Society Collapse,……what are the odds,…

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse

Interested in what everyone thinks in light of recent news like the UK attempting to make it illegal to be a man. Other issues fall into this. War of course. Replacement births.
History a state rises and falls in around 200 years.

IF Hillary would have been elected I would have bet 60 to 70% chance I would see it happen in my life time. Trump has changed much, but a lot of women are going full steam ahead in the hate men area that will effect replacement. Right now I get it 30% for the states. 60% for most of Europe. 40% for Japan. England 75%. Argentina 90%. Brazil, Mexico and Canada 65%.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

I agree 30% for USA, but probably 75% for England and 100% for Europe. England a bit less because of Brexit but still high since less likely to follow through on it.

Europe is literally following a STEP BY STEP historical process by which Rome Fell and they KEEP VOTING FOR IT (with Macron/Merkel)

(1) overtaxing citizens, growing welfare state, printing fiat currency
(2) native citizens stop having children (especially intelligent citizens who realize its not smart to be stuck with kids when society falls)
(3) government lets in refugees to try and compensate for lack of native breeding
(4) refugees dont assimilate **EUROPE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN (4) AND (5)**
(5) refugees take over
(6) 1000+ years of Chaos across Europe

[Branched offParticipant 10920]

It will happen as surely as night follows day.
The signs are everywhere for anyone who knows how to read such things. They have not changed sine ancient times.
Women disobey their husbands. Men marry men. People and their nations no longer seek to make themselves and strong and successful but to be beautiful, accomplished in the arts and to seek pleasure. Foods are made that arouse appetite more than satisfy it, more seriously disabled are born etc etc. These are the prodigies that the gods will destroy a civilisation.
As to when it will happen that is harder to scry. Much depends on the economy and the economy of rivals and the climate. Usually the pattern is that poorer civilisations have a population boom in a time of good climate. Then the climate changes and a young hungry generation start to beat down the poorly guarded doors of the decadent civilisation.
This could start to happen in the next generation as there is a real population bubble in the less developed nation while our women cannot even manage to give birth to the two children needed to pay their debt to life. All it needs is the trigger. The trigger is not how messed up we are, it is how desperate our rivals are at a time when we are messed up. This is usually climatic but it could be from many wars that toughen and make them desperate or from simple over population.
Otherwise we just get a decline in living standard and happiness but not collapse unless the climate throws a real bomb.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Branched off wrote:

These are the prodigies that the gods will destroy a civilisation.

Yes and I’ve heard another “canary in the coal mine” is when intelligent people stop reproducing.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

surfdude12 wrote:

Branched off wrote:

These are the prodigies that the gods will destroy a civilisation.

Yes and I’ve heard another – “canary in the coal mine” is when intelligent people stop reproducing.

I must be another “canary in the coal-mine” then!!!

It seems that only the Alphas and the Blue-Pill Manginas/Simps are breeding nowadays… Any man with genuine clear-thinking/common-sense/intelligence has walked away from women and won’t breed with women (in this toxic environment).

[No CountryParticipant 759]

Societies and civilizations have came and went. Rome was once a power house and it fell. Greed is the cause of all this. I am not sure if any civilizations in the world has ever been truly great. They all have done some really weird stuff through out time. Slavery, genocide, ext. Even in biblical times, which I don’t believe in. As for today we are just wage slaves. Go to work, go home, sleep and repeat. So as for a collapse happing, it is possible. The powers that be run everything. Just remember it is all game. Might of went of topic but oh well.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

sjt1975 wrote:

I must be another “canary in the coal-mine” then!!!

It seems that only the Alphas and the Blue-Pill Manginas/Simps are breeding nowadays… Any man with genuine clear-thinking/common-sense/intelligence has walked away from women and won’t breed with women (in this toxic environment).

Yes, exactly. Its only logical that people with high intelligence would stop reproducing when they accurately foresee a societal collapse, because who wants to be left holding two babies when that happens?

I would wager that the average IQ of MGTOW members is far above the average IQ of men.

And I believe they already have hard data on this. People of low IQ are the ones having lots of kids, because those are the ones who typically apply for welfare, so for them there is an incentive to have kids, but they’re too stupid to realize its short term and won’t last. People of high IQ are rationally deciding not to have kids, since they can see the writing on the wall, but their $$$ is being involuntarily stolen from them to pay the low IQ people to have kids. So you have smart people subsidizing the reproduction of dumb people. Yes, this will not end well.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6405]

Can Gold hit $10,000.00 or more? … the short answer, yes .. it will .. and I won’t be shocked at all. Besides .. Who’s eventually going to bail out the central banks?

When we actually open the safe .. there’s nothing there. Zero, naught .. nothing .. Zip.
A financial pop because the same treasury bonds are being listed on several intermediary balance sheets within system .. shenanigan fractional reserving within the system. Who owns what? Phantom shares exist. A financial panic because nobody really owns any investments other than “physical” precious metals .. only IOU’s from banks and brokerage houses. A financial panic because high speed trading algorithms won’t know what to do and will repeatedly revert to option of last resort.
A financial panic when people finally wake up from their malaise and it dawns on them that the debts of nations can never be paid back .. and never were intended to be paid back .. the Fed is keeping interest rates at near zero for as long as they can due to this Ponzi scheme gone amok. They know it .. You and I know it. The safe is empty. Re-hypothecation .. equals phantom assets.
Get some silver or gold in small size amounts for future bartering. Prepare now. You might have a year .. maybe, maybe not. The system is still propped up but this house of cards is teetering and fatigued. He who is prepared will weather the storm. Time for stacking small weights.
Decentralization can’t be a bad thing .. why do we need so many intermediary actors taking a cut from every transaction? Leveraged institutions creeping away with fees on your funds – double and triple dipping with your money. From a practical perspective, peer to peer could be a vast improvement .. instantaneous finance combined with personal responsibility.

[ghostParticipant]

We live in a competitive world, just like any other animal on this planet. I try not to focus too much on what happens to society as a whole, but rather what I need to do in order to accomplish my goals.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

In addition to the factors described in the posts above, energy availability and the flawed global economic system are significant variables in the collapse equation.

EROEI / oil, gas and resource availability are linked with collapse scenarios. The global economy is very dependent on oil and gas for electricity, transport, food production (fertilisers are oil based), etc The world is essentially addicted to oil and a country in which the supply/ availability is seriously affected will likely face collapse type problems… except countries that have planned ahead and created sustainable energy systems over the past 30 years will do better, e.g., Denmark. Without fuel for transport supermarkets are not supplied and can run out of stock in a week, and resources stop arriving into countries via ports. There are many decades worth of fossil fuel reserves still untapped but its not as simple as that when you factor EROEI. In addition, indefinite GDP growth in a world of finite resources is impossible – decoupling has not been successful. The people that run this joint have no interest in creating resource sustainability in the global system.

The flawed global financial system is another factor. The so-called banking and political elites have been creating more money from nothing via quantitative easing to prop up this system that makes massive profits via fractional reserve banking (which also creates money from nothing and requires everyone pay interest on that money) and influences politics to unjustly transfer any private banking debts to the citizens – as has happened in many countries, and these socalled bailouts are often dependent on conditionalities in which national assets are privatised. The end result is the banks / corporations get richer and people lose and global resources coninue to decline.

Some people that have studied this deeply have come to the conclusion that a mass move toward a more sustainable economy and sustainable living methods however desirable will likely come to late and that some form of collapse is inevitable – most people are very dependent on the current system.

What ever happens its good to be MGTOW in all scenarios and it makes sense imho not to be too dependent on factors beyond your control thus the rise of preppers, eco-villages / more sustainable community initiatives etc.

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

100%.. the real question is when.

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[743 roadmasterParticipant]

ghost wrote:

We live in a competitive world, just like any other animal on this planet. I try not to focus too much on what happens to society as a whole, but rather what I need to do in order to accomplish my goals.

While my goals are enough dividend paying stocks to cover all needs, I find myself observant of society, even more now being on this forum. I have also noticed (not here on mgtow) a growing number of “preppers”.
A proficient gray man mgtow can avoid much of the world’s dysfunctions, you can never go wrong with to much information.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[QuellParticipant 2538]

Peaks and valleys my friends.

Will society collapse?

The short answer, No.

Society will continue to evolve with periods of darkness and subsequent rebuilding.

History is full of “the world will end” moments.

I’m sure many thought the world was ending during the collapse of Rome, the Dark Ages or on the advent of WWII.

We fought through and pushed forward.

There will be more wars, diseases, famine and change in the workforce due to automation.

However, there will always be periods of peace and happiness.

The goal I suppose as a MGTOW is live your life without any preclusions of the past or future.

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

I feel 100% certain that there will be a massive economic and societal collapse in my lifetime across all western nations. They will fall like dominoes. I think a collapse is really the best possible thing that could happen though, because the current system is obviously not sustainable. The sooner it happens, the better.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Christopher wrote:

The global economy is very dependent on oil and gas for electricity, transport, food production (fertilisers are oil based), etc The world is essentially addicted to oil and a country in which the supply/ availability is seriously affected will likely face collapse type problems…

^^^This exactly ^^^

The collapse is inevitable and it will be because we ran out of oil. There is no replacement for oil, and the human population is way over the carrying capacity of the Earth solely due to the fossil fuel bonanza. A lot of people are going to die when this ends.

There is an excellent book on what we are in for. Check out “The Long Emergency”

I also recommended the movie “The Survivalist” in a previous thread, which takes place in the aftermath of this inevitable scenario.

It is going to happen. There will be no magical replacement source of energy that can replace fossil fuels. We’ve totally squandered a one-time gift of nature. Globalism is a total folly and will collapse along with the collapse of fossil fuels. We will need to find a radically new way to live, after the collapse and massive population crash.

The answer, is no.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22502]

That has been going on for decades here.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Sadly not In our life time.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Look around you. The collapse is happening right now.

Why do people assume it will be a single, sudden event?

[Anonymous 1]

sidecar wrote:

Look around you. The collapse is happening right now.

Why do people assume it will be a single, sudden event?

@sidecar growing up in the 313 its pretty easy to see.

Society has been collapsing here for decades, the infrastructure too.

There is no question in my mind…Society Collapsed.

[AttonParticipant]

Japan is holding together quite well a decline is natural.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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