Some questions about f~~~ buddies.

[GrotesqueRogueParticipant 116]

I seem to have overcome the neediness for relationships with women. I don’t care. Sure, there are some relapses, but I know that all those fairy tales are lies, and I dream of something that doesn’t exist (even if it does, what are the odds to find the NAWALT? not worth the time and efforts).

So here I am, doing stuff I want to and when I want to. And I have plenty of stuff to do, and that’s my priority.

 

But here the question goes…

I don’t mind spending time together with some girl doing stuff I like – be it watching movies I like or doing some s~~~ I want. I find it to be quite a reasonable exchange – I give them some attention, but we do the stuff that I want and I don’t have to listen to much of their bulls~~~. Yeah, I just got used to watching movies with someone. Plus, I state them that these are conditions to be met and if they don’t like them, they can f~~~ off for I am totally fine doing the described above on my own.

There’s one girl that I find attractive (that’s rare, most of the time I don’t bother or notice them). As I stated above – I don’t mind having someone to have fun with. It’s not that I need it for there’s so much stuff I can do. I like getting laid as many of us. Prostitutes are out of the question at the moment, stable girlfriends – f~~~ that s~~~, one night stands – I just don’t like it, I would have to go out of my line. The only viable option left – a f~~~ buddy.

Sure, I have my hands =D

 

Anyway.
I realize that I know no one in my circle who ever had f~~~ buddies. At least, none of the people who are in early-mid 20s. I don’t even f~~~ing know how to deal with a f~~~ buddy and if girls in their early twenties even consider that option (esp. if they are brought up in a traditionalist country).

Second question – do most of them flip out when you clearly stand that no LTR whatsoever and if she doesn’t like smth she can go and f~~~ herself? Do you reveal such info after some time? Or do you drop a hint that “hey, I might reconsider my opinion” (lie, but whatever). How do you even approach the girl knowing that you see her just as a f~~~buddy? Not even a one-night stand?

Would like to hear about your opinions and experience with f~~~-buddies.

 

I understand that I might play with a polar bear.

And that’s the reason why I need to control myself and the whole situation if it turns out as I might want it to.

 

P.S. Im early to mid-twenties, better than average looking, good shape. But yeah, my SMV is still low for most of them.

[QcummerParticipant 652]

excellent question. I have the same question…looking forward to some good advice.

[martygParticipant 103]

You know what you want, do you know that she wants the same thing? Does she want to ‘accidentally’ get pregnant? At which point you are ROYALLY SCREWED.

[OldscoundrellParticipant 412]

From my experience the fb status is established after the first hookup. But in every single case. It led to them playing jealousy mind games to try to get commitment the subtle route. Usually after about 2 weeks for me.

As a great mgtow once said…

IT’S A TRAP!!

[FermatParticipant 3478]

I agree with @colbshank. Friends with benefits are pleasure based relationships that don’t lead to any personal growth or development. It seems dreamy at first but like every thing else you mentioned it’s a fairy tale. You have dismissed other options as they don’t benefit you but have arrived at the fwb option and feel it’s the best way to eat your cake and have it too. This isn’t necessarily true.

There are jealousy issues. There are mind games. There are issues with standards being met. It starts out nice but it will not end well with you. I’m not wishing you I’ll but this is the cold hard truth, and truth is the staple diet of mgtow.  If you want a fulfilling life where your relationships with people are positive and rewarding in the long run avoid friends with benefits.  There is only short term benefit with pain and headache at the end. Life is all about pain and headache in the beginning and then benefits at the end. Good luck though if u do pursue fwb.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[RoyDalParticipant]

My experience is limited in that I have never dated off social media. So, my sample size is small. However, in 100% of the times tried, turning a casual friendship into a “romance” has resulted in hard feelings all around and an alarmingly high percentage of outright disasters.

Conclusion: It’s a trap!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 9]

I’m seeing a lot of threads with guys being anti-sex, and anti-FB…

 

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Interesting. I was never interested in marriage, but rather the swinger life.

[GrotesqueRogueParticipant 116]

Valid points, Fermat.

Agree with you, Raydal.

I can’t say that me and that girl have any kind of casual friendship, I am just helping her a little bit sometimes (since she doesn’t really speak English well, so it’s difficult for her to communicate with people she lives with. But that’s what I would do for a guy). But in this case, she sometimes drops by my house and, basically, distracts me by telling me about her life and asking me different questions. For now I am being polite, but my attention doesn’t come for free now, because there’s other stuff I can concentrate on. We’ll see. For now I am thinking either about limiting her presence or getting smth more out of her, and the sooner I decide, the better.

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

That certain story with that doctor, who got royally screwed by his “friend with benefits” gal, comes to mind. In the end, you will still be playing with fire, if you aren’t careful at least.

[RuprectParticipant 56]

It’s unbelievably rare to find a woman who will keep the relationship at that level for too long.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

martyg wrote:

You know what you want, do you know that she wants the same thing? Does she want to ‘accidentally’ get pregnant? At which point you are ROYALLY SCREWED.

BINGO

[GunslingerParticipant 242]

I’ve had one exclusive f~~~ buddy…or so I thought…for like two months before I met my soon to be wife. Long story short, when I told her that I had started seeing someone exclusively and that we would need to stop our thing, by that time it’d been like a month a half since we had slept together…she flipped the f~~~ out. Tried keying my car, tried to kick me in the nuts a couple of times, and just screaming at the top of her lungs that I was a “liar and she thought we were going to be together”. I mean I was pretty honest up front and so was she, we were just helping each other out until we just didn’t want to anymore…needless to say, I think it’s always a trap.

[sidecarParticipant 35859]

martyg wrote:

You know what you want, do you know that she wants the same thing? Does she want to ‘accidentally’ get pregnant? At which point you are ROYALLY SCREWED.

So get a vasectomy. Just don’t tell her. Or anyone.

And if circumstances ever do come up where you do need to tell her, well those same circumstances will make you glad you had it done.

Gunslinger wrote:

my soon to be wife.

Wait… What?

[GunslingerParticipant 242]

Side car…that was 8 years ago…The last time I had a f~~~ buddy. She was the last girl I slept with before the bitch I eventually married. After reading it again…it is a tad confusing.

[Anonymous 12]

In my experience the friend/buddy part in F~~~ Buddy/Friends with Benefits always seems to be missing. It is more like meet, f~~~ say bye till next time. And that is per the woman’s preference usually.

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