Stalkers Carrying Candy and Flowers

[Anonymous 11]

I’m very much an extrovert so I get around. Lately, I’ve been talking to females about their stalkers.

Last night I was speaking to an Ex, and she was telling me about a guy who FB stalks her. She briefly dated him 15 years ago got creeped out by him and can’t seem to shake him to this day. She never responds, and he never stops. She also told me women are crazy. I enthusiastically agreed with her MGTOW style.

I met a former bartender of mine in a grocery store parking lot last week. While I helped her load her groceries into her SUV, we spoke of my most obnoxious moment ever. This guy brought her candy and flowers while she was working her bar. She had three of her female high school friends there too. I blatantly asked her if she was going to f~~~ that guy. She told me no. Sure as hell, another guy shows up with flowers. I asked the same question with the same answer from her “No”. My buddy told me we’d see another one. Sure as s~~~, a third guy comes in with flowers. Again, I asked the same question and got the same answer “No”. We were all mocking these saps with me taking the lead. I had the whole bar laughing as I directed the conversations to even more base levels. I offended someone in the restaurant part. At my next visit, there was a curse cup named after me where we would put a quarter in for each potty word. I took it as an honor.

My pussy addict friend told me about some whore he’s banging. I warned him about female stalkers. His response: “I can control it!”. Yesterday, a week later, he tells me this slut has now latched onto him and exhibiting stalking behavior. He’s worried about his wife finding out about his chronic cheating. I’ve repeatedly told him to get a burner phone and use a fake name. He just doesn’t get the concept.

@BluePillers: Giving women candy, cards or flowers inappropriately really creeps them out. I’ve been told this by numerous women.

Blue pill is hell indeed.

[UntamedParticipant]

Hi CP

When I think back at my blue-pill days, even now, I feel like a total moron.
Then I remember what I was taught by my mom at home: (paraphrase) If your sisters hit you, that means you’ve done something wrong! Only that wasn’t true and I knew it but, as it starts so early, you are NOT allowed to question. You listen, THAT’s what you do.
Then at school, same circus. Yea, I was a little shameless s~~~head, but never in a mean or demeaning way and oh so rarely towards a girl. Yet, I was made to understand that I had done something wrong just for having two little nuts hanging there.
Doesn’t it follow not to wonder that TRYING TO PLEASE was an automatic response?

I was blind, and now I see.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Anonymous 11]

Untamed wrote:

I was blind, and now I see.

Same here Untamed. The worst I ever did was the inappropriate card thing once in my early twenties. It felt weird, and I never did it again. Guess what, it got me no results either other than being stood up for the date.

Until one goes red pill, we are prone to making mistakes like this. Red pill is an ongoing process too. I’ll date women as a red piller, because I now have the tools to handle them. I don’t speak of red pill though I act red pill with them. I’ll never get married to one though.

Sitting here admitting I speak with exs from 20 years ago and helped a former bartender of mine load her groceries does not make me look very MGTOW. In both cases, these women and I have truly reciprocal friendships. They both helped me through a relations~~~ with a borderline I had to go through four years ago, and we do not have one sided conversations solely about them. This borderline put me on the road to becoming a MGHOW.

I have to call another woman this morning about some plans we made for today. Again, she and I actually have two real two sided conversations, but no candy, flowers or cards ever for her. Of course, I’m not going to mention I spent 2 hours on the phone with an ex last night. This ex and I are only friends.

MGTOWs really do care and are decent guys which is why so many of us got burned as most women are drawn to creeps or rich guys by default. Red pill makes dealing with women much easier.

The bartender in my story did the hypergamy thing and hooked up with a wealthy business owner. I once saw him in a bar while he was out cheating on her. The shocked look in his eyes said it all. Don’t worry bro your secret is safe with me. Plus, I don’t date single moms you fool.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Untamed wrote:

When I think back at my blue-pill days, even now, I feel like a total moron.
Then I remember what I was taught by my mom at home: (paraphrase) If your sisters hit you, that means you’ve done something wrong! Only that wasn’t true and I knew it but, as it starts so early, you are NOT allowed to question. You listen, THAT’s what you do.
Then at school, same circus. Yea, I was a little shameless s~~~head, but never in a mean or demeaning way and oh so rarely towards a girl. Yet, I was made to understand that I had done something wrong just for having two little nuts hanging there.
Doesn’t it follow not to wonder that TRYING TO PLEASE was an automatic response?

I was blind, and now I see.

Same here!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[UntamedParticipant]

Taking my dose of Red Pills along with my blood pressure med, every day of the week and twice on Friday nights. It feels weird to actually have a leg up on her (don’t forgive the pun) as she realizes that getting laid isn’t first on my mind anymore and she won’t be able to use her hairy weapon. How “nice” they are to you when they know they’ve been made before a “hello”.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[kizellParticipant 368]

These are elementary principles when it comes to game.  All forms of flattery dry up the pussy very quickly.   Deep down girls know they should not be treated with that much respect.

Never open their car door

Never compliment them on their looks (their dress is fine though)

Never buy them drinks

Never buy flowers (this is the weakest of all moves)

Never ask them about their life

[FermatParticipant 3478]

I don’t have female friends. I’m not sure why but it doesnt bother me. I’ve noticed they demand a lot of time and attention to make them worth your time. I’m not sexist. I just get annoyed when they start talking because 99 percent of everything they say  goes through my subconscious red pill filter and I just stop caring. Hence the blue pill flowers and candy and card nonsense is too disgusting of an act for me to ever do again.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

If he had a fat wallet, it would have been soooo romantic

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[kizellParticipant 368]

Fermat wrote:

I don’t have female friends. I’m not sure why but it doesnt bother me. I’ve noticed they demand a lot of time and attention to make them worth your time. I’m not sexist. I just get annoyed when they start talking because 99 percent of everything they say goes through my subconscious red pill filter and I just stop caring. Hence the blue pill flowers and candy and card nonsense is too disgusting of an act for me to ever do again.

You don’t have female friends because you are smart and value your time on earth.

I also see no need in a woman friend.   I’m too much of an asshole to be friends with such a creature

[Anonymous 11]

I have female friends only on my terms which rules out 99% of women.

The rules are simple:

1) I’m not your emotional tampon
2) I’m not your orbiter
3) Expect to be treated like a guy
4) Me, me, me, me conversations don’t cut it
5) Be a bitch. I’m gone
6) Do not be vapid
7) I will spend no money on you
8) You will not use me to control your boyfriend

They generally make for very poor friends even among themselves. I’m a people oriented man, but women who are capable of being a friend are very rare. I’ve got one I’ve known for 20 years, and a new one which the jury is still out concerning her.

I just had to dispatch the omega hen in my flock this morning. The other 3 hens began to gang up and pecked her into a terrible state. She had a merciful death by .20 caliber pellet to the brain. I’ve often compared women to a flock of hens. Both can be vicious.

[RennieParticipant]

Never did the gifts stuff, always heard too many horror stories of guys who did and got the equivalent of a kick in the nuts in return. Stopped the being nice stuff a long time ago, because I only got contempt in return.

Also never apologize to them either, that turns them off big time.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Russky wrote:

If he had a fat wallet, it would have been soooo romantic

And here lies the (not so) secret of 50 shades of grey’s success.
Had the poor Christian been a construction worker, the book would have been burned at the stake by our dear wymyn.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[MyselfParticipant 353]

Anonymous wrote:

Sitting here admitting I speak with exs from 20 years ago and helped a former bartender of mine load her groceries does not make me look very MGTOW.

I really don’t see that at all.  In fact, I think it’s fantastic and very MGTOW.  Going my own way has never involved putting up walls and isolating myself from the world or women, and it has never involved not helping someone or not lending a hand.  I enjoy talking with smart men and women.  I’ll hold the door open for anyone if I feel like it, and otherwise be of assistance whenever I feel so inclined.

Anonymous wrote:

The rules are simple: …

Exactly. Once you know what the rules are, the key is to approach people positively and give them the benefit of the doubt.  No need to worry or stress about the fact that the majority of the time the people you meet will say or do something eventually (and often immediately) that erodes the initial trust you afforded them.  It costs nothing to keep an open mind and every once in a while you will meet good, interesting people. And it doesn’t matter what sex they happen to be, because part of what makes them good and interesting is that they aren’t trying to manipulate their way into your pants or wallet.  And as soon as they stop being good or interesting you can easily part ways, because being on your own path provides the clarity of mind to see that the relationship has changed and the will required to move on.

 

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