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Thought I’d get this tale off my chest since it popped into my mind during today’s yoga session. The craziest thoughts will cross your mind when you’re meditating (or doing yoga which is the same to me). This story happened when I lived in NYC, in the first two years of moving to NYC. I’d just gotten into the pick up game. The iphone 4 had just come out, everyone had read Niel Strauss’s the Game, and you could still go up to bar tenders in new york bars and ONLY ask for water without having to buy anything. You could also say anything to a woman, assuming you had the b~~~~ to do so. Most what being a PUA back then simply had to do with over coming your fear of approaching complete strangers (beautiful stunning strangers at that) and being able to maintain your composure (none of this #metoo bulls~~~ or “everything is rape” attitude from these c~~~s today)
Through a pick up forum I had started going out with a couple guys every weekend (mainly Saturday nights but sometimes Sunday daytime). Met some really cool guys from that forum. Also met some guys who had serious psychological issues. But for the most part it was guys who were just looking to improve themselves.
(Names have been changed to protect the innocent/guilty). Steve was a successful banker dude. He had money and wanted to learn the game. I was pretty good at this s~~~ so he’d always hit me up to go and wing him. It wasn’t possible to go out with a big group of guys when trying to get into popular NYC clubs so two guys was the limit. I was in my mid twenties and he was in his mid thirties, well built, good looking guy. He served in the army and from what I could he’d made decent contacts while he was in that helped him land this corporate bank job. If I could go back I’d join the military, because when you get out into the real world and apply for jobs they seem to like that you served. It def helps.
I’d been living in Long Island (working a s~~~ soul crushing job) at the time and would take the LIRR into manhattan and down to wall st where Steve had a studio apartment in a building with a door man, gym, laundry service etc. The commute was well over 2 hours sometimes and I didn’t give a s~~~. I felt alive when I was out sarging/gaming women. It just goes to show that if you love doing something you’ll find a way to do it, rain, sleet or snow. Those two hour commutes felt like 10 minutes knowing that I was about to hit the streets and bag these bitches up. I’d get to Steve’s place and we’d pre game, pumping each other up with pick up material and reaffirmations etc.
Steve’s Studio apartment was upper middle class, very trendy. He paid over 3k a month for a 600 sq ft studio, it not including utilities. The building was pretty new but they cut corners in terms of acoustics, and you could here everything, from loud TV’s to people laughing to arguing to having sex. If you’ve lived in NYC before, it’s something you just get used to. Still, I was always surprised that even paying that much for a place that the walls were still that thin.
Steve had a neighbor, we’ll call Mike who lived next door with his girlfriend Sherry (same size apartment and all). Mike was a tall good looking fit guy who ran his own IT company (his dad owned a few pharmacy’s). He actually looked like Sasha Baron Cohen. Well dressed, high energy, and the life of the party. His girl Sherry was pretty hot, skinny, dressed sexy. They were a power couple and looked good together. We’d all go out together to dinner sometimes and then hit a popular club like the Pink Elephant or the Ganzavort hotel. Steve and I had been going out so much that we got to know most door guys at all the cool clubs. And the ones we couldn’t get into Mike usually knew someone.
The golden years of my PUA escapades were my first two or three years of going out. After that it started to get old, the women were all the same and the techniques became robotic, but if I deviated from them (the techniques) the interaction would always fail. But I got to the point where I didn’t care because I was just happy to try anything new that wasn’t robotic. I still thought that not all women were like that. Steve ended up getting into a Long term relationship after about 2 years of us going out. We’d still meet up sometimes but it wasn’t the same with his girl, even though she was a pretty cool chick (not too hot, but he said that she was into kinky s~~~, and she squirts lol). Steve would drink more and try breaking up with her by the end of the night. She stuck around for a pretty long time. He even bought a house in Connecticut where they lived together for sometime. Never got married though. Smart man. I all but stopped “sarging” with him since he didn’t like staying out too late.
Towards the end of all this though, I saw Mike and Sherry’s relationship go from awesome cute power couple who lived together, to the couple that couldn’t stand each other. It was obvious they’d fallen out of love. I literally thought this guy was going to propose to her at one point. I think he did but there was no set date. One of the last time I saw Mike; I was at Steves place; we’d just come back from going out (Steve and me went out and Steve’s girl stayed home) and it was pretty late. I forget how we run into Mike but he invites me next door to hang out real quick. I hadn’t seen him in a while so I was like yeah sure. Steve stays with his chick and I go next. Mike gives me some soup he had just made and we’re sitting in the living room and he’s showing me some music he was into. The guy was the type of dude who would give you shirt on his back. I never saw him with a frown on his face, but this night was first time I saw that persona have some chinks in the armor.
His girl was in the “bedroom” area (it was a studio so there were no doors so you could hear everything). Mike is playing the music pretty loud and acting like she’s not even there. Sherry eventually yells out that it’s too loud and that she’s trying to sleep. Mike, doesn’t say anything and keeps talking to me. I start feeling awkward as f~~~. Sherry gets up and confronts Mike and they start arguing. He’s saying some s~~~ like “shut the f~~~ up bitch.” She goes back to bed and he’s mumbling “bitch” to where she can still here it. I finish the soup and head back to Steve’s. Felt bad for the guy being that he’s gotta live with that.
I didn’t see or run into Mike after that. Steve and I stopped going out as well but we’d keep in touch here and there via texts. I forget how I heard it, probably from Steve, but Mike ended up moving out the apartment; they broke up. Sherry ends up f~~~ing Steve. I believe she f~~~s Steve when she’s still living with Mike. Mike never found out and Steve made it sound like “it is what it is.” This is while Steve is in a realationship with his girl.
Back then I had zero understanding of why women will cheat, and that given the opportunity, they will always cheat with the man who has better/more resources. Sherry didn’t f~~~ Steve to try and get into a relationship with him but I’m sure the thought did cross her mind. Relationships are messy as f~~~. Hatred, jealousy, and deceit.
The last time I spoke with Steve he was getting married to some brazillian chick. Their facebook pics always had them traveling and kissing/hugging. He doesn’t know I’ve gone mgtow, I simply mentioned that I was done dating for a long while, and was busy stacking my paper. Either way, f~~~ relationships fellas. All women are like that. Go Mgtow, acquire currency.
The last time I spoke with Steve he was getting married to some brazillian chick. Their facebook pics always had them traveling and kissing/hugging.
I don’t get WHY these “couples” feel the need to advertise to the world “look at us, aen’t we just so happy and loving ? “, It’s like they haven’t grown up from their teen years, and still trying to capture that unrealistic “In Love” thing after they have probably both in and out of “Love” more times then either can care to remember.
It’s like this couple my friend was telling me about. They have both had multiple relationships and marriages, and in public they are all over each other. The real funny thing is that they are both pushing 60 and acting like 16 year old “Love Birds”.
What a couple Schmuucks; they deserve each other and all the inevitable misery to follow AGAIN.
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Oh, it’s def these 12 year minded c~~~s getting their men to do this type of s~~~. Guys don’t give a f~~~ about posting pics of kissing their girl. Who started this “taking picture of my food” craze? Women. Who uses social media more than anyone else? Women. It’s crack to them. The Selfie was made famous because women are narcissists. Every movement we’ve had in social media was started because of pussy. Either wanting to get it, or showing you have it.
Guys that think they are gaming the system by engaging in activity as a PUA are actually simply reinforcing Hypergamy. These guys think they have “won” something when in the end they dip their dick in some smelly used pussy. They don’t even see they have been played by supposedly “understanding” the rules of seduction. My question, whose rules.
I’ve seen them in action. By the end of the night they have spent a lot of time, and usually money as well…..because when ever I’ve seen it……….it was still the guy buying the drinks, courting some girl with attention, giving her lots of strokes that the other members of the bee hive there with her can view. You think she hasn’t seen and heard it all before. You think she didn’t know five minutes in to it whether she was going to have sex with you or not.
And at the end of all that, following their rules, spending all your time and some of your money on the objective of bedding her, at the end of all that, what’d ya get, a half hour of wetting your dick.
Sorry, these pick up skills that some guys talk up are the biggest ruse I can imagine. I wouldn’t doubt it that women are actually behind all those “secret” skills.
You are simply learning the rules women want you to follow and then you are “rewarded” with pussy. How’s that revolutionary? You’re not pulling one over on women and you haven’t gamed them in to sex or done anything…………except to show that if you play the role they wish you to play, dance to their tune, follow their script, (like a dog doing a trick for a treat), you get a little sex. That’s showing them bitches.
I mean really, that’s got to be so tiring.
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
if you play the role they wish you to play, dance to their tune, follow their script, (like a dog doing a trick for a treat), you get a little sex. That’s showing them bitches.
I mean really, that’s got to be so tiring.
Hopefully, she doesn’t regret it the morning after and yell, “Rape !!” to HER Police Department……
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Thank God for the red pill! I can see this s~~~ for what it really is: A colossal waste of f~~~ing time and money and energy! No real reward afterwards…no reason to even play the game. If you “win”, you just end up with an albatross of a woman hanging around your f~~~ing neck, dragging you into the depths! No f~~~ing thanks! #MANOUT!
An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.
Just share a fleshlight among friends – same as PUA strategy. What a yummy thought…
Good kid – that was a good story. Damn depressing in hindsight though. Being in the NY area, so much of it rang familiar.
I’m so glad I never got in to that PUA s~~~. Getting laid just isn’t worth any real effort or money.
I’d rather spend money on a good movie or video game.
Only good thing about PUA is that it is not marriage. Getting married is really dumb.
I find it hysterical that a couple days ago my mom again asked me if I ever saw myself getting married to the gf. (The gf was helping take care of me a little for a few days after my hernia surgery).
I said no. I can see myself returning the favor if my gf gets sick or has surgery but nothing gives me a reason to engage the government into my personal relationships.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Thank God for the red pill! I can see this s~~~ for what it really is: A colossal waste of f~~~ing time and money and energy! No real reward afterwards…no reason to even play the game. If you “win”, you just end up with an albatross of a woman hanging around your f~~~ing neck, dragging you into the depths! No f~~~ing thanks! #MANOUT!
It’s coming to terms that society has it out for EVERY MAN to go down this path. Not the PUA path, but the “get married, have kids, be a slave to your woman and kids” path. Even in the PUA game you’re surrounded by women who are not the best pick for a long term set up. It’s literally a million to one finding a female who isn’t insane/selfish/vengeful etc.. It’s like being told you have to play the lottery (powerball) and if you don’t win it’s because you didn’t play hard enough. How about just saying “f~~~ this, I’m not going up against those odds.” That’s dating in a nutshell, and as men we’re held responsible for everything that goes wrong, not everything that went right. Mgtow is the solution for all this bulls~~~.
But coming to terms with this is the issue. How to find and take the red pill before you’re obliterated by a first or second marriage. Being a pick up artist helped me see how vile women were. I had to meet and deal with a s~~~ ton of them though. But at least I wasn’t tricked into marriage and then divorce which would have cost me even more pain and misery.
Just share a fleshlight among friends – same as PUA strategy. What a yummy thought…
Good kid – that was a good story. Damn depressing in hindsight though. Being in the NY area, so much of it rang familiar.
Yep, sharing women happened a lot in this game. PUA’s are mainly sex hungry and desperate for female attention. We validated our successes based on who/what we were dating at the time. How many numbers we were getting or how many girls we were f~~~ing with at once. It was all about putting points on the scoreboard and gloating about it. At least, that was my motivation. Talk about unhealthy expectations. There’s seriously something wrong with this world when you need to treat a female like s~~~ in order to keep her under your thumb.
Any time I treated them as an equal or as someone that I actually cared for, they would turn on me, stir up some dumb drama or simply try to make my life a living hell. The only solution was to cut them off, on to the next one. And on and on. It got old real fast.
the women were all the same and the techniques became robotic, but if I deviated from them (the techniques) the interaction would always fail.
I’ve never directly read any of the ‘game/PUA’ stuff; but I came across a lot of it when I read TRP on reddit. I initially thought that site would be like this site, but it’s not at all. I don’t even know why they call themselves red pilled.
Anyway, everything they said sounded JUST like what it’s called – a big, never-ending game in which the male is supposed to play mental gymnastics (be funny BUT hold “frame”, etc. etc). Two questions:
1. What are examples of these alleged techniques?
2. Wasn’t it both exhausting trying to “play the game” and seem absolutely ridiculous that you couldn’t just be yourself in order to talk to and attract a female?Both of those aspects have made me never even want to read or attempt this stuff. It also makes one realize how ridiculous women are, that you have to play this nonsensical game in order to simply have a lover. I would think just reading the game theories or even practicing them would turn a man red pilled.
What turned you red pilled?
Resident cynic.
the women were all the same and the techniques became robotic, but if I deviated from them (the techniques) the interaction would always fail.
I’ve never directly read any of the ‘game/PUA’ stuff; but I came across a lot of it when I read TRP on reddit. I initially thought that site would be like this site, but it’s not at all. I don’t even know why they call themselves red pilled.
Anyway, everything they said sounded JUST like what it’s called – a big, never-ending game in which the male is supposed to play mental gymnastics (be funny BUT hold “frame”, etc. etc). Two questions:
1. What are examples of these alleged techniques?
2. Wasn’t it both exhausting trying to “play the game” and seem absolutely ridiculous that you couldn’t just be yourself in order to talk to and attract a female?Both of those aspects have made me never even want to read or attempt this stuff. It also makes one realize how ridiculous women are, that you have to play this nonsensical game in order to simply have a lover. I would think just reading the game theories or even practicing them would turn a man red pilled.
What turned you red pilled?
Funny you mention that about most PUA’s today going “red pill.” I frequent the red pill reddit sub and it’s literally flocking with PUA’s, or guys who won’t admit to being one. You can always tell who they are because they keep referencing everything needing to be about “frame.” Maintaining one’s frame, and if you keep the right frame then you’ll always come out on top. They aren’t wrong but when it comes to dealing with the reality of things these guys are def creating their own narrative. The goals outweigh rational thought for them. They are no different than a male feminist who’s trying to always stay on the good side of women/pussy. I’ll admit, going PUA was the first form of “red pilling” I ever got.
A lot of the books all these pick up artists recommended were very influential and “red Pill.” If you read these books and then study most pick up material, it’s basically stuff from these books rehashed into their material that they peddle at their bootcamps. They just chose to use the material to get more pussy. To them dealing with the gynocentric environment is something men just have to figure out how to use to their advantage. But you can never truly be your “real” self (but seriously, before being red pilled were we really acting like our ‘real’ selves….I could argue in the my blue pill days, that no, I was always kissing up to someone/something)
1. There were many techniques. The most obvious one was “peac~~~ing.” If you’re a man’s man, you’ll think the idea of peac~~~ing is utterly ridiculous. Any sane man will say “you don’t need to peac~~~ to get a woman’s attention…” But that’s because you aren’t putting yourself in a woman’s shoes. Once you see how women think you’ll instantly embrace peac~~~ing in all its glory. You’ll never go out dressed half assed and you’ll use your frame to use it to your advantage. Women dress up for other women. It’s ultra competitive when they go out and none of these bitches have actual friends. They just put up with each other, but they’ll cut each other’s throats to get at the alpha….or the guy who’s “peac~~~ing” the most. Sure, Brad pitt in a Hanes t-shirt won’t have any issues, but if you read the book the Game, there’s a story in it where Mystery get’s Scott Bao’s (Charles in charge fame) girl to eat out of his hand (gets her number etc. etc.). It’s all corny how he did it, but he did it. Women are all children mentally though; but Mystery literally invented the word “peac~~~ing.”
So there would be days that I would like “man, I don’t feel like dressing up today, I’ve got good enough game, so it won’t matter…..” But yeah, it did matter in most cases. Not sure why, but it did. Every time I’d go out half assed I’d have a worse off night. It could have been me just being in my head or it could have been a million other things. You must realize Peac~~~ing basically means “how do I stand out in a room full of tons of other men….” So yes, dressing like a bum could work for you if you’re at a high end club where they don’t let anyone in wearing sandals. But if you’re the only guy in the club with Sandals on then you’re technically peac~~~ing. Women want to know who the f~~~ is this guy wearing shorts and sandals when everyone else is dressed to the T. It mean’s you’re either a celebrity or you know the owner of the club etc. etc. etc. Frame up and use it to your advantage lol.
Another one was using “openers.” Every time I’d deviate from the “canned” openers it always took longer to hook them. Again, it could have been just me who felt that but when ever I would try to use something non canned, it would always go off in a direction that I didn’t want it to lol. The easiest opener was “who lies more, women or men…..’they answer’….I only have a couple minutes but….” and you go into your routine. If a normal guy is standing next to these women hearing this he’ll want to vomit….but all the women will be transfixed into the entire story I’m giving. The more you do it the easier it gets. But s~~~ just got so robotic that I eventually wanted to vomit every time I went into it. It was half me being shocked that these dumb bitches were still falling for this s~~~ and the other half being ashamed that I couldn’t have a normal conversation with them.
But that’s the point. If you want to have a normal rational conversation, go have one with a man. Women are literally retarded (the hotter they are the more retarded they are, from my experience) and pick up was the answer to that.
And there were definitely countless times where women had heard said opener and would try to throw you off by saying “omg, we already heard that earlier tonight..” Beginners would be mortified when they heard that from a chick, but seasoned dudes would let it roll right off (maintain the “frame” lol) and go into something else like they didn’t even hear what she said.2. Yes, it was exhausting. But the pay off (getting new pussy) was so huge that it kept me going for almost ten years before I was done. Having the power to attract anything at any moment made me feel like God at times. Understand these techniques don’t just work on women. They work on everyone. But yeah, I left it all because it wasn’t healthy. All the relationships I’d formed were based on a lie. Out of the hundreds of friends I made, I probably have like 1 or 2 that I can actually say were cool people. All the rest had major issues. Just because people know how to make good money or have a decent job doesn’t make them an authority on being a good human being. Getting into this game you see the world for what it really is. Shallow and superficial. If you don’t think people judge you on how you look or where you come from, you’re not really red pilled. PUA’s simply used this to their advantage, which to me, now, is turning your back on your brothers, or your principals. I had no principals. Pussy was my main principal and when I wasn’t getting it I was miserable.
I was tired of being a slave to it. I’d spent the last 8 years or so trying to master the game. If I could go back I would use that time to learn a trade or get a Mgtow type of job, all men, no women, where you feel content after a day of hard labor. I’m still trying to land one of the those gigs as we speak (fingers crossed). I learned that if you spend your life chasing women, it will lead to your doom.
For many men that means divorce rape, losing all your assets, not being able to see your kids. I had really been brain washed about men and women being equal. Even though rule number one in pick up is to always be leading. I still felt that they should at least be respected equally. But nope. No good deed goes unpunished. Women will see that as a weakness and use it against you eventually.
3. What made me turn ACTUAL “Red Pill” was when I started to understand how gynocentric everything is. I was always seeking answers, and the truth, always questioning things, so this mgtow stuff wasn’t really far off. The only thing that changed was me coming to terms that women are toxic and need to be avoided for good. All the evidence I’d ignored from when I was young, from uncles to friends getting f~~~ed over in divorce. Friends of mine drinking themselves to sleep or trying to cheat on another girl because they were stressed out about their current girl. Female friends of mine flat out lying and cheating on their boyfriends and then acting like it was his fault the next day. Women taking no agency for their actions. The entitlement they walk around with. They were doing this s~~~ back then. It’s even worse today.
We didn’t have #metoo or “yes means yes” back then. Today for women, regret can mean rape. They’ve figured out how to get the PC crowd to go along with that notion. No more due process. If they get an audience to tell these stories to then it’s good enough. Men’s lives are being ruined by these feminist c~~~s. Honestly, any man who can turn a blind eye to this is a piece of s~~~. I’ve walked away from any and all friends/family who don’t care about this. My level of Red Pillness is that of creating the look of utter horror in peoples faces after I’m done talking to them about this s~~~. Most people can’t handle the facts. One blue pill friend I grew up with reported me to an anonymous terrorist hotline after I had a chat with him on fb messenger. We didn’t even live in the same state and what I told him had freaked him out so much that he did that. Go figure. But most people aren’t ready for this. It’s literally too much for their own pitiful blue pill existence. In reality blue pill cucks are much more dangerous than feminazi c~~~s. These men are so brainwashed into needing/getting pussy that they’ll throw anyone who gets in their way under the bus. Friends and family especially. Those closest too you are the ones you never see coming. So yeah, I’m just glad to be on a forum where most people know to watch their backs.
But that’s the point. If you want to have a normal rational conversation, go have one with a man. Women are literally retarded (the hotter they are the more retarded they are, from my experience) and pick up was the answer to that.
And this, is the absolutely most succinct summarization of the truth. This is why I’ve honestly never had the patience to deal with women. Direct, transparent communication doesn’t work.
You can’t even simply “shoot the $hit” with a female, the way you would a male; or joke around/be witty. An agenda has to always be present; which always involves there constant entertainment. It’s exhausting.
I recall being out and I was joking around with these girls at the bar. Foreign, French students. Hot as fu$k. They were dying laughing, but the very moment I stopped talking/putting forth any effort – sheer…dead…silence. They literally started playing with their hair and acted like they were bored.
It’s such a one way relationship and it’s so exhausting.
Resident cynic.
But that’s the point. If you want to have a normal rational conversation, go have one with a man. Women are literally retarded (the hotter they are the more retarded they are, from my experience) and pick up was the answer to that.
And this, is the absolutely most succinct summarization of the truth. This is why I’ve honestly never had the patience to deal with women. Direct, transparent communication doesn’t work.
You can’t even simply “shoot the $hit” with a female, the way you would a male; or joke around/be witty. An agenda has to always be present; which always involves there constant entertainment. It’s exhausting.
I recall being out and I was joking around with these girls at the bar. Foreign, French students. Hot as fu$k. They were dying laughing, but the very moment I stopped talking/putting forth any effort – sheer…dead…silence. They literally started playing with their hair and acted like they were bored.
It’s such a one way relationship and it’s so exhausting.
Yeah man, you know what you do in that situation once everything gets quiet. You pick the one out of the group that you like the most and take her to a more secluded part of the bar/club. You essentially won everyone over to where any c~~~ blockers will not get in your way. You would say “hey, you guys are mad cool, let me borrow your friend for a minute….quickly come with me…” all the playful and giddy. Good energy, keep amping her up until you’re making out with her in the corner of the bar etc. And they all say “I never make out with guys in bars….” while they’re making out with you.
My point in all this is that I find it utterly retarded that most men still find this sort of thing awesome….to be able to get women attracted to you. I was that guy who was wowed by all this. I still am if I’m out and see a guy flawlessy run game on a some hotties. It is amazing to see I won’t lie lol. The adrenaline rush I used to get is why I couldn’t stop. Social dynamics man; it’s literally infinite.
I honestly want the value of pussy to go to zero. Below zero. But so long as their as PUA’s who put pussy on a pedestal, and other blue pill cucks…it will never happen. But that’s where the sex robot comes into play. I want men to take control of their hormones and to start embracing sex robots, and then watch all these women beg and cry for the way things used to be back in the days of Cowboys and Indians and settlers. There’s that saying “there are no atheists in foxholes.” After watching the movie Bone Tomahawk last night, I decided to coin the term “there are no feminists in frontier towns….” No feminist c~~~s around in areas one would consider “hard living” where it takes both partners to cooperate in order for things to work out. Those women in those small towns are happy as f~~~ to know their place, to submit to their man, because if not, that means death. There’s no Family Courts or Wellfare offices or places that take food stamps.
If the sex robot takes off, women all over the world will feel what it’s like to live out in the frontier all by themselves with no man to support or help them. They’ll literally try to get big daddy government to make them illegal. Let em try.
Anonymous2Guys that think they are gaming the system by engaging in activity as a PUA are actually simply reinforcing Hypergamy. These guys think they have “won” something when in the end they dip their dick in some smelly used pussy. They don’t even see they have been played by supposedly “understanding” the rules of seduction. My question, whose rules.
I’ve seen them in action. By the end of the night they have spent a lot of time, and usually money as well…..because when ever I’ve seen it……….it was still the guy buying the drinks, courting some girl with attention, giving her lots of strokes that the other members of the bee hive there with her can view. You think she hasn’t seen and heard it all before. You think she didn’t know five minutes in to it whether she was going to have sex with you or not.
And at the end of all that, following their rules, spending all your time and some of your money on the objective of bedding her, at the end of all that, what’d ya get, a half hour of wetting your dick.
Sorry, these pick up skills that some guys talk up are the biggest ruse I can imagine. I wouldn’t doubt it that women are actually behind all those “secret” skills.
You are simply learning the rules women want you to follow and then you are “rewarded” with pussy. How’s that revolutionary? You’re not pulling one over on women and you haven’t gamed them in to sex or done anything…………except to show that if you play the role they wish you to play, dance to their tune, follow their script, (like a dog doing a trick for a treat), you get a little sex. That’s showing them bitches.
I mean really, that’s got to be so tiring.
That’s what PUAs don’t get. They think it is them gaming women, when in reality it is women gaming them. They seem to completely forget that women enjoy sex too. They let women get a free ride on their wallet, and they thnk they’re the ones who “won” at the end of the night because they had sex. Yeah, she got a nice dinner and a bunch of free free drinks all on your f~~~ing wallet, and got sexual pleasure on top of it. Yeah, you really showed her, PUAs!
Men are stupid for allowing women to get a free ride at their expense all for the prospect of pussy.
That’s what PUAs don’t get. They think it is them gaming women, when in reality it is women gaming them.
Men play the game, women know the score. The axiom which lots of men don’t understand even they have good teachers! lol
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The craziest thoughts will cross your mind when you’re meditating
Sorry for hijacking the thread like this but, the reason to meditate, like shaolin monks do, and yoga is just another similar practice started by indus, like piramids, a lot of people in a lot of places start noticing how those things work, but basically, is to empty your mind, don’t go that way, don’t let those thoughts pollute you.
A lot of cultures have similar practices with the very same objective, to empty your mind. Don’t trip around nor let those feelings and thoughts come up, or else you are just day dreaming.
This stuff is enough for a quality movie, but with a very different angle than RomComs and such.
"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain
The craziest thoughts will cross your mind when you’re meditating
Sorry for hijacking the thread like this but, the reason to meditate, like shaolin monks do, and yoga is just another similar practice started by indus, like piramids, a lot of people in a lot of places start noticing how those things work, but basically, is to empty your mind, don’t go that way, don’t let those thoughts pollute you.
A lot of cultures have similar practices with the very same objective, to empty your mind. Don’t trip around nor let those feelings and thoughts come up, or else you are just day dreaming.
I used to think that too. “Empty your mind, empty your mind…” etc.
But for me my issue was that I’d be so worried that I was not “emptying” my mind that I’d be too focused on the fact that I couldn’t empty my mind.
And then I’d beat myself up about it.And then I heard some guru on meditation, can’t remember who, on youtube who was asked some questions similar to this issue. And he essentially said that it’s going to happen and when you veer off from one thought to the next, you notice it and acknowledge what is going on instead of trying to fight it and push it away because you’re so worried about “emptying” your mind.
I found what that guy said (most gurus say it by the way, his explanation of it clicked for me at that moment) to be like a 100lb weight lifted off my chest.
So now, any thoughts racing through my head while doing yoga, I simply accept why they’re going through my head (it might have been an stressful day earlier, or I might have had a conversation or spoken to a family member earlier etc.) and then focus on my breath more and then the thoughts will usually pass by and I’ve actually reached thinking about nothing.
But the funny thing is, I never notice that I’ve reached the point of thinking about nothing in those moments… Because I’m thinking about nothing lol. It’s after the session that I think back of how I was thinking about xyz earlier. If it’s a good idea I’ll usually remember it right afterwards. But that one hour session always ends with me thinking how well it helped me cope with those thoughts that were infiltrating my head.
It’s always “man, that was a good session…”It’s been really helping me write out these posts. Literally therapeutic for me to start writing again. Finding the time etc. It took me years to discipline myself to allocate time every day for yoga. I’m up to 6 to 7 days a week, rarely taking any days off unless I’m ultra busy.
Going mgtow you really get to align the things in your life that you find to be important.
As a PUA I was always trying to mimic what others found to be important or hip or trendy. You always had to be up with what was cool. I still do that with technology because it interests me, but everything else can suck a dick now.
All my favorite bands will never win any awards and all my favorite Youtubers will never be Justin Bieber famous. I hope to start reading again, but first things first. Most of giving zero f~~~s today means you have to walk away from anyone or anything at any given moment. Def not for the faint of heart. I’m still dealing with this notion of knowing when to f~~~ off without losing my shirt in the process (people are opportunists and will try and f~~~ you over any chance they get) but the yoga has been helping in ways I could never imagine.
Alot of men won’t have the patience to do yoga or even sit still to meditate (I still can’t which is why I do yoga), but if you’re past your limit of f~~~s given and don’t see any way to stop yourself from giving so many f~~~s… Give it a try. It’s free, and only requires your time. Start with a simple 10 minute yoga session (I simply youtube ‘yoga for beginners’, or ‘beginner yoga for lower back’ or neck or shoulders etc etc).
I know how hard it was for me to get here so I don’t blame anyone for saying “nah, I’m good.” You’ll all have to find your own way whether it’s yoga or cycling or wood working or basketball etc.
Guys that think they are gaming the system by engaging in activity as a PUA are actually simply reinforcing Hypergamy. These guys think they have “won” something when in the end they dip their dick in some smelly used pussy. They don’t even see they have been played by supposedly “understanding” the rules of seduction. My question, whose rules.
I’ve seen them in action. By the end of the night they have spent a lot of time, and usually money as well…..because when ever I’ve seen it……….it was still the guy buying the drinks, courting some girl with attention, giving her lots of strokes that the other members of the bee hive there with her can view. You think she hasn’t seen and heard it all before. You think she didn’t know five minutes in to it whether she was going to have sex with you or not.
And at the end of all that, following their rules, spending all your time and some of your money on the objective of bedding her, at the end of all that, what’d ya get, a half hour of wetting your dick.
Sorry, these pick up skills that some guys talk up are the biggest ruse I can imagine. I wouldn’t doubt it that women are actually behind all those “secret” skills.
You are simply learning the rules women want you to follow and then you are “rewarded” with pussy. How’s that revolutionary? You’re not pulling one over on women and you haven’t gamed them in to sex or done anything…………except to show that if you play the role they wish you to play, dance to their tune, follow their script, (like a dog doing a trick for a treat), you get a little sex. That’s showing them bitches.
I mean really, that’s got to be so tiring.
That’s what PUAs don’t get. They think it is them gaming women, when in reality it is women gaming them. They seem to completely forget that women enjoy sex too. They let women get a free ride on their wallet, and they thnk they’re the ones who “won” at the end of the night because they had sex. Yeah, she got a nice dinner and a bunch of free free drinks all on your f~~~ing wallet, and got sexual pleasure on top of it. Yeah, you really showed her, PUAs!
Men are stupid for allowing women to get a free ride at their expense all for the prospect of pussy.
Yep, PUA’s all understand that women love having sex more than men, and exploit that fact. I would even tell them to their face. The vagina has over a million more sensitive receptors than the penis. But women put on a good poker face and try to hide that they desire sex more than men.
Women need to go out and be seen. Men don’t need to go out at all. We don’t have a biological clock. We can get a woman pregnant well past our 60s if we want (if we stay healthy etc.)
By age 60 women are dried up old hags. The sad part is that women have been fooled into thinking they’re just like men and can have kids when ever they want. Riding the c~~~ carousel in their peak child bearing years (taking birth control all day) and then wondering why there giving birth to mongoloids, or kids with autism, in their mid to late thirties. If they have money they’ll usually freeze their eggs, but that s~~~ ain’t cheap and the process to do it sounds like scraping your eye ball through dirt would be more comfortable.
PUA’s merely entertain, but it’s a fine line trying not to come off as the dancing monkey. Most guys will f~~~ up by spending money thinking it all faster route. And yes, it can be, but you’ll go broke real quick if you keep doing it.
My rule if thumb was to never spend any money on them. Looking back that’s one of the best decisions I ever stuck to and didn’t deviate from (mainly because I didn’t have any money lol).
Most women had no issue paying for me, buying food etc.
But now I realize these c~~~s were all about being with Chads and Tyrones. Guys who f~~~ them and treat them as trash receptors. I treated them like a sister and never belittled them but they were always one compliment away from going off with a scum bag. The pua has to portray that he’s a bad boy but we all know there are real bad boys out there (I’ve seen them), real bad men who have no problem knocking a bitch up, taking her money while f~~~ing more chicks and treating them like s~~~… and then she still stays with him and “loves him” even when he’s in jail etc.A PUA could never do that. We’d just move on to the next one. And the next one. It’s impossible to not be rational/logical as a PUA. But mgtow take that rationality even further. And rightfully so. Because, it saves lives.
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