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I have been studying Stoicism and Bushido to try to find a purpose, a meaning, a creed for my life. I found this and find it helpful to have the bullet points in one place. I thought my brothers might enjoy it.
I pull it out and study on it from time to time. I have a copy taped to my wall above my computer.
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Sorry for replying to some of your posts today Jan. Was going to at least not be the first one to reply to this topic. I hope posting the image of the stoicism cheat sheet here helps.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Anonymous3I love Bushido and all things Japanese. I also like the stoicism of Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius.
It is a very good expression of life. One would live by such a codes, and it will be good.
Other good things that I like to read is Kalil Gibran:
If you love somebody, let them go, for if they return, they were always yours. And if they don’t, they never were.
I also like the Taoist books, like the Tao Te Ching:
The Decline of the Way …
The mighty Way declined among the folk
And then came kindness and morality.
When wisdom and intelligence appeared,
They brought with them a great hypocrisy.
The six relations were no more at peace,
So codes were made to regulate our homes.
The fatherland grew dark, confused by strife:
Official loyalty became the style.If you love somebody, let them go, for if they return, they were always yours. And if they don’t, they never were.
I know you mean well with that quote, but there are girls out there who use that quote to their advantage to try to manipulate you to pursue them and not the other way around. Society always try to get the man to ask the women to go to the prom or to ask a girl out since it is a very traditional thing to do. My point is that since it is expected for the man to pursue the woman, I do not think that us man can use this quote because of the situation that men are expected to do in our culture.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Anonymous3I do not think that us man can use this quote because of the situation that men are expected to do in our culture.
Anything can me perverted. That is why the Tao Te Ching says “When wisdom and intelligence appeared, They brought with them a great hypocrisy.”
Simplicity is key to understanding.
For me, what this Kalil Gibran quote means is that we dont need a traditional marriage, neither relationships need to be as rigid as our society makes them. REAL LOVE does not need chains or obligations.
Feminists do not like this interpretation.REAL LOVE does not need chains or obligations.
You got a point there. There is no chains or obligations because if you really love that person, you would want to do it, not because you have to.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Anonymous3There is no chains or obligations because if you really love that person, you would want to do it, not because you have to.
That is true. And “letting go” also means that we do not become overly attached, neither would we want to be with someone that binds us. This quote is the very definition of freedom.
But can you build a society with that? Imagine all those female hypergamy instincts and the male attempt to spreed the genes… What would most people do with it? These concepts require a certain understanding, spiritual development maybe…
And so we return full circle to the Tao Te Ching, that states: “The mighty Way declined among the folk, And then came kindness and morality. […] So codes were made to regulate our homes.”
Anonymous11Funny you posted this Jan. I just finished some study of Stoicism elsewhere. It comes from an era where death lurked around every corner, and there were no special snowflakes.
It played a huge role in the early teachings of Christianity especially the letters of Paul. It has been more preserved in Eastern Orthodox Christianity more so than Western Christianity.
I have become much more Stoic in my outlook and am better off on account of it.
@CP,
Not only that my friend, but modern cognitive behavioral therapy draws on Stoicism. Those Greeks weren’t dumb.
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IMO, “maximize positive emotions” is as important a facet as each of the rest. Otherwise withstanding pain can shift to not caring about it which morphs into
not caring about ‘positive emotions.’ IMO 🙂"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
If you love somebody, let them go, for if they return, they were always yours.
And if they don’t, they never were.I first heard that vagina expression in grade school. All those bulls~~~ quotes women “like” attempt to sound good on the surface but it’s just another way of saying “Let her go f~~~ & suck other chads, and when she’s done and comes back looking for a wallet …. you should think it means she loves you. If she doesn’t, it means she found another wallet.”
Nice.
No female actually believes that s~~~ when she gets dumped.
“If you love him set him free. If he comes back he’s yours. If he doesn’t, he never was.”
“OMG that’s so sweet! You’re right. I hope he’s happy.”
…. said no dumped woman ever.
She be like “John Tucker must die. Join me in framing him for rape.“
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Stoicism is a man’s best friend in this day and age. If we didn’t take up a stoic mindset, all of us would end up destroying ourselves because the media, society, and the government f~~~s us men over almost every f~~~ing day.
If I didn’t take up a stoic mindset, I’d probably end up letting my emotions get the best of me.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
Anonymous7Thanks
Anonymous11Roman virtues scarfed from Wikipedia. What have we lost?
Manginas and feminists exhibit none of these.
Roman virtues[edit]
The word “Virtue” itself is derived from the Latin “virtus” (the personification of which was the deity Virtus), and had connotations of “manliness”, “honour”, worthiness of deferential respect, and civic duty as both citizen and soldier. This virtue was but one of many virtues which Romans of good character were expected to exemplify and pass on through the generations, as part of the Mos Maiorum; ancestral traditions which defined “Roman-ness”. Romans distinguished between the spheres of private and public life, and thus, virtues were also divided between those considered to be in the realm of private family life (as lived and taught by the paterfamilias), and those expected of an upstanding Roman citizen.Most Roman concepts of virtue were also personified as a numinous deity. The primary Roman virtues, both public and private, were:
Auctoritas – “spiritual authority” – the sense of one’s social standing, built up through experience, Pietas, and Industria. This was considered to be essential for a magistrate’s ability to enforce law and order.
Comitas – “humour” – ease of manner, courtesy, openness, and friendliness.
Constantia – “perseverance” – military stamina, as well as general mental and physical endurance in the face of hardship.
Clementia – “mercy” – mildness and gentleness, and the ability to set aside previous transgressions.
Dignitas – “dignity” – a sense of self-worth, personal self-respect and self-esteem.
Disciplina – “discipline” – considered essential to military excellence; also connotes adherence to the legal system, and upholding the duties of citizenship.
Firmitas – “tenacity” – strength of mind, and the ability to stick to one’s purpose at hand without wavering.
Frugalitas – “frugality” – economy and simplicity in lifestyle, without being miserly.
Gravitas – “gravity” – a sense of the importance of the matter at hand; responsibility, and being earnest.
Honestas – “respectability” – the image that one presents as a respectable member of society.
Humanitas – “humanity” – refinement, civilization, learning, and generally being cultured.
Industria – “industriousness” – hard work.
Iustitia – “justice” – sense of moral worth to an action; personified by the goddess Iustitia, the Roman counterpart to the Greek Themis.
Pietas – “dutifulness” – more than religious piety; a respect for the natural order: socially, politically, and religiously. Includes ideas of patriotism, fulfillment of pious obligation to the gods, and honoring other human beings, especially in terms of the patron and client relationship, considered essential to an orderly society.
Prudentia – “prudence” – foresight, wisdom, and personal discretion.
Salubritas – “wholesomeness” – general health and cleanliness, personified in the deity Salus.
Severitas – “sternness” – self-control, considered to be tied directly to the virtue of gravitas.
Veritas – “truthfulness” – honesty in dealing with others, personified by the goddess Veritas. Veritas, being the mother of Virtus, was considered the root of all virtue; a person living an honest life was bound to be virtuous.
Virtus – “manliness” – valor, excellence, courage, character, and worth. ‘Vir’ is Latin for “man”.Much of what we call MGTOW is encompassed here.
“If you love him set him free. If he comes back he’s yours. If he doesn’t, he never was.”
“OMG that’s so sweet! You’re right. I hope he’s happy.”
…. said no dumped woman ever.
Lol actually I have seen that…..
In rom coms of course..
The perfect innocent snowflake who goes like “I have to let him go and just be happy in the fact that he’d be happy with someone else”.
This was a major brainwashing factor for me into believing that NAWALTs exists.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Anonymous3If you love somebody, let them go, for if they return, they were always yours. And if they don’t, they never were.
I know you mean well with that quote, but there are girls out there who use that quote to their advantage to try to manipulate you to pursue them and not the other way around. Society always try to get the man to ask the women to go to the prom or to ask a girl out since it is a very traditional thing to do. My point is that since it is expected for the man to pursue the woman, I do not think that us man can use this quote because of the situation that men are expected to do in our culture.
It’s always funny how modern society claims traditions of 50 years old that favor women, but everything that doesn’t blatantly favor women has to be ignored and thrown away, no matter how many thousands of years old those traditions are.
If you love somebody, let them go, for if they return, they were always yours. And if they don’t, they never were.
I know you mean well with that quote, but there are girls out there who use that quote to their advantage to try to manipulate you to pursue them and not the other way around. Society always try to get the man to ask the women to go to the prom or to ask a girl out since it is a very traditional thing to do. My point is that since it is expected for the man to pursue the woman, I do not think that us man can use this quote because of the situation that men are expected to do in our culture.
It’s always funny how modern society claims traditions of 50 years old that favor women, but everything that doesn’t blatantly favor women has to be ignored and thrown away, no matter how many thousands of years old those traditions are.
Yes. We have a term for that in Biology. Its called ‘selective breeding’. Choose only those animals with desirable traits, breed them and multiply those, while leaving out the undesirable ones.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/guides/z6trd2p/revision/3
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I have been studying Stoicism and Bushido to try to find a purpose, a meaning, a creed for my life.
I find it interesting that the historical Jan Sobieski found purpose, meaning and a creed for his life in Catholicism.
God bless, MichaelIt is interesting that all world cultures find the same things important. Honor, valve, bravery, morality…
I wonder if there are universal truths?
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It is interesting that all world cultures find the same things important. Honor, valve, bravery, morality…
I wonder if there are universal truths?
Was that valour?
I read that as vulva 😛
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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