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I think it was last year that I read a book called “Worthless” by Aaron Clarey and that book made me understand the landscape of how corrupt going to school can be in general. Very few majors are actually worth getting into. specifically the STEM(science,technology,engineering,math) majors are the majors that are ideally the golden standard worth getting into also. The book even suggested that you should take a trade because opportunities for many trades are good because it is much more affordable to get into the trades than going at it with doing a major and you can even make more than a non-stem major too.
Now it is about over a year now that I have been practicing prep cooking and I can really see myself working hard to be very proficient in it. As of right now also, I can actually slice bell peppers really fast doing it the way Chef Ramsay suggest to do them even. I have literally watched many youtube videos and even have a really good knifing skills book to learn that prep cooking craft.
Here is the thing though, I wasn’t a natural at being a prep cook, but after doing it for so long, I sort of grew to love prep cooking in general and I even see myself working hard to be an exceptional prep cook since I still think I can prep cook even faster. It is just that I do not have too many opportunities to prep cook since I only do it for one house hold now compared to doing it professionally.
So my word of advice to you guys is that you might not like to let’s say wash dishes, but as soon as you work at it and develop more faster ways to wash a lot of dishes in general, you might just grow to like it. But once you like it, you might actually be willing to put in the work to do it more efficiently and and faster because of the joy that you have in doing it that you have developed all this time. Who knows, maybe you would not mind being a dishwasher even if the job involves only washing dishes manually at least.
Here is the thing, once you find out what you like to do, weather it is programming, or prep cooking or even cooking in general, even if you are in a bad marriage, you will always be happy knowing that you are doing something in your life 20-40 hours a week that you might actually have a lot of joy in doing. The best part is that I do not really think it is really competitive to be a prep cook than let’s say a cook, because the prep cooking job is an entry level job that can lead to an actual line cook job let’s say. One reason why I do not want to be a line cook though is because I do not like the stress involved in being a line cook compared to being a prep cook as a whole.
With not many job opportunities out there and the fact that lots of university majors is a scam, you you find something that you like to do that has a lot of opportunities in it in the work force, you might not be that high in terms of money, but you will be rich in terms of spirit, because if you find something that you like doing, who gives a cr*p about what people think of you in this declining society. If you like programming though and you are good at it, you can really have a comfortable living doing what you like which is a plus though. But for a guy like me, any job is better than no job at all. I might even volunteer for a month in food prep just to get some experience if I have to if it means I would have more opportunities to develop my craft.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
p.s. I know that dish washing is a bad example, but just wanted to make a point.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Its reassuring to see from multiple sources that STEM is a stable and growing field to go into. I’ve always dreamed of being an evil scientist and concocting my own experiments.
“Worthless” is an excellent book (although I have a quibble or two about its copy editing). Its main point is that there will always be a good living for men who can do things. For one example, it is impossible for a woman on the phone in Mumbai to fix your leaking plumbing.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
It doesnt matter what job you do or even how much you make really. Its more about saving than anything. Spend less than you earn and invest the remainder. That is the simple path to wealth.
Also I have been teaching myself plumbing lately. My friend bought a house and I installed a bathroom sink and toilet. Not that difficult and now I could install one for some c~~~ and charge her.
Hey, apprentice electrician here.
Trades f~~~ing rock. I knew since the day I graduated that trades would be the way to go. I researched that s~~~, and the millionaires of the future are the ones who put their hands to work. I originally wanted to be an office worker, just because I can type fast. F~~~ that s~~~!
Today I built an organizer for pipe fittings and other things. We’ve been needing one at work, and now that it will be easier to get what I need, I’ll be much more into what I’m doing. Not only that, my boss knows we need something like that, and he’s gonna be impressed that I took the time on a weekend to make it. OP is right!
Brother, we need to stick together.
It doesnt matter what job you do or even how much you make really. Its more about saving than anything. Spend less than you earn and invest the remainder. That is the simple path to wealth.
True. I was a librarian before I retired with a salary equivalent to about an elementary school teacher. However, I have always been single and lived below my salary and invested the excess in stocks. Today I am sitting pretty.
Hello @Enjoy The Decline, it’s good to hear someone from the same line. =D
From what you’d said about work is mostly true, either you had an obsession or you grow into it.
However, I’m trying to sail to STEM even though we’re on the same boat.
Meh..
Anonymous3I don’t completely agree with the premise of the opening post.
Some thoughts:
1. I don’t accept that STEM subjects are always inherently harder than non-STEM subjects. Academic difficulty is largely relative to the individual. I find traditional academic things like science, maths, history, languages, law (my subject) fairly easy to learn, but I would struggle with something like fine art, music or dance.
2. If you want to advance your education, just study whatever you want to study. Education has a value in its own right, independent of any immediate job or career opportunities/economic benefits it might bring. College/university can also be hell if you are studying a subject you don’t want to. Why put yourself through that? For what purpose? You’re not here to prove anything. You’re here for you.
3. In my opinion, telling people to study STEM subjects to improve their job prospects is bad advice. You are more likely to create a good impression on future employers if you have excelled at a subject you enjoy and are good at, even if it isn’t very rigorous or challenging or even particularly relevant to the job or career you have applied for. Employers generally don’t like candidates who have struggled to an average performance in a subject, even if it was more difficult and challenging. Is this fair? Not always, but put yourself in the employer’s shoes – they have to sift through candidates and make a decision. Don’t take subjects out of some misguided sense of obligation to prove you are ‘clever’ or a ‘manly man’ or other nonsense. That’s stupid. Just study what you want. That way, you will do well and opportunities will present themselves.
4. Personally, when I went to university, I took a difficult, career-relevant subject as that benefited me, however I think subject choice should depend on what your aspirations are and what suits you. I would have enjoyed history better, but I lacked anybody to give me guidance about university and what happens there and the opportunities for history graduates. I also lacked personal confidence. In hindsight, I can now see there were and are lots of solid jobs/careers relevant to a liberal arts education (i.e. history, languages, politics, area studies). For many of these jobs, a STEM degree would be less relevant, maybe even disadvantageous.
5. I also don’t accept that a STEM degree is necessary for a STEM-related career. A history graduate can be as good at computer programming or mechanical engineering as a computer science or engineering graduate, and might have better skills. I remember when I was younger, most of the top companies would recruit for technical positions based on the prestige of the university and the grades attained, regardless of subject. So a history graduate from a top university would often be preferred for a computer programming job over a computer science graduate of a mediocre institution. That might not be so much the case now, but I do think that a liberal arts degree has the advantage of keeping your options open. With the benefits of a liberal/classical education behind you, it’s always possible to then learn a STEM or trade career while working in it and maybe taking part-time courses. Your liberal arts degree will still be useful as it can be mentioned on your CV if and when you apply for management posts or want to switch into a different field.
6. Also, if MGTOW want to make things better for men generally, then we should be encouraging men who have the aptitude to go into liberal arts subjects – especially the social sciences – and enter academic posts and other influential positions, as it is these subjects that influence policy, which will in turn help shape things in the future in a way that benefits men. We shouldn’t just leave these fields open to women. That would be a mistake.
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