Some thoughts on MRA versus MGTOW

[Anonymous 3]

I’m copying here some of my thoughts on a different thread about the differences in the perspectives of MRAs and MGTOWs respectively.

I hope this helps in bringing clarity to the issue, however I don’t pretend to have a full understanding of things. Like most people here, my understanding is still developing.

MRA is probably a stage that some men will have to go through prior to MGTOW, just like I have gone through certain political ideologies and philosophies before arriving at MGTOW. It’s a process of awareness.

However, I don’t have much sympathy with MRAs. Yes, some of their demands are obviously justified and have their place – I do sympathise with men individually – but even then MRA activities are counter-productive in that they just reinforce a gynocentric perspective.

MRAs can also be just as obnoxious, illogical and stupid as feminists. I find I agree with the comment that I think someone made earlier in this thread: that the male equivalent of feminism is not MGTOW, but the Men’s Rights Movement.

MGTOW in the true sense involves walking away. I am only just starting to appreciate this properly, due to some life experiences I have had recently which I may relate on another thread if I have the time. I thought I knew what MGTOW was about, but I didn’t. I think I am now beginning to understand. The point is, MGTOW isn’t something you can fully learn in a book. It’s not a flat pack belief system or ideology. it’s more something you have to reflect on and grow into.

MRAs are the human equivalent of animal welfare societies, and in their more militant form, MRAs also resemble animal rights activists.

MGTOW, on the other hand, is analogous to animal liberation.

The difference is that the ‘human welfare’ and ‘human rights’ people who exist in this context, i.e. MRAs, want men to be f~~~ed over in a way that doesn’t look so unfair, while MGTOWs, being for ‘human liberation’, refuse to play the game in the first place.

MRAs want ‘rights’, which are legal things that have to be granted to you.

MGTOW want liberties, which are things that cannot be granted to you because they pre-exist. You have them if you want them. In so far as MGTOW favour ‘rights’ at all, it is the simple right to exercise what we have had all along. Human liberation, in the true sense, simply means the restoration of ordinary liberties: i.e. a normal life.

[Anonymous 42]

MRA’s are condemned by law seeking justice in a court of law.

MGTOW cut the b~~~~ off everything and let it bleed out while he walks away.

(MRA) Hey MGTOW, don’t throw that monkey wrench into the machinery that’s eating all the men, we can FIX IT!

(MGTOW) <toss> BANG, CRUNCH, BASH, CRACK, BOOM!

(MRA) How can you do that? What are you trying to accomplish MGTOW?

(MGTOW) I’m not trying to accomplish anything! I’m sick and f~~~ing tired of this useless wrench dinging into my hip so I tossed it!

Sue me!

[Anonymous 3]

Anonymous wrote:

MRA’s are condemned by law seeking justice in a court of law.

MGTOW cut the b~~~~ off everything and let it bleed out while he walks away.

(MRA) Hey MGTOW, don’t throw that monkey wrench into the machinery that’s eating all the men, we can FIX IT!

(MGTOW) <toss> BANG, CRUNCH, BASH, CRACK, BOOM!

(MRA) How can you do that? What are you trying to accomplish MGTOW?

(MGTOW) I’m not trying to accomplish anything! I’m sick and f~~~ing tired of this useless wrench dinging into my hip so I tossed it!

Sue me!

Exactly, that’s the beauty of it. There’s literally nothing they can do – especially if you’re self-employed.

[Anonymous 2]

Anonymous wrote:

MRA’s are condemned by law seeking justice in a court of law.

MGTOW cut the b~~~~ off everything and let it bleed out while he walks away.

(MRA) Hey MGTOW, don’t throw that monkey wrench into the machinery that’s eating all the men, we can FIX IT!

(MGTOW) <toss> BANG, CRUNCH, BASH, CRACK, BOOM!

(MRA) How can you do that? What are you trying to accomplish MGTOW?

(MGTOW) I’m not trying to accomplish anything! I’m sick and f~~~ing tired of this useless wrench dinging into my hip so I tossed it!

Sue me!

I said basically the same thing in another thread. MRAs are basically the slaves begging the gynocentric system to let them off the plantation and treat them fairly. The fact that they think that a system that is reliant upon them being treated as disposables to survive would ever treat them fairly is delusional. That is why MGTOW is more effective. We refuse to be gears in the gynocentric machine and throw a wrench in it instead. If I don’t allow the gynocentric system to use my money and resources to support it, I throw a wrench in its ability to sustain itself. The more men that follow that path, the more difficult it becomes for the gynocentric system to keep operating. If enough men walk away, it will collapse from no longer being able to support itself. It relies on the money and resources of men to support women. If men walk away from a system based on laws that give their money and resources to women, then the system will fail.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

Agreed MRA is liking passing into a hurricane, you can’t change people en masses you can only change how you react to them.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

I agree that MRAs can be quite a pain at times but let’s not forget we share the same woes.

There are some truly inspiring and mind-blowing achievements on that side. And I think MGTOW would have had a hard time forming up if it was not supported by some MRA ideologies.

Just because they don’t subscribe to the idea of walking away….doesn’t necessarily mean they are the enemy.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I think most mra get mgtow. Certainly the ones I’ve spoken with.

However, it seems the main difference is with the fight and the outcome.

Mras still believe the system can be changed. I think the days of ‘tradcon’ have long gone .. even for them. It seems more about egalitarian processes now but the feminazis are not going to want that.

So for the mras the fight will be long, hard and lots of casualties for very little gain ….. token s~~~ but nothing major because there are now whole industries relying on extraction from men.

For mras it like Davis and Goliath except David has had his sling taken away.

Mgtow David just didn’t show up but is instead whispering to other Davids to walk away and leave the Goliaths to fight each other.

I have admiration for any soldiers that go over the top and give of themselves.

However, they are fighting a war of guns and cannon where the enemy has stealth, nuclear and cyber weapons.

The art of war is don’t go to war if nobody gives a s~~~.

Our war on them is a far greater weapon than all the above.

It is the weapon our enemies fear the most and can’t be destroyed so easily.

Our weapen is our minds, thoughts, sovereignty and identity.

They know they can’t win that battle. History has and will prove this over and over.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

Anonymous wrote:

MRA’s are condemned by law seeking justice in a court of law.

MGTOW cut the b~~~~ off everything and let it bleed out while he walks away.

(MRA) Hey MGTOW, don’t throw that monkey wrench into the machinery that’s eating all the men, we can FIX IT!

(MGTOW) <toss> BANG, CRUNCH, BASH, CRACK, BOOM!

(MRA) How can you do that? What are you trying to accomplish MGTOW?

(MGTOW) I’m not trying to accomplish anything! I’m sick and f~~~ing tired of this useless wrench dinging into my hip so I tossed it!

Sue me!

LOL ahahaha good stuff.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

MRA is traditional gender warfare, frontal assault.

MGTOW is gender guerrilla, pure and simple.

Since the system is gynocentric, there’s an enormous unbalancement of forces.

Do you guess who have more chances? 😀

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[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Unlike PUA, MRA and MGTOW is not mutually exclusive.

I see MGTOW as a subset of MRA that use the most effective weapon to fight while non MGTOW MRA use the less effective weapon to fight.

By awakening another men regarding MGTOW is keeping the rights of another man so he would not lose his rights in pussy trap. How is that not MRA?

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

My problem with men’s right activists is that they exist.

When you argue with a women you are the problem and perpetuate the problem.

When a woman tells me I am a filthy piece of s~~~ blah blah blah, what do I do? NOTHING

What does a MGTOW say? Nothing. Simply turns and walks away humming a tune that sounds like “rave on cat s~~~, rave on”

Chisel it into the back of your eyeb~~~~.

You can’t make a woman be a decent human being. When you engage them you validate them.

What about societal inequities? What about them? They are land mines. Proceed with the utmost caution. As if your life depended on it.

MRA folks, please listen! Walk away. Please, pretty please with syrup on top, walk away…

Peace brothers

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

MRAs are stuck believing that they can fight and win.

Like trying to make the cold war hot.

With ICBMs there is no winning.

All MRAs are doing is adding fuel to the fire.Not snuffing out misandry.Adding to it.

“Only a fool fights in a burning house”

Sometimes your advasary is so toxic that the only way to win is not to play.

When you argue with women and gynocentric f~~~heads you are giving them something they want and need.

Evidence that the wimmins are under threat .

This narritive has been used since ancient times.OUR women are under threat so sharpen your sword and give me money to pay an army.Or THEY will come and rape your mother, wife and daughter.

The Nazis did it(joos arre going to rape our german women).Racist did it in the south.(Black/mullatosare going to rape our white women.Jews in the OT were warned that Ethopians with dicks like horses were coming.Protecting women is part of human evolution)

Cry wolf(misoggny) and unleash the dogs of war.

When you walk away and refuse to pkay, you expose gynocentrism for being the maggot covered antiquated, obSOLete thing that it really is.

In 2016 there is no logical reason that a womans life is more valuabe than mine or yours.

Time for the world to learn that.

Will probaby take a century though.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Another stage before MGTOW, dating down.

Sorry c~~~s, you can’t use that against us, been there down that.

C~~~s are always late to the party.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

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