So Today I Was told I'm Not A Real Man or Grown Up!

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Ha, i heard the most stupid thing today from an older guy (60’ish). He said “A man really isn’t a man or grown up unless he is married and has kids.”

To which i replied “So let me get this straight, all the gay and lesbian couples who cannot marry (Australia) or have kids aren’t considered grown ups?”

He tried to back peddle and lost dearly. God i hate stupid ignorant and narrow minded people!

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

And what about all the 15 16 17 year old guys who were never married or had kids because they were f~~~ing dead in p~~~ and blood filled trenches.

I would have punched his face in … I really would.

[SlayherParticipant 2074]

It’s not his fault he’s stupid. Sounds like he’s a natural when it comes to flaunting ignorance.

[Anonymous 12]

I call that “Life by Numbers” people who get married, have kids and buy a house because that is what is expected of them. They don’t even think about what they are saying at all.  Just parroting something they have been told at some point that they have bought hook line and sinker.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

I did find it annoying because I always thought highly of this guy and had a lot of respect for him, I was actually floored when he said that.

 

It is quite funny when I say go to a BBQ with friends and I’m the only unmarried and childless guy. I travel a lot internationally and when abroad I get amongst the girls for some fun. Anyway, when these guys partners are outta sight they are all huddled around me wanting to see pics of these girls and see what they are missing out on in their quagmire of marriage, kids and mortgages. Worst thing is they are all s~~~ scarred of being busted by their missus checking out my holiday pics, it’s pathetic. Grown up? I don’t think so, more like school boys looking at an adult mag behind the s~~~house with someone on lookout in case the headmaster comes. And you can guess, their wives despise me deeply and think I’m just a fool who hasn’t grown up. These women are absolute swamp donkeys.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

DeepInThought wrote:

I did find it annoying because I always thought highly of this guy and had a lot of respect for him, I was actually floored when he said that. It is quite funny when I say go to a BBQ with friends and I’m the only unmarried and childless guy. I travel a lot internationally and when abroad I get amongst the girls for some fun. Anyway, when these guys partners are outta sight they are all huddled around me wanting to see pics of these girls and see what they are missing out on in their quagmire of marriage, kids and mortgages. Worst thing is they are all s~~~ scarred of being busted by their missus checking out my holiday pics, it’s pathetic. Grown up? I don’t think so, more like school boys looking at an adult mag behind the s~~~house with someone on lookout in case the headmaster comes. And you can guess, their wives despise me deeply and think I’m just a fool who hasn’t grown up. These women are absolute swamp donkeys.

Haha, I love the two faced s~~~ you describe.  I was at a cook out recently and had seen a lot of people for the first time since I started a really good job a few months ago that was actually in the field I studied in.  They were all asking the same mundane s~~~…what am I doing now…do I like it…are my coworkers cool…blah blah blah.  When none of the women were around I had so many of the other guys there telling me watch out for women…they’ll want to bleed me dry once they find out I’m making some serious bank now, and to not ever get married.  Not when their wives/gfs were around…only when it was just guys around lol.

As you could imagine, when I was jokingly talking about building a 4 car garage with a small apartment above it to live in and have a place for all the toys I’m going to buy, and how I’m going to be going on several fancy vacations yearly from this point on, the general response from the guys ranged from encouragement, to congrats, to(half joking) jealousy, where as the general response from women was dirty looks and comments along the line of me being an idiot.

[clint englandParticipant 341]

Beer wrote:

 

Haha, I love the two faced s~~~ you describe. I was at a cook out recently and had seen a lot of people for the first time since I started a really good job a few months ago that was actually in the field I studied in. They were all asking the same mundane s~~~…what am I doing now…do I like it…are my coworkers cool…blah blah blah. When none of the women were around I had so many of the other guys there telling me watch out for women…they’ll want to bleed me dry once they find out I’m making some serious bank now, and to not ever get married. Not when their wives/gfs were around…only when it was just guys around lol. As you could imagine, when I was jokingly talking about building a 4 car garage with a small apartment above it to live in and have a place for all the toys I’m going to buy, and how I’m going to be going on several fancy vacations yearly from this point on, the general response from the guys ranged from encouragement, to congrats, to(half joking) jealousy, where as the general response from women was dirty looks and comments along the line of me being an idiot.

Although it’s not every guys bag, having a good job/business and the money that comes with it is the thing that makes women seethe the most. Especially when they know they have no chance of being able to leech the good life from you! Excellent smithers!!! Lol

[BONEParticipant 448]

I cringe when I hear people say that mess, I never understood why men would get married and enjoy their unhappiness, I could see this s~~~ as a child…and then these same people shame other men to make themselves feel more happy for living out Uncle Sam’s “American Dream”. Most married men I see look unhappy, they look miserable as hell then they try to tell men who aren’t trying to put up with that s~~~ to “Man up” because obviously “being a real man” is about bowing down to women and putting yourself through the meat grinder called Marriage. I would of told him to tell that s~~~ to all the soldiers who come back home to find their wives kicking them out and taking their s~~~ while f~~~ing another man in his place and tell them they’re not real men and see what happens, s~~~ sounds silly.

[Anonymous 3]

Feminism would never have gotten anywhere if not for all these moron blue pill men. I have to say, the over 40 age group is predominantly blue pill morons. I should know, I grew up with these idiots, and I watched them just push feminism into every facet of life, seemingly purposely screwing over other men, especially the young men of future generations.

The Boomer and Generation X men have ruined the greatest nation in the world.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

DeepInThought wrote:

Ha, i heard the most stupid thing today from an older guy (60’ish). He said “A man really isn’t a man or grown up unless he is married and has kids.”

To which i replied “So let me get this straight, all the gay and lesbian couples who cannot marry (Australia) or have kids aren’t considered grown ups?”

He tried to back peddle and lost dearly. God i hate stupid ignorant and narrow minded people!

So a man who marries, has several kids with a woman, divorces and does it several times is more of a man than the man who never got married and had kids?  There is like a list of replies one could give to this older man that would have him rethink things.

Only value I see out of this older man, is that maybe a list of retorts to that would be useful to generate for a man thinking about MGTOW as a way.

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[BDParticipant 1146]

DeepInThought wrote:

Ha, i heard the most stupid thing today from an older guy (60’ish). He said “A man really isn’t a man or grown up unless he is married and has kids.”

Thanks for the share Deepinthought,

We have to remember that we are products of our environment, this man grew up in a society that installed this set of values in his brain. He didn’t really have a chance. You can beat him with all the logic that you want and he most likely will not accept your argument. You could no doubt beat this man emotionally senseless by exposing the hypocrisies that he lives in, but why bother wasting your time with that.

 

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

A man is a sober minded adult male who makes rational decisions.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

As if he’s a real man when his b~~~~ are dropping. He probably needs “permission” to buy something from his wife.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

DeepInThought wrote:

“A man really isn’t a man or grown up unless he is married and has kids.”

 

Hey look, another blue pill troglodyte whose lost in the past.

Seriously, some of these old farts never learn.

[RoyDalParticipant]

DeepInThought wrote:

He said “A man really isn’t a man or grown up unless he is married and has kids.”

Don Corleone said something like that to Johnny Fontane in the opening acts of The Godfather. But they were both from an Italian Catholic background circa 1945 — a time and culture as far removed from ours as can be. These days only a fool would expose himself to the marriage/divorce industrial complex, and the Godfather was no fool.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 11]

Shaming tactics. Move along there’s nothing to see here.

[lonestar77Participant 406]

If he says that enough to himself and to others, he will start to believe that his mistake (of getting married) was the right thing to do. It’s just a mechanism that will make him feel better about his sucky married life.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Another BBQ at my place last night, icy cold beers, a cracking fire and the lads around without their wives and girlfriends. They look in my “Toy Shed” and see all my goodies and eventually the conversation comes around to “so, c’mon, when are you gonna get married and be miserable like the rest of us?” I just had a wry grin on my face and proceeded to give them the MGTOW talk, womens behaviour and my choice in life. At first there was some silence, from some, then the blue pills started but soon enough for every comment made i had a response back from everything learnt here. It may not have convinced the Simps but it definitely caused them silence to reflect and understand NOT to ask me these stupid questions of marriage anymore. But it made it easier not having the women around to start their BS.

Comment of the night from me to them “Marriage, seriously? And you are happy f~~~ing and listening to the same s~~~ from the same woman for the rest of your life, seriously? We are all 40 odd, and i am still nailing mid 20’s to early 30’s and you think i want to get married? F~~~ that!”

One replied “how can you have so much cool s~~~ in your garage?” To which i replied “Well firstly i work and invest hard plus i am not married or have kids.” Duh!!!

[Mana KnightParticipant 333]

Well, technically they are correct about the grown up part guys.

I mean, have you seen married men? They might start out babyfaces, but Jesus H.Christ does it age them if they are not careful….

So..is this what they mean by we are not “grown up” ?   Well, fine by me! 🙂

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Mana Knight wrote:

Well, technically they are correct about the grown up part guys. I mean, have you seen married men? They might start out babyfaces, but Jesus H.Christ does it age them if they are not careful…. So..is this what they mean by we are not “grown up” ?   Well, fine by me!

 

Hahaha, GOLD!

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