So, right now I am happy with a woman…

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

I met a woman a few months back and she told me she had less than five partners. I didn’t believe that s~~~ for one second. Well…I am close to believing it. She is separated from her husband(I know…flag), but she has been married for 20 years. This woman does everything I ask, with a smile. I never knew being with a woman could be like this. A NAWALT? Woooah there – not so fast, I still don’t believe in a true NAWALT, but looking around, and from my experiences in relationships over the past 20 years, this isn’t too bad. She is very nice to me and treats me like a king, gentlemen. She is conservative, feminine, nice, well-mannered, and believes in God. After dating her for months I am starting to put a small amount of trust in her.

It just confirms what I already felt in my heart. It wasn’t so much me in the relationships that was the issue, it was them. When my mother told me “If you ever want to be happy with a woman, you are going to have to make some changes”, I thought “bulls~~~”. That’s the average woman’s thinking – is men are to continually bend over and do s~~~ for them until they are temporarily happy. Guys, F~~~ THAT. I don’t argue with this woman, we enjoy each other’s company. It is peaceful, like I have never known it, and it makes me feel good to hear from another woman that I am a good man. Yes, this is sort of a form of female validation(dangerous), but it is validation from the right women(very few in number).

[UntamedParticipant]

All I can say is enjoy it while it lasts. I hope for you this woman is godly and it does last but permit me to have reservations. I haven’t met a womin who hasn’t tried to shove her control issues down my throat yet.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

She has, she came straight at me with the “I want a relationship” nonsense when we first got together and I told her, basically, “you can earn it”. I have let her know, in no unclear terms, that I am not exclusive to her, and if I meet another woman I want to be with, deal with it. I still feel that way. I am enjoying it while it lasts, because you are right, nothing lasts in life. I am just at peace at the moment to finally be able to hang out with a woman, watch some tv, have sex, and then happily go our own way. I am glad to finally put behind me the arguing, bitching, and constant tug of war with these scumbag women.

[DDJParticipant 1880]

I agree…enjoy it while it lasts.

I dated a woman for five years and she went out her way to show me she was nawalt. Married her and after 16 years…hypergamy took over.

We’re divorced now…I have the kids…she has serious mental health issues.

Happily ever after MGTOW

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[HitmanParticipant]

snake , STOP DATING MY CHICK DUDE ! ..hahaha , just kidding man ! i say enjoy, on YOUR terms ( of course ! ) low on the crazy scale is good !..

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

If you’re happy, great, be happy. But part of enjoying a nice car is sleeping well because you have insurance. Have a plan B for the worst as well.

[Anonymous 42]

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Snale

Well I was very sceptical with your opening post It didn’t click at all until I read your second entry. Well Yeah, Helloooooooo.. You ain’t living with her yet. Women plan everything. She’s just busy setting the trap. Every thing is perfect. Paradise yet. It’s no trouble at all for her while you are still new and shiny. Wait until you are a little tarnished. Just why is she a divorcee? Husband was a controlling brute, I guess.

Just don’t move in. That’s the only way she’ll stay a princess.

[stopmockingmanParticipant 441]

Enjoy your mistress and keep her that way.
My posts are self explanatory easy reads.
Look out for the Man!
Cheers.

[WallyParticipant]

Good luck and be careful, she might be using you to get back at or get back with her husband no matter what she tells you, guard your heart.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[OldBillParticipant]

Snake wrote:

She has, she came straight at me with the “I want a relationship” nonsense when we first got together and I told her, basically, “you can earn it”.

Wrong answer. You should have said “There never will be a relationship. Never.” All you’ve done is give her hope that she can earn what she wants and she’ll try to earn it by making you change your mind.

I have let her know, in no unclear terms, that I am not exclusive to her, and if I meet another woman I want to be with, deal with it.

What you say doesn’t matter to her. It’s all about what she feels. You can tell her every day for a decade that you don’t want a relationship or exclusivity or marriage or a child, etc. and she’ll ignore it all while she plans your next trip together, the marriage ceremony, and what color you should paint the nursery walls. Then, after you’ve broken up and despite telling her the same thing daily for a decade, she’ll claim you never told her what you wanted.

Women instinctively follow the George Costanza Rule for Effective Lying: “It’s not a lie if you believe it.”

I am just at peace at the moment to finally be able to hang out with a woman, watch some tv, have sex, and then happily go our own way. I am glad to finally put behind me the arguing, bitching, and constant tug of war with these scumbag women.

That’s the bait. Are you going to mindlessly swallow the hook again?

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 3]

Somebody else is probably satisfying her bad boy, drama cravings unbeknownst to you.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I am happy for you, but please be careful.

I married a “nice girl” who treated me like a king initially- kind, thoughtful, respective.

She too believed in God. But that didn’t stop her from shacking up with her preacher
and cleaning out my bank account and putting me thru hell.

You are seeing what she wants you to see. In the “courtship” stage, everything is great.
(She can’t hook you while being a bitch). Once you have skin in the game and something to lose
(like a ton of money), you might see a different side of her.

Hell, I remember spending a fortune on psychiatric bills for my “nice” lady. She was too upset by her
adultery to work until my money ran out.

Marriage- absolutely no f—ing way. These ladies are masterful manipulators. There is a reason why they
leave a path of destruction wherever they go. Please be careful.

[MadScientistParticipant 131]

Until or unless the legal system changes to make it actually balanced:

1) No cohabitation with a romantic partner
2) No marriage
3) No children

Otherwise, you have just opened yourself up to decades of legal abuse, on her whim. It’s not about trust, its about the sword they are holding. Whether it is behind their backs, or on the table, it is still a damn sharp instrument, and they have it there, waiting for them to wield.

Even Frodo lost his battle with The One Ring.

Be careful.

–MS

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

So long as your happy, then good for you.

It is rather ironic though, that ANY time in the past a guy mentioned any semblence of peace or desire to be with a woman you seemed to scream out -‘AWALT!…’..’TRAITOR!’…

Either way, I wish you the best. Im glad you found a woman your currently happy with, and I hope it works out for you.

Best regards.

Resident cynic.

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

@snake – my good man, what are you thinking of!?
I have enjoyed your posts and contributions at mgtow, but you’ve surprised me with your post.
My ex-wife too was married for twenty years, twice. Nice conservative girl with big t~~~ and wide hips, sorry to warn you but she WILL disregard you once the ring is on her finger………….give it two years of co-habitation and you’ll regret it!
PLEASE don’t believe in the nawalt or unicorn, she DOESN’T exist.
Please brother, being mgtow can be hard work, but don’t give in now.

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

20 years married, that would put her very close to the wall. She is out of options and desperate. Of course she will be on her best behavior. And, even if by some strange miracle you came across a NAWALT, remember that power corrupts. They have all the power now through the legal system, and you never know what a slight change in her hormonal balance (menopause?) could trigger.
This has been said before, most of us here are not women haters, and many would prefer to be in relationships that would make both partners happier and safer than they were when single. unfortunately, this is not possible now both because of the change in mentality for the majority of women and because of the skewed laws. So, enjoy it while it lasts but don’t commit. If she really wants you, then having the same address or getting married should not be an issue. And don’t get her pregnant, or you’re done.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 9]

20 years of marriage?

Man come on Snake. You know something has to be up.

20 years dude?

I dated a chick for six years and I’m still dealing with s~~~ from back then.

I hope it works out for you though. But be careful as others have alluded too.

[stopmockingmanParticipant 441]

My mistress is a widow, not a divorcee- does not matter.
These warnings are for all women- and the true nature of C~~~.
With Wisdom and Time, comes Clarity and Understanding.
Proverbs 7-9New International Version (NIV)
Warning Against the Adulterous Woman

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

I have no plans to live with her(quickest way to ruin it) or marry her(I will never marry). She can’t have kids. Thank you all for the responses – you all speak the truth. That is good, in case someone younger or less experienced in the ways of women misunderstands me. Part of the reason why this has been working alright is because I now understand the nature of women. I don’t know what happened with her and her husband(not my business) but for whatever reasons, she has found herself back in the dating game, and it hasn’t been working out for her. Her options are quickly drying up, she is looking for another man she believes can provide for her, anything for her. I understand this, gentlemen.

With that being said, I am not against a merit-based “relationship”. And when I say relationship, I mean we get together, have fun, then go our separate ways. When we first got together I told her I am only interested in sex. Slowly and slowly I started spending an hour or two more with her, and seeing how she dealt with who I really am, and what I enjoy doing(I have no plans to ever humor a woman again; if they don’t like what I am doing – there’s the door). So when I said I wasn’t against a relationship, but she would have to earn it – this is the extent of it. A mistress, basically.

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