Stephan Molyneux on Incel malarky

[Gravel PitParticipant]

MGTOW will eventually become a term that 10s of millions of Men will identify with to some degree.

Everything weve been saying for several years is slowly being shown true and exposed to the masses. They cant deny what is happening.

[StealthParticipant 5327]

It’s a natural process and it’s already happening. Half the guys I know under 30 regard women with extreme caution and would rather just live their own life.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[MonkParticipant 16975]

He’s modest, isn’t he?

[Gravel PitParticipant]

not sure how you mean it Monk. I tend to like Molyneux though. Hes sure enjoying the family life though lol. Some guys luck out.

He is sometimes a lil longwinded for me but I dont think he has ever thrown mgtow under the bus like J. Peterson did.

I keep up with Mokyneuxs content now.

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

I didn’t bother watching his video….

I don’t see the need for labels whether they be other peoples insults like incels or your own self inflicted labels.

LIVE YOUR LIFE…No Need to identify as MGTOW, Bachelor, Single, Divorced or WHATEVER…..Really “need” a label: why not try “human” and leave it at that?

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

More people are doing their videos in my format. Just a nice conversation with people. I love this kind of format.

About the video. Just about everything said was very spot on. It’s actually refreshing to hear it. Just as I and many others have said before, (Nikolai Tesla Comes to mind) this is exactly what everyone else was worried about so long ago when it became the norm to live the Roaring 20’s lifestyle.

The idea that women don’t like you for just you and are looking for the highest value male they can settle for needs to be made clear. In fact, this is the reason why so many men in the past saw marriage as an insult to their being.

The idea that women had to once strive to gain attention from men in a way that did not involve sex when competing for male attention was the norm at one time. Today, there is a very good reason why women would rather keep their partner count secret.

There was a thread or video posted that went into this complex matter that women too wanted to experience the same kind of life and adventure that men in the past enjoyed. Problem is, that life that they were seeing was only shared by a handful of men. The idea of a “Playboy” does not play through to its meaning. Women that did have a mind to think about this saw that the only way to level the playing field is to simply do as men have. Work. Gain Financial independence, and then live out this life. As soon as the problem of children arrived, they simply turned to giving up the children, or having to then settle down.

Birth control was the first step into making this a possibility for women. And you can’t blame them. Men do know how to have fun. Problem is, there is a price to pay with both men and women. Men are ready to accept the fact they do indeed are responsible for their own welfare in life. Women however, have not had to worry about this as men do. In fact, the biology of men make this game to his advantage. Just like men, women hit a peak. And after that peak, all they can do is to be loyal to their jobs as time goes by, that is the only security they can own. And that is their own income.

Men, don’t have the same burdens as women in the long game. Men are simply prepared to work long hours and spend their days working till the very end. And there is no real penalty for doing so if you gain into the same occupation that does not require you to do physical hard labor. Women like it or not can not function at the same rate as a man as we all know. That is never been a problem in the past. Men were always there for them to take care of them. Even in old age as long as a woman had a family or children.

The state has taken over this role. It may not be better, but at least it is still there. That is the conundrum. How do you get rid of the welfare state or Daddy Government with it now being essential to so many as there is no one there to take care of them.

Women like it or not have not grown more brash. They were always this way. However, this time, there is no penalty for longer term actions that have resulted in many women being empty nests. Since the family was often not a guarantee in the first place, this is just normal progression of events in the west.

You really can’t do anything about it from a solution standpoint. We made a system where at least on the surface, you really cannot lose. And since charity now comes in form of government handouts, at least this system has a level that women and men are comfortable with knowing that their actions are irrelevant as long as they work or at least live in a place that offers a government mandated social safety net in the form of the welfare state.

I don’t see how to change the system as he also has no idea. In fact, you have to appreciate the conundrum for what it is. We have hit a hard corner and can not back out of it. The only options now are to have a collapse of the funding of the welfare state. Or simply change the entire way of life of the nuclear family. Why? Before long, men are not going to give up any more of their tax money to pay for this bulls~~~.

But the lower end males have no reason not to since they get the first part that is access to vagina. In fact there is no reason to bother with caring about the quality of the male. Just the fact that he is there is good enough. Wonders for the low value male that never needs to really do much anymore to get a woman. And women that are in fact low value themselves no longer have to worry about their own lot in life. Simply, other things such as attraction can take place naturally. Or want in most cases.

This is a hard spin here. Do you want to give up easy access to women? Of course not. So men can’t really be asked to changed the system. And since there is no benefit to being a higher end man, and you still get the same quality of women as the man higher up, there is no reason to work to better yourself. You and the other guy are getting the same thing. There really is no difference between a high end female and a low tier one as far as your DICK is concerned, its all the same thing.

So when you add it up? What is the reason to change anything? There isn’t one. In fact, there is a real problem for women now. They are going to end up being the one’s doing all the work. What a funny change of events!

They guys on the top still get to enjoy what they have always enjoyed. Men on the bottom still do the same. And guys n between still get the same deal. Basically, the world is just fine as it is. The only diffrene is that men no longer have any illusion to the deal on the table. And women are the only ones that are still stuck doing the same thing over and over again for perpetuity.

The only thing that is left is to punish men that do not do as women say. Hence the DV laws and laws that protect women. But the problem with that? Well, sooner or later men get wise to this charade. And since women are now marketed with no value or difference from each other; there goes any reason to change the system. It’s now a Players Paradise! You don’t need to be high value. You just have to have the reputation of that. Henceforth why so many men are getting cucked today. It was inevitable.

And the idea to control men with laws and their sex drive backfired on them in a bad way. There is always other fish in the sea as they say. Take away the bonding mechanism from men and women and you either through engineering or social norms, and you see why the entire world is suffering from the mess this all caused. Well, at least in the west.

As soon as the last step takes place, and that is the absolvement of men from the financial burdens of children, and hence responsibility, this is going to come full circle. In many cases this has. Women no longer need to worry about anyone else being around to take care of their children. The state wins out as they have future tax payers. And everyone wins in this game. Minus the people who Value families and stability, low crime rate people who want a lawful society, and so many others who would prefer a safe and easy way of life. That would be everyone, but the problem of the state taking care of the children grows to be an issue as the state does not have a great track record for rearing children that will be ready to take on the responsibility of society. Hence why Females have been lobbied as a solution to the problem as they are much easier to control and get the desired output with minimal effort of the state.

The snafu comes when there is a need for men and workers of the trades. who is going to do all these hard jobs? And who is left to keep the order? We have the police for sure. But then again, this is not a free running society. In order to keep the order, you have to take away freedoms. It’s the only way to keep this game going. Hence why we have such totalitarianism from the state and the governments of late.

In fact the Islam jet set seem to understand this all to well. And its the only thing that will be left standing to preserve the order until that starts falling apart just as Christianity has in the west. So that is why a collapse is predicted. But its a collapse of freedoms. Not the government who has no problem staying relevant for a very long time.

That explains a lot of things and why they are the way they are. And as soon as men understand as many do now regardless of being Red pilled that their children are not really their own problem nor responsibly, this entire plan is going just swimmingly.

So where is the solution to all this? War. And that is why men have fought and died in so many numbers thru our entire history. Problem arises today that no one see’s any value in saving what is not theirs in he first place to have. In fact, you are better off simply pumping up and making a s~~~ load of single moms, and enjoy the tax free money of being a Drug dealer to support your income. This works fine for the bottom feeding men. Not so good with men who have aspirations of a better life through hard work and dedication. So you eventually get MGTOW out of necessity.

So that explains why the state must always take a women’s side as she is the real reason why the state has any power. Solely due to the fact that she is able to make little taxpayers of the future, or at least ensure their are jobs for the state to do from a comfortable office . The less anyone cares the larger the system grows.

The Doppelganger remains of the high value man. What is he to do? When that person see’s that there is no benefit in reproduction nor family or marriage, why change? In fact, there is simply is no reason of concern to bother to change the system.

The only peril this person has is the state putting him in jail. That would be people like Bill Cosby, Wittgenstein and a whole host of others. As long as you have a way to protect yourself, you are fine. But women can’t have that as that is still something they want a piece off. So the only option for the successful man is to not play the game as others do in the west. These men can get booty from around the world to a point and not worry about the ramifications of it as long as it does not follow them. So being a ghost at the top really does have it’s advantages compared to a Media personality.

The only way to rig the system is to make sure the system has your players inside of it. That would be the lawyers and the judges of the courts in your pocket. And to also be able to control the media that is reported. This explains why so many wanted to target the market of feminism in the past. As long as you go under the radar, you win.

You get a population reduction when needed. And a more controllable bottom end of the public. And you still get great wealth output as well. This describes what is happening in the west to a tea right now.

Once you have all these factors calculated, all you are doing is just ensuring that their is more 1% people out there, and the bulk of women simply become old poor and powerless with age and not a FOOK is given. The amount of money and welfare they are able to secure is simply good enough.

How does MGTOW FIT INTO THIS? We are left to enjoy and be at the top. We know the game. And there is no Rose colored glasses. We know that there is no Unicorn out there. And there is simply a cost to benefit ratio equation going on. Take care of the male sex drive and the need of company through sex dolls and A.I, and the occasional supply of Sexual tourism , and you get a pretty fine life in the end. She may die at the hospice. But you do so in the comfort as you choose. And as a bonus, you get to retire and enjoy your last years. And you still get Plenty of time to score if you play your cards right.

So what is left of families or children? Those that wish to partake are either going to have to understand that doing this in the west is simply not a good idea. Has a Very low rate of success. And in fact, as long as your approach it with a business mindset, you can still have at least the children you want to raise. But in a way that you can protect your assets from the state. It still has no say about your freedoms. Or the output of your en devours, but at least you win the mating game of passing on your genes. Kind of a hard selling point as you have little control of the output.

It gives you a whole entire new meaning to why men in the past chose to forgo the whole idea of family or marriage as even in the past, this was a serious problem to contend with. Makes you really appreciate why so many men were erased from history for telling the Red Pills and the truth of this situation we either choose or not choose to partake in.

Whoa.. It all makes sense. Those warnings of the Pandora’s box sure have a whole other meaning.

But what about women? What can they do about this? Not much. But they do try everyday to try to punish men for not playing THEIR GAME. It was never ours in the first place. We just had the illusion of that.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Gravel PitParticipant]

iMickey503 wrote:

Just about everything said was very spot on. It’s actually refreshing to hear it

Yes, its nice that MGTOW philosophy and logic is finally being vindicated by people that have a wider audience than just the tiny echo chamber of the manosphere. Not that molyneux is widely received, he isnt, but its obvious that this is PROGRESS. Again, not that we’re a movement, its just that is pleasant to see MGTOW vindicated by everyday logical people.

Ive been saying it and will continue to say it, once the 2020 census data is public, ITS OVER for a lot of things. You cant SPIN that data, it will be so hideous. Subsequently, it will shake the financial market into an all out DUMP and panic. A global dose of REALITY will hockey check humanity in the gut.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

The name calling and labeling has historically furthered MGTOW. The people who rail on MGTOW forget that it is men that MGOW benefits and it is men who seek truth through facts and data. It is men who will question the labels and the name calling. By virtue of a man’s curiosity to find truth, men will withhold their judgment until after they investigate MGTOW themselves. It won’t be long before the man realizes that someone from MGTOW is posting something identical that what happened to their brother, uncle, father or friend. The instances of divorce rape and failed cuckery is so great every man knows someone who suffered from a woman. Then they stop and think, understanding that MGTOW can add value to their own life and they rethink their lifestyle choices. When MGTOW started appearing on social media there was very little push-back to a negative video, now the comments explode with men voicing their opinions. Any tuber who broaches the subject of MGTOW to shame men better be prepared to face blast furnace level heat.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

FrostByte wrote:

Any tuber who broaches the subject of MGTOW to shame men better be prepared to face blast furnace level heat.

god damn right!

[EGParticipant 1851]

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3753]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Yes, its nice that MGTOW philosophy and logic is finally being vindicated by people that have a wider audience than just the tiny echo chamber of the manosphere. Not that molyneux is widely received…

Do you think he’ll be labeled as “hate speech” ? And disappear too ?

[EGParticipant 1851]

How fuucked up is it that they’ve managed to twist men’s walking away into an imminent threat. There is nothing more pacifist than walking away from hostility. Their continued pursuit is what’s hostile.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

They already called him a racist before a video he did about IQ way back… As we know, they call everyone racists …

but the accusations and shock are wearing thin. Its only a matter of time gents before actual pro male legislation is passed to protect men from injustice.

Tradcons have been winning ground. Thats positive… NOT SAYING it makes Nawalts… just saying its better than before.

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