So You Want to be a Father ……

[Anonymous 38]

I’d like to be a father IF I didn’t have to live my entire life playing THEIR GAME (their being HER and the GOVERNMENT), suppressing my true self in order to not be completely EMASCULATED AND DESTROYED.

I have seen it too many times. You survive by either being clueless and thus completely controlled by a pathetic childish creature (a woman), or by being the ‘patriarch’ you have to be in order to keep the WIFE and KIDS in check. Unless you’re naturally a dominating son of a bitch, i.e. you believe in such values as honesty, reciprocity, fairness etc (basically a good man), playing the role of ‘patriarch’ will take its toll on you. You will basically be permanently p~~~ed off. For any number of reasons, including having to always ‘act the patriarch’, having to spend untold amounts on useless s~~~ for everyone else, spending lots of time dealing with people far below your mental capacity, rarely having time to yourself, feeling like a trapped slave and dreaming of the free life, never being able to show weakness (i.e. being an authentic human being).

It’s like Chris Rock said: “Every morning look in the mirror and say fuuuuuuck you. F~~~ your hopes, f~~~ your dreams, f~~~ your plans, let’s go out there and make this bitch (and kids) happy”.

You are a walking wallet, taxi driver, life coach and general leader. Though you are not really given the respect a leader should get. So, it’s not really worth it at all. I’m honestly thinking about getting a vasectomy at this point. Having kids is the LAST thing I want in my life.

If I ever had some pining to raise a child I could always adopt. I give no f~~~s about it not being my ‘blood’, that’s blue pill s~~~. End of the day if you want to raise a kid for the sake of raising a kid, who gives a f~~~ if it’s biologically yours or not. At least adopting you could do it alone without some bitch enslaving you.

Awakened
You’ve probably written about it before but for my and others’ benefit, what’s your escape plan? And is it really not worth doing it sooner?

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Skelator wrote:

This is a cynical take on today’s current family situation. You have to accept and understand cynicism in today’s society to survive and not let the world take advantage of you. No more wasting time and money

Call it “cynical” if you choose, but it’s JUST REALITY/TRUTH. Stay “cynical”, Stay Strong

Dark Kenshi wrote:

she wants to go.So, let her

For ME, Like MOST THINGS, Letting Go to the points of No F~~~s Given IS A PROCESS, and this one BEGAN the process with me long ago, and yesterday’s nonsense just re-affirms that the day is coming when I will NOT INTERACT with her at all.

For Good, or Bad, I’m WELL-EXPERIENCED at recognizing TOXIC behavior from others, and CUTTING ALL THAT CRAP OUT OF MY LIFE.

Skelator wrote:

I guess she is the youngest one of your children, so your freedom day is closer than it was yesterday.

She’s NOT the youngest, but my prepping and planning for MY FREEDOM has NOT changed, and will NOT change due to HER LIFE CHOICES. I’m set on a course, and the “kids” are ONLY getting older, and my Freedom will come when it BENEFITS ME the most. Until then, Prepping and Planning shall CONTINUE.

Monk wrote:

Awakened wrote:

I WON’T BE THERE, AND I SURE AS HELL WON’T WANT HER ANYWHERE IN MY LIFE. I can see a day when this rotting branch too shall be pruned from my Life.

Realistic. Ruthless.
Way to go.

It’s just survival.

I have cut out what’s left of my family MANY, MANY Years ago without REGRET, and just let’s say that they too had to earn it. I NEVER start this CRAP, but I sure as hell know how to end it.

F~~~, I walked Away from “them” before it was even a term. For whatever reason, one tried to squirm back after MANY, MANY, MANY Years, and all I did was delete their messages, and continued on, and so I can do as needed again as NEEDED.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[The HogParticipant 253]

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter! Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can be ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your little girl – reading her stories at bedtime, taking her to sports practice, making sure she has a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result; Her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually f~~~ her in every hole.

As man who has a daughter you are literally dedicating at least 18 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy.

It is the ULTIMATE and FINAL cuck!

Think about it logically.

Had a woman loudly declare female superiority because they can multi-task and men can't! Told her to "shut up and fuck off" and she couldn't do either!

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

The Hog wrote:

Think about it logically.

There are a few issue with your “logic” when trying to equate the father of a daughter to a cuck.

First, a man does not CHOOSE the sex of his child. Therefore, there is No Correlation between a father and a cuck. The cuck has a choice, and the cucks intentions in a “relationship” are very different then that of a father. No correlation, and absolutely No Causation

Two, MOST Men that are fathers and MGTOW have turned towards MGTOW LONG AFTER they have already had kids when they were young and very BLUE. Therefore, yet again their truly is just no correlation between being a Father of a Daughter and a cuck. And, Obviously causation is not even up for debate.

It’s like you’re trying to equate a duck to an alligator because they both swim in the water without looking any further.

Therefore, your “logic” in comparing a father that has daughters to a cuck has no real logical basis. There truly is no logical correlation, and even if there was correlation is not a sign of causation.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[the roadParticipant 3125]

I got my vasectomy in my late 30s. It’s been good so far and it gives me greater peace of mind when dealing with women. All of them say that they don’t want kids but I know this is bulls~~~. I have told a few that I am sperm free and others I have said nothing to. Either way, it’s not their business to know unless I choose to tell them.

I can’t tell you how many women I’ve seen who are in their late 30s who are still expecting to get married and have children. I even see some 40+ year olds thinking that prince charming is right around the corner and willing to pay full price for her drooping body.

Most of these women pretend that they are “career” women. They don’t even make s~~~. Some skank making 50K a year who is saddled with 100K in debt is not a good choice to have a child with. What makes it even worse is that a lot of them go on lavish vacations. Uh, yeah bitch, just keep piling up the debt…

My general advice to all is: Protect/hide your wealth and get a vasectomy. If you can’t get the snip, then you better wrap that s~~~ up without fail. Side note, there are no unicorns, and even the best of women are all snatched up by 27 or 28. If you find yourself in your 30s and you’re still single and child free- you have hit the lottery of life. If you can make it to 40, you are statistically unlikely to ever get married- this means that you have approximately half a lifetime left to continue following your dreams and ambitions. There is no such thing as “being alone” as far as I’m concerned. “Being alone” is a shaming tactic used by the collective to try and trick you into giving your life away to someone who will never appreciate you.

#MANOUT

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

the road wrote:

There is no such thing as “being alone” as far as I’m concerned. “Being alone” is a shaming tactic used by the collective to try and trick you into giving your life away to someone who will never appreciate you.

To me, being ALONE is my goal !!

I’ve lived both alone, and with a girlfriend, fiancée, wife, and eventually kids, and MANY BLUE YEARS AGO, I fell for all the societal LIES, and THREW AWAY MY ALONE TIME/MY LIFE.

Being ALONE is the BEST PART OF MY DAY, and I AM PLANNING TO LIVE ALONE AGAIN, as I never could FULLY APPRECIATE what I had until marriage and kids came along.

Now I KNOW…….

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 0]

Yup reading these type of horror stories keeps me mgtow. Also been awhile since I’ve been here.

[TwistParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m honestly thinking about getting a vasectomy at this point.

Do it. Treat yourself. Get a bag of frozen peas.

[Anonymous 38]

Twist wrote:

MGTaoist wrote:

I’m honestly thinking about getting a vasectomy at this point.

Do it. Treat yourself. Get a bag of frozen peas.

I would deeply enjoy the faces of horror on certain family members when I tell them “this year for Christmas I got myself a vasectomy”.

It’d also act as a good off-putting tactic for certain women, which is perfect.

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

Good discussion and great thread.

Becoming a father is like playing a game, say baseball. Except, the visiting team makes all the rules and can change them at will without telling you. The umpire is a die hard fan for the visiting team. Every ball their pitcher throw is a strike, even if he just drops it on the ground. Every hit you make is a foul ball, even a grounder to second. Now, when you inevitably lose the game, the visiting team gets to take your stadium, charge you for cleanup, and pay them for the pleasure of playing with them.

Yes, there are very rare men who have wine the game. However, 99.99% of men are just waiting for the bottom of the ninth. There is no 10 run rule, because she wants to run up the score.

I have young son that I love very much. I am a doctor with a good income, good home, and stable life. The court reasoned that it was in my son’s best interest that the ex move 6 hours away with our son so she could go attend a college program for people whose grades and scores weren’t good enough to actually get in. It decided that it was in my son’s best interest to move there and be babysat by her parents for 10 hours each day. The court will give her anything she wants as long as she claims its in the best interest of the child.

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

AWAKENED wrote:
I KNOW that they’ll only come looking for me when they need something, and I’m guessin that I have more than one that will ALWAYS be needin somethin…….

It’s like a train wreck,or an auto accident. You can see it coming from a distance…

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

Anonymous wrote:

I’d like to be a father IF I didn’t have to live my entire life playing THEIR GAME (their being HER and the GOVERNMENT), suppressing my true self in order to not be completely EMASCULATED AND DESTROYED.
I have seen it too many times. You survive by either being clueless and thus completely controlled by a pathetic childish creature (a woman), or by being the ‘patriarch’ you have to be in order to keep the WIFE and KIDS in check. Unless you’re naturally a dominating son of a bitch, i.e. you believe in such values as honesty, reciprocity, fairness etc (basically a good man), playing the role of ‘patriarch’ will take its toll on you. You will basically be permanently p~~~ed off. For any number of reasons, including having to always ‘act the patriarch’, having to spend untold amounts on useless s~~~ for everyone else, spending lots of time dealing with people far below your mental capacity, rarely having time to yourself, feeling like a trapped slave and dreaming of the free life, never being able to show weakness (i.e. being an authentic human being).
It’s like Chris Rock said: “Every morning look in the mirror and say fuuuuuuck you. F~~~ your hopes, f~~~ your dreams, f~~~ your plans, let’s go out there and make this bitch (and kids) happy”.
You are a walking wallet, taxi driver, life coach and general leader. Though you are not really given the respect a leader should get. So, it’s not really worth it at all. I’m honestly thinking about getting a vasectomy at this point. Having kids is the LAST thing I want in my life.
If I ever had some pining to raise a child I could always adopt. I give no f~~~s about it not being my ‘blood’, that’s blue pill s~~~. End of the day if you want to raise a kid for the sake of raising a kid, who gives a f~~~ if it’s biologically yours or not. At least adopting you could do it alone without some bitch enslaving you.
AwakenedYou’ve probably written about it before but for my and others’ benefit, what’s your escape plan? And is it really not worth doing it sooner?

Good post Taoist,
There is merit in adopting. In some cases the gov’t will PAY YOU in order to help raise the kid.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[narwhalParticipant]

Had 2 points to add. First, parenting should never be looked as an investment. Perhaps centuries ago, children were a good investment as they could actually help you build wealth and alliances and such, but certainly not today. It does no matter if it’s a boy or a girl, as you’re never going to recoup all the time and money you spent in raising the child. You really can’t even expect them to do much to take care of you in your old age.

That does mean that kids have no value as parenting can be a fun and enriching experience.

The 2nd point is that removing a mother from the equation doesn’t resolve all the downsides of fatherhood. Although it does remove stress and gives you complete control over parenting decisions, I do think parenting is a lot easier when the task is shared amongst two adults instead of just one. I also think the experiences are more memorable, for you and the kids, when another adult is involved.

The family dynamic has never been perfect, but I do think feminism has made things monumentally worse for parenting. We can never go back to the way things were, but I also don’t think men and women raising kids on their own is the best answer going forward either.

Ok. Then do it.

[MonkParticipant 16978]

Daryll55 wrote:

There is merit in adopting.

Perhaps. Just don’t adopt a female, that’s all.

Unless of course you want to be another #METOO victim.

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