Society "shaming" virgin men

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Anonymous wrote:

This is one of the few places where a man is not mocked for refusing to have sex, and we’re a vicious bunch when called upon.

One of the things I love around here; you’d never get mocked for being a virgin; in fact, people will actually be jealous of ‘lucky’ you. I don’t know if that counts as lying to myself or ow self-esteem, but it feels good.

Proud to be a virgin, and hopefully will stay that way for my whole life. I do not want sex no matter how much ever my lizard brain says so. I’d fool it with a jerk-off or a fleshlight. No sex, never.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[AttonParticipant]

Living by a standard that requires men to pander to women is a s~~~ty standard.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Anthony wrote:

As for myself, I am a virgin. I never had sex and at this point, I don’t even know if I want to or not. As my signature suggests, I’d rather f~~~ a fleshlight any day of the week than to stick my dick in crazy.

If i could take back time i would’ve stayed a virgin.
(not that i was turbo sexually active)

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

Anthony wrote:

So after watching that PUA video, I came across this video of that very same PUA trying to say “if you haven’t had sex, then you can’t be a real MGTOW.”

I find that statement alone to be stupid as f~~~ because in this day and age, especially with MGTOW growing more each and every day, I’d expect to see more MGTOWs who are virgins.

As for myself, I am a virgin. I never had sex and at this point, I don’t even know if I want to or not. As my signature suggests, I’d rather f~~~ a fleshlight any day of the week than to stick my dick in crazy.

More and more men virgin or not, are waking up to the fact that women just aren’t worth having sex with. So it only makes sense that younger men like myself will never have sex to begin with because of this fact.

And as far as the idiot PUA in the video is concerned, I’m glad to be a virgin at this point in my life. It means that I’ve never wasted money and my time on vagina. It also means I’m immune to false accusations, pregnancy scares, and STDs.

And who knows, I may have sex in the future, but at this point in time, I just don’t see the need to. With fleshlights and POV porn, all my sexual urges are completely satisfied.

Actually this is nothing to be ashamed of. Think about how worry free your life is right now? You didn’t stick your dick inside a woman and think f~~~, I hope I didn’t catch insert std name here. You also didn’t spend your hard earned money to impress some bitch. I hope this reaches catostrophic levels and they have no men to choose from.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

Stargazer wrote:

BigD wrote:

A man can “know” or not “know” a woman, but a woman cannot take the virginity of a man.

I read this a few times but I’m not sure I get what you’re saying. Back in my day, the definition of a virgin woman was “has not had a man put his penis in her vagina” and of a virgin man was “has not put his penis in a woman’s vagina”. I would go one step further and add “with the intent to copulate” but I acknowledge that the “intent” portion could be argued.

Anyway, if you’re an adult man and you’ve never put your penis in a woman’s vagina, I say you’re a virgin. Congratulations. No other form of sexual behavior (manual, oral, anal or otherwise) meets this criteria.

There is no physical change to the man if he has had sex. There is nothing that popped or bleed. If the definition of a Virgin man is to have his penis inside a vagina, that means most men, unless C-section, are mother f~~~ers. If your definition of a virgin is any sexual contact of placing a penis inside a woman, then we are all mother f~~~ers.

This is why definition is important. Unless you are bottom boy, you are a virgin. You can have been with a woman or not. A woman cannot take the virginity of a man. She can be his first, but she cannot physically pop him to where others will know he has had sex.

Anal trauma from anal sex can be seen and verified. A penis that has been in and out of a vagina, unless STDs are involved, is the exact same as any other penis that hasn’t been in any orifice.

There has to be a physical proof of loss of virginity.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Masculine_Man wrote:

I hope this reaches catostrophic levels and they have no men to choose from.

That would be awesome to see. And we’d see fleshlights/other sex toys sky rocket in sale prices. Damn, I need to invest in fleshlight stocks.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

When you say ‘sex’, then jacking off is in this category, right? Because I’ve been jacking off every day for the past 32 years (since puberty), and I’m good. Not sure were ‘monk’ comes in, as in no jacking off? Because then I’m definitely not a monk. In my mind, I am certain every man jacks off, and it’s quite natural.

About women; in my mind I’ve conjured up an image of the ‘perfect woman’. That is, with everything perfect, and without any flaws. In real life, females are just as badly glued together as many men (specifically bluepillers), so there’s no such thing as ‘perfect’. Real women compete with this image of perfection in your mind, and she knows she can never compete and ‘win’. So she will lie and obfuscate to ‘win you over’. Many men will simply give in because they’re thirsty, and hey! Here’s this ‘perfect girl’! It’s not until it’s over that regret takes over, and men find themselves in the cross hairs of the female hunter. Why paint your face, unless it’s simply BAIT?

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

– Some days I wish I had stayed a virgin. The thrill of the hunt is intense.
– Slot C is like heroin; as I think brother Cpig will agree. It’s been over a year since my last hit of the real deal…I still get cravings.
-I think I will have these cravings until I kick the old air addiction. Masturbation is a cheap, fail-safe substitute; with 75% of the bang and 0% of the drama/risk.
– Don’t be a recovering addict like me. Best not to start.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[bob__Participant 946]

You can do whatever you want for yourself if you don’t need women. Women obviously hate that so they try to shame you. I’m over 30 and still a virgin.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

The main reason for virgin shaming is society (and women in particular) want you to be suckered in by a woman as soon as possible so you can start being her provider. If you don’t start playing the game as soon as you’re legally able to, you’re shunned and shamed so you’ll want to play the game and be like everybody else. Thank God I never fell for this BS. I’ll be MGTOW for life.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

BigD wrote:

There is no physical change to the man if he has had sex.

True, but utterly absurd.

Psychological change. For men, as with women, there is a tremendous psychological effect to giving up one’s virginity. How can you possibly conspire to overlook this fact?

Take a person who has lived for a decade in California and then move them to Nevada or Texas. The move does not change them physically, but talk to them six months later and tell me they haven’t experienced a dramatic change.

Honestly, I don’t think men claim to want virgin women because they enjoy the experience of tearing a hymen… men want virginal women because men believe virginal women will bond to them and be more loyal to them once the women have sex with them.

It’s the psychological change a woman undergoes as a result of having intercourse with a man that makes a woman not a virgin, not the physiological change.

Make an effort to look beneath the surface and you will find the truth of reality to be far richer than you might imagine.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Equating the ability to acquire numerous sex partners with masculinity makes sense if we are talking about procreating. However, if you are banging a lot of chicks and not passing on your DNA then you really are kind of doing it wrong as far as nature is concerned. In that sense you might as well be a virgin.

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[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Skeptisk wrote:

When you say ‘sex’, then jacking off is in this category, right? Because I’ve been jacking off every day for the past 32 years (since puberty), and I’m good.

When I say “I haven’t had” I mean, I’ve never been with a woman.

Eyeswideopen wrote:

I think I will have these cravings until I kick the old air addiction. Masturbation is a cheap, fail-safe substitute; with 75% of the bang and 0% of the drama/risk.

Definitely. Plus, it’s faster and easier as well than having to deal with getting laid.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

Equating the ability to acquire numerous sex partners with masculinity makes sense if we are talking about procreating. However, if you are banging a lot of chicks and not passing on your DNA then you really are kind of doing it wrong as far as nature is concerned. In that sense you might as well be a virgin.

Let’s consider this statement a bit more closely.

The male sexual urge drives us to seek out and identify a healthy, fecund female, put our dick into her and drop a load of sperm… then move on to do the same to another one and another one ad infinitum.

The urge does not drive us to hang around to make sure she becomes pregnant, help raise the baby or protect and provide for either one of them at all. It’s HER urges that take care of those things.

I think you can see where I’m going with this. FEMALE reproductive success is determined by identifying a male of sufficient genetic diversity who appears to be an effective protector and provider, having him impregnate her then coercing him into sticking around to help raise that baby. MALE reproductive success is determined by f~~~ing as many hot chicks as possible.

Acquiring numerous (hot) sex partners is, in fact, the ESSENCE of masculinity.

Not knocking them up, not hanging around, not paying the bills, not keeping them safe… and certainly not avoiding them… rather getting them to open their legs, sticking it in and dumping a load.

Thus, by nature, a man who f~~~s a lot of hot women is going to be rewarded with pleasure and confidence (the prizes nature bestows upon men for doing its service) while the woman who scores an alpha, gets knocked up by and puts a yolk on him is going to get the rewards nature confers on women (plus a lot of attention and free s~~~).

So you see, it is actually a man’s nature to produce material wealth and get laid. Those who do are successful and those who don’t ARE NOT… at least by nature’s standards.

We may choose to go against our nature, but we can not deny the facts of its existence. That is just self-delusion.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

If men blindly followed our inate nature we would all be sitting in the floor of a grass hut, roasting an antelope for dinner.

Society was based in the social contract between the “beta” men and the women, the men would provide food and resources for a single woman and his children.

Alfa men, mating with lots of women and dumping them never provided anything of value in society and left behind single mothers and loads of bastards.

Hypergamy isnt bad in itself, its in this warped and twisted society that women, being weaker, dumber and insane, are given all the benefits of living in society without any responsabilaties or restraints.

Women are vile, amoral beings in their core.
Society forgot this, and today elevates rotten, insane children called feminists to the highest standard.

In todays world, the only sane response in not to play the game at all and go full monk.

[RennieParticipant]

Stargazer wrote:

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Honestly, I don’t think men claim to want virgin women because they enjoy the experience of tearing a hymen… men want virginal women because men believe virginal women will bond to them and be more loyal to them once the women have sex with them.

That’s how I see it. The glue sticks better when it is first applied.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Would anyone here want to stick their dick into another man’s used flesh light?

Well unless you’re banging virgins, or are a virgin that’s pretty much what’s going on in society today.

Being a virgin is the only guarantee that you’re not using your dick as a swivel stick in a cum dumpster.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[RennieParticipant]

AFT wrote:

Would anyone here want to stick their dick into another man’s used flesh light?

I know one guy who didn’t see anything wrong with buying a used fleshlight off fleabay. Even after I objected.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Stargazer wrote:

ChaosOverAll wrote:

Equating the ability to acquire numerous sex partners with masculinity makes sense if we are talking about procreating. However, if you are banging a lot of chicks and not passing on your DNA then you really are kind of doing it wrong as far as nature is concerned. In that sense you might as well be a virgin.

Let’s consider this statement a bit more closely.

The male sexual urge drives us to seek out and identify a healthy, fecund female, put our dick into her and drop a load of sperm… then move on to do the same to another one and another one ad infinitum.

The urge does not drive us to hang around to make sure she becomes pregnant, help raise the baby or protect and provide for either one of them at all. It’s HER urges that take care of those things.

I think you can see where I’m going with this. FEMALE reproductive success is determined by identifying a male of sufficient genetic diversity who appears to be an effective protector and provider, having him impregnate her then coercing him into sticking around to help raise that baby. MALE reproductive success is determined by f~~~ing as many hot chicks as possible.

Acquiring numerous (hot) sex partners is, in fact, the ESSENCE of masculinity.

Not knocking them up, not hanging around, not paying the bills, not keeping them safe… and certainly not avoiding them… rather getting them to open their legs, sticking it in and dumping a load.

Thus, by nature, a man who f~~~s a lot of hot women is going to be rewarded with pleasure and confidence (the prizes nature bestows upon men for doing its service) while the woman who scores an alpha, gets knocked up by and puts a yolk on him is going to get the rewards nature confers on women (plus a lot of attention and free s~~~).

So you see, it is actually a man’s nature to produce material wealth and get laid. Those who do are successful and those who don’t ARE NOT… at least by nature’s standards.

We may choose to go against our nature, but we can not deny the facts of its existence. That is just self-delusion.

The whole point of our sex drive is to procreate. We weren’t given the instinct arbitrarily. Human self-awareness doesn’t change this. Acquiring wealth and anything else to attract potential mates and then not actually passing on genetic material to the next generation is an absolute failure where the continuation of the species is concerned.

Nature doesn’t care about notches on the belt, it cares as to whether or not your DNA makes it to a new generation or if your line goes extinct. That’s success and failure in the animal kingdom.

This doesn’t mean we have to care one way or the other about having kids or having sex. It doesn’t have to define us either, but it’s the reason we have this instinct to begin with, whether we like it or not.

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[aeragoanParticipant 1186]

society shame those men who they can’t able to control…

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