Son…are you gay

[nopeParticipant 11]

Got this question from my dad yesterday at familly diner. I choked on my sip of wine. I answered no(which is true). He than tells me ‘you’re 22 and I haven’t seen any woman in this house for a longtime, I was just wondering.’

It is true im not good with woman. Last time I had anything sexual was more than a year ago and would be a bit ashamed if my friend had a picture of her.
I do sometimes feel lonely and has an industrial mecanic I don’t meet a lot of girls or am considered the rich mercedes big house guy. It’s a bit hard to date when you always have dirt stuffed under your fingernails. I look foward to my thirties to have a bit of female attention but at the same time feel like i’m missing out on my twenties not seing any girls, not having one night stand, f~~~ friends etc. I do read a lot of mgtow stuff and it goes against the faqs that I do want some relationships with woman.

I’m confused and don’t know what to do

[RoyDalParticipant]

“Well, dad, as it happens I had invited Miss Right to this family dinner. She ran off with a drug dealing biker gang, and too bad about that. If her parole officer lets her, I can get her out for Thanksgiving or Christmas (not both) on a half-day pass. So what do ya say, dad?”

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Live you life and go your own way.

Act only in your own enlightened self interest.

In so far as women. At your age they cost time and money. A lot of time and money. Is running yourself broke worth the effort?

It would be far cheaper to save some money and hire a prostitute.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[OldscoundrellParticipant 412]

nope wrote:

I do read a lot of mgtow stuff and it goes against the faqs that I do want some relationships with woman.

A magority of the mgtow philosophy is centered around the VALUE of women. What you get for what you give. So even if you decide not to practice it, remember it. Because the red flags and s~~~ test knowledge alone can significantly reduce the amount of manipulation you let weemin dish out to you.

That being said, I can relate with ya, I had an ugly duckling stage not too long after puberty. Work out and take care of your body, do this for yourself. And I am in a dirty job also. But after hours, I make up for it by dressing and grooming well. This goes a long way to keep your self image intact.

As for the one nighters and fk buddys. Its usually a trap. Relationship wise, it will cost you. Just don’t cheap out and get one of off the clearance rack, they are marked down because they are crazy.

Best of luck.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

nope wrote:

I’m confused and don’t know what to do

Man that’s NORMAL. I have actually said this out loud a few times: “I wouldn’t want to be 22 again” —- in this current social climate. It’s brutal. And don’t forget, the system is designed to have you constantly feeling insecure. About being alone. About being a virgin. About continuing to have sex even after you’re not longer a virgin. About being muscular. About going bald. The world WANTS you insecure about all of that s~~~.

But there is a VERY bright side. You’re ONLY 22. Yessir. ONLY.

You can come back at your Dad and say quite casually: ” A man shouldn’t even THINK about having a girlfriend until he is at least 26 or well on his way to achieving his dreams”. You’ve heard the expression “women are dream killers”? Well, that’s not bulls~~~. Let her have her way and shell be knocked up by Christmas and you’ll be married with 216 monthly payments ahead of you. But what if you could take those 4 years of child support payments and PAY YOURSELF first instead? Imagine the chunk of change you will have at 26. A nice little start.

Plenty of successful men would give you the same advice:
/video/women-over-the-hill/

You can’t see the future yet. You have NO IDEA of the potential and promise that lay before you right now. Don’t f~~~ it up.

You have 22 reasons to jump up and down with joy and excitement right now.
Have a SPECTACULAR day.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 3]

There is nothing you are missing out on. Whatever you are looking for in women, you are not going to find it. Look around you, look around here, look at the men who have been through the grinder themselves and survived. They didn’t get it, whatever the it may be, from women.

Women are the ones missing out. They’re missing out on you. You are the prize.

When the young man is at the age where he has genuine appreciation for the woman’s attention, she doesn’t want him. She instead chases after the unattainable: The one who doesn’t give a damn about her, the one who treats her with indifference, the one who pumps and dumps her. Why do you seek attention from these creatures? What does it prove to you?

There are two types of (visible) men to women.
1. The ones that they cheat with
2. The ones that they cheat on

The former ones are just walking dildos. How long does it take for you to wank one out? A minute or two and you’re done. When you have sex with a woman, you spend 5 minutes licking her tuna sewer, another 10 minutes being a dildo machine, thinking about grandma so you don’t blow prematurely, and then finally have your 10 seconds of pleasure. What exactly are you getting? You’ve actually lost here.

You say you want relationships. That automatically puts you in the second camp of visible men. Again, just why? This is even worse. You’re losing even more here.

The only thing you are really missing out on, is the same thing every man on this planet is missing out on, and that is that every one of us has to earn their right to be a man in this society, by becoming an utility to something or someone, and spending a massive chuck of our youth(Some their entire life) doing so. F~~~ that s~~~. You ARE a man, regardless of whether you get laid 0 time, 100 times, or 1000 times, regardless of whether you are homeless or living in a mansion penthouse.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

Had a similar problem before I made the mistake of getting married. Almost 20 years ago, everyone I worked with began to think I was gay because I was in my mid to late 20’s, was never married, no kids and I didn’t have a woman calling me at work or meeting me out when I would go out with the co-workers after work. They also knew that I was single and a few asked me if I was gay. At first I thought it was funny especially when the guys would ask. I would say something smart like, “Why are you available?” but after awhile it got old. It seems that when you take the path least traveled, people feel that something isn’t right. Stay the course. Don’t make the mistake that I did which was getting married and “Yes” I felt pressured to at least get a girl friend (which I did) and I married her almost 2 years later. I did it because I was afraid my co-workers would think that I was gay. Please don’t let others pressure you in that way.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Mr. Spock wrote:

They also knew that I was single and a few asked me if I was gay. At first I thought it was funny especially when the guys would ask. I would say something smart like, “Why are you available?” but after awhile it got old.

I have a stock response for that:

“Well I could certainly be gay long enough for YOU to blow me.”

Suddenly the very same assholes who thought it was funny and fun to jab you aren’t laughing anymore. But now YOU are.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

ONLY 22! Stay around here for a while and you’ll gain the wisdom of 122! You’re like a sword fresh out of the fire! malleable to suite your own future!
Keep women away from the forging process, they’ll contaminate your cauldron with their endless impurities, and in the process you’ll be casting flaws into your life!

[nopeParticipant 11]

I do concentrate my effort towards my well being, work hard put money into savings etc. Still maybe it’s my age but I feel like I need someone to snuggle with have good sex. Cause i feel like i’m never gonna have any anytime soon.

[OldBillParticipant]

nope wrote:

He than tells me ‘you’re 22 and I haven’t seen any woman in this house for a longtime, I was just wondering.’

“Well, Dad, I haven’t meant any women worth bringing home in the long time.” There’s you answer and the best part about it is that it’s true. It’s also the answer I gave my parents when they hinted around with a similar question.

It is true im not good with woman.

No one is. Sure, some guys have systems they follow or an intuitive knack, but no man is really good with women over a long period of time. Dealing with women is like juggling snakes; sooner or later and no matter how careful you are, you’re going to get bit. It’s part of the job.

I do read a lot of mgtow stuff and it goes against the faqs that I do want some relationships with woman.

MGTOW isn’t solely about celibacy or avoiding women at all costs. MGTOW is about putting you, your needs, and your improvement FIRST in you life. MGTOW is about meeting life on your own terms and for your own reasons. This “You are your own means to your own end” mindset is an important, yet subtle, difference between MGTOW and the various PUA “movments”. Let me explain.

Many involved in PUA improve themselves with the primary goal of f~~~ing more women. Men involved in MGTOW improve themselves because self improvement is a worthwhile goal in and of itself. Self improvement can and does lead to f~~~ing more women, but with MGTOW that is a merely side effect and not the primary goal. (You’ll notice that the more thoughtful men in the PUA community are now branding their efforts as “male self improvement” or MSI.)

You are worthy of self improvement for no other reason than improving yourself. You needn’t “excuse” any work towards self improvement by claiming your goal is about getting laid, being a better husband, or any of the other s~~~ women and society demand. You improve yourself because you are worth improving. Improve yourself and you’ll find that all the other things will start coming your way. Believe me, when those worthless, self absorbed c~~~s start noticing you’re a self assured man who has got his s~~~ together, they’ll start circling you like buzzards over roadkill. When that happens, it will become your choice as to whether or not you f~~~ them and under what terms.

That’s what MGOW is all about. It returns control of your life to you.

I’m confused and don’t know what to do

Welcome to real world and enjoy your stay.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

Think about it like this Bud, every time you think about being in a relations~~~?, think about that awesome paycheck of yours being handed over to either your wife or girlfriend, or fiancee. Yeah, let that sink in for awhile.

I wish I was 22 again, Boy would I change a few chapters in My Book!. You’re at a great age, save your money, invest in some property later on, and go traveling and do WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, WHEN YOU WANT TO!. Think of being Single as a passport to go wherever you want, and do whatever you desire. I know sometimes it’s rough, The Old Man questioning your Sexuality, You see Your friend holding hands with His girl, looking on social media seeing someone getting married or starting a new relationship.

However deep down?, those guys are absolutely miserable!. Why?, because they can’t go drinking with their buddies till 3am, they can’t just decide on a whim to go catch a 10pm flick at the Movie Theater, They constantly need either “Check up”, or “can’t stay out too late”. YOU CAN!. You got a Job, You got Youth, You have a Single Life. Bro, trust me, take advantage of that s~~~ like a 100 dollar bill on the ground, and no one is around!, (that sort of rhymed).

And If You Do just so happen to meet a girl, set the rules straight with Her and tell Her “I’m in this ride called life, you wanna tag along that’s fine, but i ain’t stopping, or putting aside my hopes and my dreams on account of you, besides that, you can come with, but don’t control me, or tell me what’s best for me, or how to act or dress”.

In the mean time, keep kickin ass!, make that money, save it, and fulfill Your dreams!.

-Deus Ex Machina

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

nope wrote:

I’m confused and don’t know what to do

Ask him this: “Dad, have you SEEN the women my age? If I were gay I wouldn’t still be single.”

If that doesn’t get him off your back, nothing will, because it means he one of those “you must have a woman at any price” pussy worshiping fools. And the opinions of people like that are not worth your time.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

Women are the ones missing out. They’re missing out on you. You are the prize.

When you get to be late 20s/early 30s or beyond, this could not be more true. As women’s looks start to fade and they realize they are being replaced by a younger, hotter generation they all go into marriage/baby rabies mode. They end up past their prime and desperate for a decent guy that wants them for more than a pump and dump(even though for the past 10-15 years they enjoyed being a cum dumpster).

As a man on the other hand…if you spent your 20s getting your s~~~ together and taking good care of your body, you are the one these women will be flocking too.

So just picture your life in 10 years…you got a good career, kept in shape, have some good friends, some hobbies, your own place, and some money invested for your future. Meanwhile the average woman your age will be broke, overweight, probably have a kid, and a s~~~ty job. Are you going to be viewing her as a prize, or is she going to be viewing you as a prize…because I’m 31 and I can tell you from experience I find most women around my age to be absolutely repulsive and I’d rather be celibate than touch them. I’d much rather be hunting in the 25-27 range than the 30-33 range, and women in that younger age range will definitely be interested in you still.

[Anonymous 9]

I would have asked the same thing if I was pops.

At that age, you’re supposed to have chicks in and out like clockwork.

Way too young to be going your own way imo. You have to f~~~ around a little bit.

Plus, I disagree with a post above on chicks being expensive at that age. S~~~, that’s the age when they’re giving up the ass for free almost. All it takes is a dinner and some alcohol and you’re in there.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

I would have asked the same thing if I was pops.
At that age, you’re supposed to have chicks in and out like clockwork.

Well chick aren’t supposed to be psychotic freaks who lie and say you “raped” them after texting you “f~~~ me in the butt” …. and then drag a mattress around campus all year.

https://reason.com/blog/2015/04/24/student-accused-of-rape-by-mattress-girl

Asking your son “are you gay” is just stupid in the face of s~~~ like that.

NO DAD,. I’M NOT, ACTUALLY. I AM JUST NOT INTERESTED IN PSYCHOTIC F~~~ING FREAK BITCHES – OR GOING TO JAIL. DO YOU MIND??? DAD?? AS A MATTER OF FACT — DAD — I DONT GIVE A S~~~ IF YOU THINK IM A F~~ OR NOT. ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THAT S~~~.

There is a REASON young guys that age aren’t interested in having “chicks in and out like clockwork”.
And it’s not because they are “gay”.

Anonymous wrote:

All it takes is a dinner and some alcohol and you’re in there.

WHAT?? All it takes is some alcohol and the law says a woman can’t even GIVE CONSENT,. because she’s a f~~~ing toddler.

Are you interested in your son’s best interests… or are you not?
When I was “my sons age”…… women were – at least – still good for ONE thing.

It’s time for men to stop asking “son are you gay?” and starting telling them to “stay the f~~~ away from those good for nothing bitches”. Buy him a whore who will happily suck his dick for $50. That would be doing him a FAVOR.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Anonymous wrote:

Way too young to be going your own way imo. You have to f~~~ around a little bit.

This is just absurd. Seriously, this is so far off base & out in left field, it’s ridiculous.

It is never too young for a man to go his own way, and whether he f~~~s or not, doesn’t change him going his on way. Unless of course he opts for f~~~ing & really didn’t want to, and vice versa. Then he is going the opposite of the way he truly wanted to go.

[Anonymous 9]

Different times call for different measures.

I’m glad I never thought like that coming up, and found joy in chasing the tail for a little bit.

It made me wiser.

Lol…@keymaster that post was hilarious man…lol.

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