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Hey guys, I just had to share where I’m at right now. I’m going through the 5 stages of grief after going back to the relations~~~ plantation and getting all the experience I needed to reaffirm what I’ve read here and other place in the manosphere. Did the long distance thing, flew from Cali to Texas like 4 times because I thought I had a unicorn. The illusion was all mine. There were red flags and I own my s~~~ for not walking away and vetting her thoroughly. You know how those feelings get. So of course she pulled the rug out from under me and I was left wondering how she could fall out of “love” so easily and quickly. I have the answers now. I had reserved this room at a really nice hotel and canceled the reservation and my flight. However, I wasn’t able to get a refund on the room just a gift card good for up to a year. I’m thinking I will wait until right before it expires and fly back out there and live it up plus do the tourist thing and see the sights. But right now I can’t imagine going back because my memories are tied with being there with her. This too shall pass and maybe I’ll get a escort and enjoy some fine Dallas tail. Just had to put it in words. The info is here and the experience makes me all willing to absorb the truth about their nature and how I’ve been conditioned to respond to them automatically.
“Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-
Hang in there, dude. Be GRATEFUL that you got out before its too late. We’re in same boat. I just did same thing (denied red flags, now see them and now getting the f@ck out!). LIke you, I canceled a flight we had and now have airline credit to fly somewhere…go somewhere you’ve always wanted to go!! Traveling on your own is fun = TOTAL FREEDOM to do WHATEVER you want without some selfish bitch whining in your ear “I wanna go HERE, I want you to buy me THAT!!!”
Anonymous42Still Feeling Raw
Great thread title! It says everything you just said using only THREE WORDS!
Lobster red are we? Been playing at the atomic test range too long? Walking real stiff and slow? Skin falling off?
Every one of us knows exactly how that feels!
Keep playing at the atomic test range and one day you’ll come out all charred and crispy!
The lesson to be learned:
Don’t play at the atomic test range…
Did the long distance thing, flew from Cali to Texas like 4 times because I thought I had a unicorn. The illusion was all mine
MGTOW are very conscious about making “rules” for other men to follow, and staunchly avoid it for good reason…. but – where women are concerned – if there is one rule to just staple to your forehead, “NEVER TRAVEL TO VISIT A WOMAN” is in the top ten.
In fact, it’s counter-intuitive because you think the gracious & generous act of booking a flight to see her will communicate how “special” she is…. but it has the reverse effect, and through no fault of your own, she starts thinking “He’ll fly 4 times to meet me? What do I need THIS guy for? I can do MUCH better than him!”
the 5 stages of grief
You said the illusion was all yours, so there really is no grief to deal with. She’s not really a disappointment. When a man puts a woman on a pedestal, he can just as easily take her off.
I have been there too, and have flown to another country to be with a woman. It’s “the grand gesture” to a man, but not to her. Just the act of doing it has the reverse effect.
You’re trying to say “you’re so special to me”.
When it hits her ears, she hears “I’m not worthy of you”.Conversely, women have asked me to take them on a trip WITH me. To which I replied “I don’t take sand to the beach”. There is no need to travel WITH a woman either. There are women over there too.
So from her perspective, when you book a full trip to see her, she unconsciously thinks your options must be severely limited where you are. We think it will elevate her perception of us in her eyes. But it doesn’t.
It’s not your fault.
It’s. Not. Your. Fault.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.However, I wasn’t able to get a refund on the room just a gift card good for up to a year. I’m thinking I will wait until right before it expires and fly back out there and live it up plus do the tourist thing and see the sights. But right now I can’t imagine going back because my memories are tied with being there with her.
F~~~ that!
I think you should go back and have a good time without her. I think it would be good for you to conquer that demon and show yourself she doesn’t effect you. Nothing to be afraid of, and there is no reason that you should feel shame at what she did to you.
If you run into her, walk right by her like you don’t even know her, and go about your merry way.
I thought I had a unicorn. The illusion was all mine. There were red flags and I own my s~~~ for not walking away and vetting her thoroughly.
I have done that as well: create stories in my own head about a woman, about us, and ignore reality. I would advise against doing that in the future.
Anonymous6Hey guys, I just had to share where I’m at right now. I’m going through the 5 stages of grief after going back to the relations~~~ plantation and getting all the experience I needed to reaffirm what I’ve read here and other place in the manosphere. Did the long distance thing, flew from Cali to Texas like 4 times because I thought I had a unicorn. The illusion was all mine. There were red flags and I own my s~~~ for not walking away and vetting her thoroughly. You know how those feelings get. So of course she pulled the rug out from under me and I was left wondering how she could fall out of “love” so easily and quickly. I have the answers now. I had reserved this room at a really nice hotel and canceled the reservation and my flight. However, I wasn’t able to get a refund on the room just a gift card good for up to a year. I’m thinking I will wait until right before it expires and fly back out there and live it up plus do the tourist thing and see the sights. But right now I can’t imagine going back because my memories are tied with being there with her. This too shall pass and maybe I’ll get a escort and enjoy some fine Dallas tail. Just had to put it in words. The info is here and the experience makes me all willing to absorb the truth about their nature and how I’ve been conditioned to respond to them automatically.
What I throw out there is that your experience will stay with you, in other words you’ll never “unsee” what you’ve been through. Your experience hurts now, but will be your biggest source of strength and power in the future. Think about it, would you rather go through life knowing or not knowing? Knowing of course! That knowledge is power and what you do with that power is 100% up to you.
flew from Cali to Texas
Oh no…not…not…TEXAS GIRLS!
Anywhere else, man. Any-f~~~ing-where else.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
Anonymous42Oh no…not…not…TEXAS GIRLS!
My only time in Texas was in route to take another flight to Utah, I could FEEL THE COLD emitting from the women at the terminal, now I know why! Thanks C.S.Trump!
Always getting answers @ mgtow.com!
Thanks KM. The advice is sage and I’m going to take it.
“Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-
Anonymous18To paraphrase one of my favorite MGTOW from Youtube (Mgtow Is Freedom):
A woman is merely a vessel. She doesn’t make you feel everything you feel being with her, talking to her, f~~~ing her, or thinking of her when she isn’t around.
All the hormonal fluctuations are happening inside you.
A man makes an error in judgment by associating the intensity, novelty, and genuineness of his emotions with her, and even more importantly giving ONE PARTICULAR WOMAN any credit for it.
She doesn’t deserve the credit. Nor is she doing anything more than being a vessel to accomodate your c~~~ and be receptive to your feelings.
Nature designed her to compliment you as a man. And vice versa.
You create the everest of a woman. When all she is is a hilltop an hour’s climb.
Therefore, MGTOW re-conditions the inner man.
Women can’t touch this.
Nature designed her to compliment you as a man. And vice versa.
I have tried to communicate that to women when they feel this incessant need to “compete” on every level…. even in their personal lives.
But as a man , if you want to communicate effectively with women, you need a good set of colorforms and a hand puppet of Oprah Winfrey. Results may vary.
You create the everest of a woman. When all she is is a hilltop an hour’s climb.
… to the highest room in the tallest tower, for an opportunity to awaken her from her slumber. In order to do so, you first need slay her fire-breathing dragon.
That’s not a metaphor, by the way.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.… to the highest room in the tallest tower, for an opportunity to awaken her from her slumber. In order to do so, you first need slay her fire-breathing dragon.
F~~~ that. It’s more fun being the dragon.
And that’s not a metaphor either.
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