’
The economy in the US is more complicated than just unemployment statistics capture. Not only do they not include those who have given up a search, they don’t include the underground economy. They also don’t reflect the great difficulty newcomers have finding entry level positions or underemployment. The decline of manufacturing has had a devastating impact. The job market has been especially bad for unskilled labor in the last several decades.
If you live in the U.S. there is a lot more wrong with the economy then just statistical cherry picking of data. Wages are stagnant, they have been for years. Inflation, market manipulation corporate greed and college lies are just some of the problem. As the OP said, a college degree does not guarantee you anything but debt, however, over your life you may earn more. All these people talking about engineering, computers and stem jobs, I hate to say it, but a lot of that is also cherry picked. Do your due diligence and you will see that companies are lobbying congress under false premises that there are not enough qualified individuals in these majors, this allows them to have more visas for people from india etc. My neighbor is a perfect example, he is IT. He said he will never hire a new grad because when he started they paid him 30k over 12 years ago, now they start at 50k+, he would rather pay someone on a visa to do it for 20k or less, not pay benefits and after they use the guy and he completes the contract, they kick him to the curb. He said it isnt fair they started him at 30k all those years and now they start at 50k, he said they need to earn it like he did and start at 30k. Men are sometimes our own worst enemy. If you go online you will see that there are 1,000’s of under or unemployed stem grads. The stats are sickening. It is no different then the nursing craze of the early 2000’s. The govt and BLS preached nursing this nursing that because of the baby boomers retiring. You know what happened? The baby boomers didn’t retire, everyone become a nurse, now salaries are dropping, students are coming out of school of programs and cant find work because there is a glutted reserve of nurses. Now because there are so many nurses a 2 year degree wont do it anymore, they want a BSN. Just years ago you could start as a graduate nurse for $22 with a 2 year degree or program. Now, I see unemployed grads and new grad nurses with 4 year degrees starting at $18. The wages have dropped through the floor because of all the new nurses.
Then you have underemployment cannibalization of jobs. Prime example, how many college grads come out and go for the first job they can get because they have 80k+ in debt. They take a job that pays $7-12 an hour to pay the huge loan bill every month. Now the guy with a high school degree cant get a job because people with bachelors degrees have them. The bachelors is the new high school diploma. Colleges keep raising tuition so the cycle of pumping people out and raising tuition prices is rampant. It is a nasty cycle. More people with the high school diploma aka the bachelors degree holders, and the less valuable it becomes.
It also doesn’t help women are going to college more then men, therefore women are going to start making more then men because men just wont simply be going to college to even have a chance to get that career because you need a degree. think Nurse, Dr, PhD, etc. So that creates women as holding more wealth and bringing home the bacon. Male enrollment from colleges has been falling steadily. If women are complaining now, just wait for the next ten years, they are soooooo f~~~ed! If they are lonely now, just wait!!!
It hits a lot of people, even myself… while I am not proud of it nor do I care to admit it, when I graduated last year I was hit with an avalanche. I couldn’t get a job in the field and applied to 20+ jobs in the mental health field. I am going for a graduate degree part time. I got my bachelors and couldn’t get my foot in the door for a measly $10-14 hour job, So I went outside the field and now I make $20.50 an hour with full benefits after 90 days. On the plus side, for my 30th birthday I just bought my first Italian Superbike. An Ape or its real name an Aprilia RSV. I didn’t pay cash just financed it because I have some hefty student loan debt but I think it’s a nice gift for myself instead of spending that $240 a month including insurance, on a woman or dating.
The world is changing gentleman, the odds and society is against us, hopefully we wont just survive the next 30 years but thrive. I said 30 years because I will be happy making it to 60.
O lookee here. So Australia is full of lonely men lonely men, huh? Well what about this little gem?
As for ‘overeducated’ women, what does that mean exactly?
Oh that’s easy. Overeducation is a surplus of education to no useful or productive purpose. Let me put it to you like this: an engineer with a Ph.D. is always going to be undereducated, because any engineer worth his salt will tell you there is always something useful he could still learn. A woman’s studies major who dropped out in her sophomore year is overeducated, because there is absolutely no use to anything she has learned.
At 6:00 on the timeline all I heard was the female “me me me, what I want attitude.”
When I go out in Sydney with friends and meet women, they will generally asked you in the first 5 questions:
“Where do you live?” – translation, what side of the Sydney Harbour Bridge do you live, determines the wealthy suburbs very quickly.
“So what do you do with yourself?” – translation, are you on over 6 figures matched with where you live etc. Bankers are still very popular!
Off topic, @sidecar is your Avatar from The Great Escape?
At 6:00 on the timeline all I heard was the female “me me me, what I want attitude.”
With women it’s always “me me me”. If it were single men facing a shortage of single women there wouldn’t even be a piece on the morning talk show. It’s only when things start affecting women that the media cares. At best there’s only bulls~~~ articles like the one that started this thread about how men supposedly need to shape up to meet the wants of “educated” women. “Me me me!”
Did you catch the crap about getting a “boy toy”? Have fun being one guy’s pump and dump after another until you’re all worn out, girls.
Off topic, @sidecar is your Avatar from The Great Escape?
It’s from the set of The Great Escape but not the film itself. The producers brought in a lot of fun hardware for the shoot, and it’s only natural that the guys would want to play with it.
@sidecar – Yeah, that is a cool Avatar. I thought that was Steve McQueen and James Garner!
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