Stay or go – need advice

[ExdeathParticipant 26]

I work in software development and I’m at an impasse at the moment. I think my last job move was the worst career decision I’ve made so far. The worst part is that this was recommended by a (thot) acquaintance who worked here before – always ignore advice from women.

On my previous job I quickly learned the technologies I was working with and it became trivial after a while – this is the primary reason I left. I regret it now because there is still stuff I could have learned from there and because I was in a position of mentoring a junior colleague.

On my current job, I’m basically a glorified bug fixer. They made it sound significantly more interesting and challenging than it actually is. They have also flat out lied to me about the nature of the work.

Pros and cons of staying:
+ Good money
+ Cool colleagues
+ Very few interactions with women
+ Some learning opportunities, but not something I’m particularly interested in learning
– Very uninteresting day-to-day work
– What I’m learning here is not really useful anywhere else and anything I can learn here for that purpose, I already know
– Stressful environment due to two things:
– Huge workload, too much to do, too few people to do it.
– N-Boss has little self control and is a micromanaging bully. Shows no respect or appreciation and has a putdown ready for whenever something is done later or differently from what is expected. I usually ignore this, but now wants daily e-mail reports.

Pros and cons of leaving:
+ Most likely better money
+ Get away from bulls~~~
+ Can make a better decision about a new job with what I know now
– I don’t have more than 1 year of experience on any of my previous jobs so far, it would look bad on a CV.
– Most likely new bulls~~~, but unlikely to be worse

That is how I see it, but I’d appreciate some advice from more objective eyes. There are definitely some pros and cons I haven’t thought about.

[Anonymous 42]

Line up another job without quitting. Tell any potential employers you’re not happy with the “attitude” of the company due to key players, and nobody needs to tolerate verbal abuse. Tell them you don’t like the stress of working with people that cannot control themselves, tell them the truth. If it’s a s~~~ty place to work with lots of abuse they likely won’t hire you. You’ll still have your job while seeking a better one. If it’s a place that doesn’t tolerate assholes and they all like each other, they’ll be more than a welcoming party waiting for you!

Don’t leap across a creek without having a stone to land on before you jump.

Send out your résumé and “arrange” an appointment or interview, don’t be a desperate Dan walking in off the street! Negotiate from a position of advantage.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Full filling job?
Wtf is that?

Work ain’t life, work is a crap you do, to get money to live your life.

Soo go get the money and forget about everything else.

Challenging? Boring? Repetitive? F~~~ that s~~~.

Give me €€ I do s~~~ for you.

F~~~ the job, I do it the best I can if I have to work, but if I could retire I wold live minimalistic the rest of my life away from work, people and bulls~~~.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[JVBParticipant]

Sounds like you’re not all that happy. Like Tower said get your ducks in a row first. Be 100% sure you can move along first. Then quit but don’t!!! burn any bridges. Do it right. Good luck bro.

Peace is > piece.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Get another job first then leave.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Line up several other jobs and don’t throw your old company under the bus. ‘You’re looking to grow’ is the best reason to give for leaving. If you act disgruntled in any way the interviewer will assume you feel the same towards them when things get tough. The best time to switch jobs is when you have one. Always ask your self ‘will I fit into their culture’. It’s not just about pay. You need to be happy to some degree in any job. Interview them as much as they interview you.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

FrostByte wrote:

Line up several other jobs and don’t throw your old company under the bus. ‘You’re looking to grow’ is the best reason to give for leaving. If you act disgruntled in any way the interviewer will assume you feel the same towards them when things get tough. The best time to switch jobs is when you have one. Always ask your self ‘will I fit into their culture’. It’s not just about pay. You need to be happy to some degree in any job. Interview them as much as they interview you.

Or ‘seeking a new challenge’

And the old ‘What are your weaknesses?’ ‘Sometimes I’m a little rusty with names.’

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[OldBillParticipant]

Stay or go? Do both.

Stay while you lay the groundwork to go.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 3]

Have to agree,never run down the company you work for at an interview. Chances are they already have a reputation in the industry or the person interviewing you will judge you to be be problem.

[BoBParticipant 823]

Anonymous wrote:

Line up another job without quitting.

I totally agree with this. An exit strategy can make your current job bearable. Take your time and find that place that is really the right fit for you and then just suck it up for at least three years (as you’re worried about your CV). Find a place that is interesting, or will help pay for additional certifications or a new language. Find a place that is large (or small) enough for you to move up or sideways.

I find smaller companies to be more awesome, just know that all things (good and bad) are amplified. At a small, you may have to work more, but have a chance to wear other hats.

A large company is good as there are probably other positions for which you can compete. It may be more challenging for upward mobility. I don’t know.

If you eventually want to lead a team of developers, look into getting some certs in Agile, or Spiral or whatever. Find a place that invests in its people and you’ll find a place worth investing yourself.

My two cents.

[PrincekieParticipant 1042]

Agree with the above. Spend your free time lining up interviews for jobs that sound like they’re for you.

DO NOT SLAG OFF your current employer in ANY way. This is a HUGE red flag for recruiters. DO NOT mention that you work in a “stressful” workplace.

Even saying one little thing that criticizes your current employer is a big red flag.

Couple of recommendations. Think how you will answer your potential employers questions. Write down good answers. Read these in your car before you walk into the building. Also, always bring in a piece of paper into the interview with questions to ask at the end of the interview. It shows the recruiter that you have foresight and are well prepared.

[narwhalParticipant]

Agree that you should find a new job before leaving this one. I get the feeling that you’re relatively young, and will eventually find a place that meets your requirements.

I’m also in IT, 45, and am currently at a place that pays well, but isn’t perfect. I know enough now that I’m unlikely to find a place where the environment is any better. I’ve settled, and I’m ok with that.

Ok. Then do it.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

I have a couple friends in IT and I heard its become more stressful more high pressure in many companies with tighter margins due to competition with competitors in India where labour is cheaper for example – maybe Im wrong thats just what I heard.

When you have another job lined up I would then see if you can improve or resolve your current work situation before jumping elsewhere – if you can improve the micromanager situation maybe you wont feel you have to move so quickly (?).

It depends what you really want.. I also agree somewhat with Carnage in that in these times if you have well paid job do it for the money and save money. Many jobs are high stress these times no garauntee it will be much different elsewhere. If you feel you should move ideally best to have some else lined up first.

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