Straight MGTOW Getting Gay Married

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

So YouTuber Turd Flinging Monkey has proposed recently that straight, white cis-gendered males should begin claiming to be trains lesbian women in order to inoculate ourselves against the coming total criminalization of what we are.

He then went on to suggest that while doing so in order to be able to claim jobs, benefits and a voice in society and to avoid having to pay any bachelor tax or be treated like second class citizens may not work, that we can at least support intersectional feminism as a way to accelerate the process of feminism eating itself.

Last night I went out for dinner and drinks with a gay friend of mine and together we came up with something I think might be even better. We hatched the idea that he and I should get married.

Of course it wouldn’t be a typical marriage… we’d basically set up some form of legal entity that would protect us and our assets as individuals, swap power of attorney documents for medical situations, etc, all nice and tight and legally binding, and then have some kind of service officiated by a reverend in the Church of the Sub-Genius or something like that… just sticky enough to be able to claim tax benefits, if possible.

Now I’m not gay and have no interest in “trying” to be gay. He’d be free to f~~~ whomever he wanted and would have the cover of already being married in case someone tried to get in too close, and I’d have the same deal. I’d get the benefit of being able to infer that I am gay any time I like by calling him my husband, which covers me against most form of feminist bulls~~~ and our dual incomes (we make about the same amount of money) would make a lot of things possible that would otherwise be beyond our reach as individuals.

For the record, this guy is definitely the man in the relationships he has and is ambitious, free thinking and self-determinate… more of a MGTOW than most of the straight men I know… but he recognizes the value of a legal arrangement between like minded individuals.

I’ve long thought that the gay community should skip marriage as it’s known today and do something better,., something that covers both parties and represents the independent yet cooperative nature of a relationship while incorporating sexual openness, automatic time limits (this contract will self-destruct…) and other considerations that men typically require in business contracts. A true “gay marriage” would be like a corporation rather than the ambush of regular marriage and would be so enticing that straight people would want to go to Massachusetts and get “gay married” then go back to Georgia or Texas and fight for it to be recognized there as well.

What do you guys think?

After the booze wore off, just the taste of the word “marriage” in my mouth was foul but I do like the idea of having someone who I know and trust to be a material part of my life. Given that I won’t have to sleep with the guy, do you think that a “manriage” could work?

[RoyDalParticipant]

I think it would have to work under today’s rules. There was a movie about it. It is set in Australia, but I am sure the same goes for US, UK, and Canada:

Strange Bedfellows http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0360032/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[AttonParticipant]

I think a 10000 strong assault rifle waving protest at the white house might be useful in dealing with a criminalization of who we are. Quite frankly any goverment that would go that far should be dismantled either peacefully or by force.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 42]

Are you kidding me? I now pronounce you indirectly “attached” to the “state” and subject to the long dark robe dude (Darth Rober), and his minions of law. and their sub-minions of eternal laws. and endless bites of misery…
F~~~ that, I’m going skiing, ALONE!
The strings of marriage under any of this f~~~tarded society’s laws, are ropes to be worn around a man’s neck, then snapped to pop of his head!
And for woman, it’s a saddle, saddlebags, bridal, spurs (razor sharp), and whip (with broken glass embedded).
I’d rather be dead than to have a bridal in my mouth, a saddle on my back, bleeding from my rump and ribs, or at best, a f~~~ing rope around my neck!
Clop clopity clop clop clop; this is the sound of MG-Tower trotting away without rope or saddle, under his own will and direction……..

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

I’d rather be hated for what I am than loved for a lie.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Nah, f~~~ all that marriage bulls~~~. It’s already known that gay marriages are under more scrutiny than your regular old marriage. IDGAF. I’ll move the f~~~ outta this country before s~~~ gets that bad.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[HitmanParticipant]

Marriage under ANY circumstance is to be avoided like the f~~~ing PLAGUE !..

[OgreParticipant 5863]

If a bachelor tax comes along, and assuming that it doesn’t apply equally to women that will be a case for all the way up to the Supreme Court to look at. Imagine meeting our ACLU lawyer for that first brief. 🙂

Additionally, even the addition of a new tax is not turning being single into a crime. The tax would be sold as a way to help the children from people who can afford to give more because they don’t support anybody else, so theoretically they can pay more.

Since our current tax code is based on income and deductions it would have to have some pretty tricky wording to avoid all of the problems that would constitutionally invalidate it. I don’t see it showing up any time in the near future. As far as MGTOW being hunted in the streets, it might make a good B movie for SyFy but it’s just not going to materialize until a HUGE number of men fully drop out.

Even then it will take years for women to realize that the only people they ever compete against for promotions are other women. They’ll be too busy celebrating how well women are doing in the workplace to make any adjustment for the fact that no “good men” are even around to try to snare.

As far as a gay marriage. You could just say that you feel like a woman trapped in man’s body, but occasionally your inherent bad maleness comes out and that’s why you still feel the need to sleep with women.

We’ve reached the point where everybody else has to accept whatever gender or orientation you say you are has to be accepted or they are closed minded bigots. Use the World they have created against them. It’s mental and political Tai Chi.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Can you give me a bottom-line on this? What’s the actual benefit in numbers? Or are you strictly doing it so someone you know/trust can make (e.g.) end-of-life decisions for you, if you’re physically unable to make them yourself?

I’m just thinking in terms of taxes, but that’s black & white; I know if one of you makes a lot more than the other, there’s a tax benefit. But if you’re closer in salary there’s a ‘tipping point’ where it’s actually not beneficial.

From http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2014/03/11/how-much-the-marriage-tax-penalty-will-cost-you

The marriage bonus is most likely seen in partnerships where one spouse earns significantly less than the other. Situations in which one spouse stays at home or has a part-time job rather than a full-time job are most likely to result in a marriage bonus.

…and paying more taxes when married, vs. single was a

common scenario for high-earning, married couples

from http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/2012/05/08/how-to-avoid-marriage-taxes

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

MattNYC wrote:

Can you give me a bottom-line on this? What’s the actual benefit in numbers? Or are you strictly doing it so someone you know/trust can make (e.g.) end-of-life decisions for you, if you’re physically unable to make them yourself?

Oh, we’re not actually doing it… it was just drunk talk and I wanted to hear what you guys thought about it,

Such revulsion against the word marriage, even with another man and under a set of custom laws so radically different from the current concept of marriage that they couldn’t even be called that… hey Matt, at least you were willing to look at it objectively.

[OrlandoParticipant 833]

Just the thought of marrying a guy is revolting to me, No way I could do it for any reason.

Any form of marriage for any reason is out for me.

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