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Hard to believe, but this piece got published a couple of days ago about someone who said it was not intentional, but still should be considered rape.
“It happened when I was a teenager,” 25-year-old Rose tells Yahoo Style UK. “I was at a party, flirting with a male friend. We went to my car to hook up.
“I had a condom on me and asked him to put it on. We were both drunk and in a dark car so I never realised that he didn’t put it on,” she continues. “In fact, I only realised when I found the unopened wrapper.”
Rose admits she was “mad” about the betrayal, which had effectively taken away her consent to the sexual intercourse. “I felt violated,” she says. “And I cut that person out of my life. I did tell my friends what happened. But we never talked about it as a form of sexual assault.”
Years later, Rose reconnected with her friend and explained why she had been so upset. (“He didn’t even remember it happening. And he was remorseful and apologetic.”) She firmly believes stealthing should be treated as rape.
“Now that I understand more about rape culture and the patriarchy, I realised it was more than just a s~~~ty thing to do. It was dangerous and disrespectful. And even though I don’t think it was done maliciously, it made me feel like my sexual safety didn’t matter.”
“I think it should be classified as rape. Rape has to do with sexual acts not being consented to. I would never have consented to unprotected sex because I wouldn’t want to run the risk of contracting a disease or becoming pregnant.”
This entire “Rape Culture” brainwashing is a license to spread hate speech with no rational acceptance that maybe it is not the mans fault. But just saying it is makes it so.
Justice……..just not there man.
Original Article on condom use she did not like
"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"
What it’s like to be a “victim” of “stealthing”?
You get an abortion. Problem solved.
Also “stealthing” isn’t a thing. It’s made up bulls~~~ in the never ending attempt by fake news to absolve women of any responsibility for anything ever.
Her friend tells her why she should be upset…..classic.
……And even though I don’t think it was done maliciously, it made me feel like my sexual safety didn’t matter.”
“I think it should be classified as rape….
How this got past an editor. ** shakes head **
"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"
Anonymous3What it’s like to be a “victim” of “stealthing”?
You get an abortion. Problem solved.
Also “stealthing” isn’t a thing. It’s made up bulls~~~ in the never ending attempt by fake news to absolve women of any responsibility for anything ever.
It’s more female projection. Women have spent decades lying about being on the pill and “accidentally” getting pregnant. Now with more men getting vasectomies or just refusing to touch them, women are projecting their bulls~~~ on men and want to complain about it.
Hard to believe
No it’s not, lol.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
To the top article. It never occurred to the bitch the man used HIS condom which he was sure was not poked with a needle.
In the article there is no mention of her getting pregnant, nor getting an STD, so I am guessing he used HIS condom.
Anonymous2I think it’s funny she had her own condoms. I bet her t~~~ smelled like a Goodyear radial haha!!
So this man should go to prison for many years because he had sex without a condom and even apologized to her for it? She couldn’t be bothered to look for herself and check that he was wearing it prior to insertion? No of course she should not be held accountable it always has to be the mans fault that she didn’t check that he was wearing the condom if it was such a concern for her at the time.
You know how absurd this is? It would be like him telling this girl she sexually assaulted him by forcing him to wear a condom because it was unnatural for him to wear it. They both need to be accountable for being drunk and horny to take 2 seconds wrap his junk up it is not a one way street.
Anonymous25And I think fake up should constitute rape
If a man would not have consented when he see’s what a woman looks like without make up, that’s rape
we can both play this game
and if a woman says she’s on the pill and then doesn’t take one after the event, that’s rape too
the man was under the influence of beer goggles too and she admits that so she raped him
There is a simple answer to this that is the girl needs to take responsibility. If she is going to open her legs and be penetrated, she first needs to check the guy is wearing a Jonny. Whilst they are both equally liable, she should have checked before he stuck it in.
Whilst they are both equally liable,
No. They are not.
Not even close.
She can take the morning after pill. She can exercise her sole “right to choose”. She can put the baby up for adoption. She can even abandon the baby in a “safe haven” and walk away scott free.
He can’t.
But he is on the hook for eighteen plus years of child support.
So no, they are not equally liable. He’s liable. She isn’t.
It’s made up bulls~~~ in the never ending attempt by fake news to absolve women of any responsibility for anything ever.
Exactly. Many women who have one-night stands do not feel like they were victimised afterwards. They only come to feel that way because people keep telling them that that’s how they’re supposed to feel.
Another reason why “rape culture” is laughable. It’s not about protecting innocent people. It’s about brainwashing women in whatever way is convenient at the time.
To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell
Anonymous0What it’s like to be a “victim” of “stealthing”?
You get an abortion. Problem solved.
Also “stealthing” isn’t a thing. It’s made up bulls~~~ in the never ending attempt by fake news to absolve women of any responsibility for anything ever.
It’s more female projection. Women have spent decades lying about being on the pill and “accidentally” getting pregnant. Now with more men getting vasectomies or just refusing to touch them, women are projecting their bulls~~~ on men and want to complain about it.
You took the words right out of my fingers brother.
My thought went to bitches putting holes in condoms or turkey-basting the contents. So common and socially acceptable is the ol missed pill gag, that it did not immediately come to mind. This surely qualifies as sexual rape which more often than not leads to wallet rape and ‘fatherly’ servitude.I would never have consented to unprotected sex because I wouldn’t want to run the risk of contracting a disease or becoming pregnant.”
Unless it was some moron you picked up. All bets are off then and protection goes out the window. A dozen or more forms of birth control and the second the right asshole appears she can’t remember how to use it? Wrong. You can always claim rape or blame it on the cucked bf. What the f~~~ ever.
Whilst they are both equally liable,
No. They are not.
Not even close.
She can take the morning after pill. She can exercise her sole “right to choose”. She can put the baby up for adoption. She can even abandon the baby in a “safe haven” and walk away scott free.
He can’t.
But he is on the hook for eighteen plus years of child support.
So no, they are not equally liable. He’s liable. She isn’t.
I get that, but that’s afterwards you are talking about, that’s another discussion. It takes 2 to tango to get her preggers. Of course after the event he has no influence on the situation, it’s in her court, the baby is inside her body. Both are equal 50/50 to get them to this place though.
I get that, but that’s afterwards you are talking about,
Which is where liability happens.
All liability is after the fact, by definition.
Of course after the event he has no influence on the situation, it’s in her court, the baby is inside her body.
And yet he is expected, and legally required to burn out his body laboring for eighteen plus years to pay for it. She isn’t.
Both are equal 50/50 to get them to this place though.
Wrong again. Compare birth control methods.
Men have three options: condoms, sterilization, abstinence.
Women have dozens of options, some of which are after the fact and many of which require little to no effort. How hard is it to remember to take a pill? Methods like norplant don’t require even that.
Meanwhile spermjacking, unlike this made up “stealthing” bulls~~~, is a real thing. A man can be completely responsible to the best of the options available to him and do everything correctly: he can use a condom, pull it off correctly, tie it off, and throw it in the trash instead of flushing it just like he’s told to do. And then the bitch can pull it from the trash and squirt the contents up herself, and now he’s on the hook for eighteen plus years of child support.
And then there are the men stuck paying child support for children that aren’t even theirs by women who they have never even had sex with, just because the bitch wrote his name down on a piece of paper.
A man can’t force a woman to have a baby. But a woman can force a man to pay for one.
So no. It’s not 50/50. It’s never 50/50.
I get that, but that’s afterwards you are talking about,
Which is where liability happens.
All liability is after the fact, by definition.
Of course after the event he has no influence on the situation, it’s in her court, the baby is inside her body.
And yet he is expected, and legally required to burn out his body laboring for eighteen plus years to pay for it. She isn’t.
Both are equal 50/50 to get them to this place though.
Wrong again. Compare birth control methods.
Men have three options: condoms, sterilization, abstinence.
Women have dozens of options, some of which are after the fact and many of which require little to no effort. How hard is it to remember to take a pill? Methods like norplant don’t require even that.
Meanwhile spermjacking, unlike this made up “stealthing” bulls~~~, is a real thing. A man can be completely responsible to the best of the options available to him and do everything correctly: he can use a condom, pull it off correctly, tie it off, and throw it in the trash instead of flushing it just like he’s told to do. And then the bitch can pull it from the trash and squirt the contents up herself, and now he’s on the hook for eighteen plus years of child support.
And then there are the men stuck paying child support for children that aren’t even theirs by women who they have never even had sex with, just because the bitch wrote his name down on a piece of paper.
A man can’t force a woman to have a baby. But a woman can force a man to pay for one.
So no. It’s not 50/50. It’s never 50/50.
Your totally missing my point. I’m referring to the conTent in the OP’s scenario, You are talking in general circumstances. This particular post is referring to the female asking the guy to put contraception on, but she is also responsible for checking he has done this, not just taking his word, or assuming.
The Consequence is another discussion and this is where men get screwed over totally if the woman decides she wants the baby and the man is left with the payments and no say if he had actually wanted her to have an abortion…
She is blaming the guy when she needs to take responsibility for her own actions, they are both equally responsible for contraception not being used.This is a misrepresentation of stealthing, as commonly understood within redpill manosphere.
As much as I’ve observed in the manosphere. ‘Stealthing’ is contributing less value to be taxed. The old proverb “you can’t get blood from a stone, is put into practice.”
The argument of when does a penis ejaculate into what orofice. Has zero to do with stealth in the manosphere. Other places of thought 2+2=5, and that’s vigorously defended.
In the manosphere I’ve yet to experience that cognative dissonance.
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu
This particular post is referring to the female asking the guy to put contraception on, but she is also responsible for checking he has done this, not just taking his word, or assuming.
But she isn’t responsible. At all. Because she doesn’t have any consequences for the act for which she doesn’t, herself, volunteer. Responsibility means accepting consequences. But with no consequences there is no responsibility.
There may be such a thing as an accidental pregnancy (though with all the contraceptive options available to women I highly doubt it) BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ACCIDENTAL BIRTH.
You keep saying she’s responsible in this situation, but I think what you mean to say is that she SHOULD be responsible. And I agree with you there. She damn well should be. She should be using her own form of birth control in addition to whatever he uses.
But SHOULD has nothing to do with it. The plain fact is she isn’t responsible. Nobody is holding her responsible. She isn’t the one who will have to pay.
She can easily check to confirm he’s wearing a condom, but he has no way of confirming she’s taken the pill. Yet our gynocentric society and its laws have absolved her of any responsibility for her reproductive choices and dumped them all onto the heads of men. There is no equality.
Anonymous0This is a misrepresentation of stealthing, as commonly understood within redpill manosphere.
As much as I’ve observed in the manosphere. ‘Stealthing’ is contributing less value to be taxed. The old proverb “you can’t get blood from a stone, is put into practice.”
I’m certain sure some c~~~ was well aware when they chose the word. If you can’t beat em, join em. If you can’t join em, appropriate their culture/vocabulary and try to change the meaning.
I would not be surprised if changing the meaning of the word stealth was not the entire motive for this article in the first place.- AuthorPosts
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