Something I've found useful

[Anonymous 25]

I’ve been off doing my own thing lately and just thought I would share a couple of things I’ve found useful.

The site definition of ‘mgtow’ best sums it up for me in the line “living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.”

The begs the question of what are a man’s best interests. The latest scientific research in psychology suggests that we have certain basic needs (beyond food, shelter etc) and these are called ‘human givens’.

These basic emotional needs that we are programmed for are:
:
•Security — safe territory and an environment which allows us to develop fully
•Attention (to give and receive it) — a form of nutrition
•Sense of autonomy and control — having volition to make responsible choices
•Emotional intimacy — to know that at least one other person accepts us totally for who we are, “warts ‘n’ all”
•Feeling part of a wider community
•Privacy — opportunity to reflect and consolidate experience
•Sense of status within social groupings
•Sense of competence and achievement
•Meaning and purpose — which come from being stretched in what we do and think.

This is more precise than Maslow’s and they are based on scientific research.

This does seem to work. Taking a couple of examples, why get married as it doesn’t meet any of the above needs for a man. Being around toxic women is a society where there are corrupt gynocentric laws doesn’t meet the need for security. Helping other men such as Mayor of Mgtown helping the homeless fulfils the need for feeling part of a wider community. I’m focusing on my own needs in a way that helps other men meet their own needs. It works for me.

This may be why AVFM and MRA doesn’t work as it involves arguing with women and feminists and the needs that end up getting met are the needs for attention of the women so that reinforces their crazy behaviour and encourages it. I choose to ignore them – my needs get met and I don’t care about their needs. Plus the women go psycho at MRA/AVFM so it’s not exactly meeting the need for security as you would make yourself a target for Princess Psychopath and her band of Sociopathic Sisters.

I’ve also discovered another female manipulation tactic, which explains why women cause drama. Doing that is a deliberate female manipulation tactic, because it produces ‘caetextia’ which is context blindness. When a person becomes emotionally aroused it shuts down the parallel processing part of the brain and results in straight line thinking. You can’t see the bigger picture and you become susceptible to manipulation. Awareness of that tactic really helps. This is likely why women are such drama queens and love to create conflict.

Just a few things that I’ve found useful and that work for me. This is mgtow and we’re each going our own way, so I’m not telling anyone else how to do it. If you find it useful great and I’m open to more insights.

I know there has been talk on these forums about aspergers quite a bit. The latest research suggests that what is labelled as Aspergers is actually caetextia, which is when the brain gets stuck in black and white thinking and can’t see the bigger picture context. This can be permanent in some people, but we all become temporarily caetextic when highly emotionally aroused.

Anyone interested in learning more, a book called ‘Human Givens’ by Tyrell and someone else is well worth a read. It comes up on amazon if you search ‘human givens’.

I’m back off to meeting my own needs in the real world now and doing mgtow my own way, hope some may find it useful. I think the insight that women use caetextia as a form of manipulation is particularly useful to be consciously aware of.

Another insight is that some women are right brain caetextic. This results in women whose emotions are not grounded by the left logical hemisphere. This is quite common and it is female aspergers (it’s far more common in women that male aspergers is).

People who meet the needs referred to above will be psychologically healthy. People who don’t meet their own needs may show signs of greed, vanity and self obsession. These people are likely psychologically damaged and may be dangerous to be around. Vanity, greed and self obsession sounds like most modern women.

[stopmockingmanParticipant 441]

Good read here. All men need to find their own way, no one is like another- that said I generally like my own space and dislike a lot of social interaction, too much politics, pecking order in the hen house so to speak. I like to stay away from socials. And it is definite that some women are neurotic psycho haters of men. There is a lot of mental illness in the world, and staying emotionally balanced is finding one’s own way, to manhood so to speak.
Cheers bros.

[bachelor4goodParticipant 170]

As I love to listen to good music in the background while reading, the radio got my attention. Sure it might be a coincidence but nonetheless I like to share this well rounded tune with you. Listening to music is always the better choice then to put up with that nonsense most people are blabbering.

Great analysis by the way! Definitely useful considerations.

IDGAF

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

I too have been away for a while, wrapping things up before the winter comes. I’ve been working hard, but I have to tell you, you have a point. I could see my productivity being double during the days when I could make all the decisions myself and was left alone to do what I had to do.
Trying to accommodate people just to keep the peace is not only a waste of time, but it eats at you from the inside and take your energy away.

My point is, men have always been very productive and have always done things for others and shared the fruits of their labor. That was because they had a choice to do it. Now, we can see men (including myself) becoming less productive and less willing to share/help just because it’s expected and in many cases dictated by LAW. When it’s no longer our choice, we will stop, or slow down considerably, even if we don’t want to. It’s like you said, we’re not getting all those needs satisfied and thus we loose the incentives to do more.

Just, don’t get married and GYOW!

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

“MGTOW is to avoid Princess Psychopath and her band of Sociopathic Sisters”

Good choice of words, Machiavelli.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Wow Machiavelli, that was very much inspiring thank you for sharing this one, excellent..!

Especially those points you raised really caught my eye –>

Anonymous wrote:

These basic emotional needs that we are programmed for are:

•Security — safe territory and an environment which allows us to develop fully
•Attention (to give and receive it) — a form of nutrition
•Sense of autonomy and control — having volition to make responsible choices
•Emotional intimacy — to know that at least one other person accepts us totally for who we are, “warts ‘n’ all”
•Feeling part of a wider community
•Privacy — opportunity to reflect and consolidate experience
•Sense of status within social groupings
•Sense of competence and achievement
•Meaning and purpose — which come from being stretched in what we do and think.

And yes the very fact that nowadays most of us within this our community are striving to achieve these goals by going our own way individually and after all the whole purpose of which still is to improve ourselves in the end is actually a very legit right for us to do so. Therefore it can’t be emphasized often enough every now and then if you asked me. I mean all initial anger and red pill rage aside which eventually dies down anyway and is ideally being replaced by calmness (some men reaching that benefiting effect sooner others later, but well …) we all are in fact way more than just a bunch of frustrated idiots and the eventually kicking in calmness of us once we are able to develop the proverbial thick skin is to be the very walking proof of exactly that…

Now at this point let me add another few bits and bobs from my own findings, Mac like you requested.

Anonymous wrote:

If you find it useful great and I’m open to more insights.

So here we go let’s start with this quote of yours –>

Anonymous wrote:

I’ve also discovered another female manipulation tactic, which explains why women cause drama. Doing that is a deliberate female manipulation tactic, because it produces ‘caetextia’ which is context blindness. When a person becomes emotionally aroused it shuts down the parallel processing part of the brain and results in straight line thinking. You can’t see the bigger picture and you become susceptible to manipulation. Awareness of that tactic really helps.

Ok now, having stepped back a bit myself to see the bigger picture of this specific aspect led me to think as follows:

It appears that nowadays gynocentric society (caused in part by women’s “freedom” to hump and dump every and any man in general without fearing any consequence on the one hand and by modern women being utterly spoiled for choice at their “finger-tip-swipes” when it comes to pairing up which could well be described as kindof the “tinderella-effect” on the other hand) has somehow triggered women to believe that today’s men are no longer supposed to feel any (permanent) comfort in any relationship whatsoever at any given time (so women cause drama at will), unless of course as a man you happen to end up with the mystical but virtually non-existent NAWALT or unicorn. So is it all too surprising really that in the end a rising number of men are waking up to this and ultimately give up their search for such a mystical creature and again the very de-masculting culture as in “we are a generation of men raised by women…” (thanx again “Fight Club”) brought up by women is to a large part to blame for that, so again women have also brought that one up on themselves hence the saying : “You have created the very monster you never liked to have…” which is us, now deal with it.

As my final verdict on this whole matter I’d like to (again) propose (like I did in a previous one of my threads the “Which society would we like to live in”-one) to increasingly focus on all of our self improvement issues and do our best to think positive (and calm and creative) at least every now and then and to come up with new ideas for achieving this now wouldn’t you agree with this gents (this proposal of mine I would mostly address to the more seasoned mgtows of this forum)..?

But anyway, thank you very much Machiavelli for having done some research, lifting my hat for you, man…!

Our ongoing exchange here is and remains vital to our very existence, which should be a reasonable and valid point.
Now, think about this very last phrase of mine and let it really sink in.

Best to you all

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Jblze99Participant 6]

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