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Bear with me as I explain…
So you KNOW you’re intentionally testing the patience of your audience?
Get off Facebook, you fool.
My first thought as well.
And I am thrilled to see so many who shared that sentiment right out of the gate.So, after a week of fairly heated ‘debate’ with a couple of women of the old generation feminists,
My second thought: stop debating with women. There are so many reasons for this we could be here for a month. Here’s how you debate with women: completely play obtuse.
“Patriarchy s~~~lord oppression dimorphism cis-male transphobic… “
“Nice tattoo! You’ll be rockin’ that when you’re 80.”
patriarchy
more patriarchy
I do not approve of the old school patriarchy.
There is no such thing.
Pretend you are in a society made up of 10 men and 10 women. And one man gets off his butt and invents the internet, or builds an airplane, or composes an opera like Mozart, or answers one of the Universes most important questions….. Is that society “patriarchal”????
No. It’s just a society where men make the initiative to DO something like inventing the internet, or making money in the free market, or breaking records previously set by other men.
There’s no such thing as a patriarchy.
It’s called —>>> “the Real World”.It turns out in this “Real World”, men happened to actually DO something. They DO everything, are the only ones who show up to rebuild after disasters, make decisions and take the initiative to make everything – even sex with women – happen. Call it whatever you want, but what it’s actually called is: the truth.
Women don’t make the same initiative. Just look at the way they sit back with their arms and legs folded waiting for some guy to want to bang her. The guy’s gotta do every thing there too. Including paying for s~~~ – and and a girl will EXPECT men to. She’s got no business calling it a “patriarchy” either.
There is no “patriarchy”.
But there is a LAZY-archy.I very much doubt that we would be facing the crisis we are now between the genders.
That “crisis” is just as fabricated and the “war of the sexes” has been raging on since the beginning of time.
The only difference is now is that feminism — possibly for the first time in recorded history – has exposed to the world the TRUE female nature and it’s the WORST thing women could have done for themselves. There’s your crisis.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.So, after a week of fairly heated ‘debate’ with a couple of women of the old generation feminists,
STOP wasting your time arguing with idiots !!
It took me a couple of hours to write and edit
That’s a few more hours that you could have spent LEARNING about topics that directly affect you.
So, regarding the above, I’ve never really been religious, but if it were up to me, I think we would solve all our gender crap by returning our nation to Paganism.
Well, OK, but since Paganism isn’t going to be taking over any nation any time soon. Maybe, you should invest your time in educating yourself about REAL issues, but do what you want because that’s what going your own way is all about.
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Get off Facebook and grow up.
This. Your sermons on Facebook fall upon deaf ears. Find better things to do with your time.
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
As everyone else has said – ditch facebook. Although I find it highly unlikely that the OP will
We’ve long since moved on from those times, however, I was brought up to fight against inequality, ignorance and injustice by my Feminist mother and it has worked two-fold, as I now see men are losing their rights and respect in Western culture, hence my recent posts.
Old wave Feminism was close to the mark with equality and many women and men had come together to make it a powerful force and make change happen. I myself believed in it, as I was told Feminism was about equality, and at the time this seemed legit. Now though things have moved on from the old guard to the new. The new ‘3rd Wave’ is here along with a mess of other ‘Social Justice Warriors’, but this generation seeks to topple the scales into the favour of the female too far for my liking, as it would be an unhealthy society. The new wave uses the female need for the herd mentality to find empowerment, then spreads a message of hate to enrage the herd to act without reason or logic. These messages are anti-male. It upsets not only the balance but my personal inequality, ignorance, and injustice detector (and my bulls~~~ detector is off the scale!)
Feminism never had been about equality in the broader meaning of the word.
Feminism is about women’s empowerment on the grounds of equality to men.
It means:
If there’s a thing that can be construed as women having it worse than men, then feminists will promote change rebalacing or even flipping the balance.
It also means:
In a society where women dominate 9-in-10 major parameters/fields but men have a little advantage over women in the 10th parameter/field, then feminists will focus on such 10th parameter/field in order to make it better for women, without bothering about the other 9 parameters/fields where women are already dominating men.
A good example is education: women are already the majority, 60% of the total earned degrees, but feminists focus just only about STEM.
Feminism can led just only to a totalitarian matriarchy, but the problem is it isn’t easily to understand, because female power works differently from male power: female power is indirect, subtle, and mainly works through shaming – most matriarchal societies keep men in a subordinate position by socially shaming them when they do not comply.
Do you know how female bullying works?
Crying and making appeal to authority.
You should have see at leat one or two epsiodes of female bullying while at school.
Feminism is the same, but on a societal level.You see old feminism as “more about equality” just only because once the situation was better for men, but feminism never advocated for something different from women’s empowerment.
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What other forums are there then, where men and women are equally open to suggestion and news?
I’m new too, go easy.
The views of upper middle class white women are useless towards human progress.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
What other forums are there then, where men and women are equally open to suggestion and news?
I’m new too, go easy.
The views of upper middle class white women are useless towards human progress.
I disagree.
Feminism is an important force pushing evolution of humanity.
Just not in the way they think it is.
Feminism isn’t important for the evolution of humanity due “it’s making women and men equal”.
Feminism is important for the evolution of humanity because by making women and men suspectful of each other it pushes humanity towards transhumanism.
MGTOW is the next step towards transhumanism, it’s the male reaction to the female move.What does “avoiding women” precisely mean in the current socio-cultural context in the West? The word “avoid” entails some sort of active, deliberate, protective measure. My problem with that is that the “avoidance of women”, or a breakaway from women doesn’t look like that at all in practice today, because the social context of male-female interaction has changed completely in the last 2-3 decades.
This is something our pal Novaseeker has described before. In the bygone Western social system, young people were expected to regularly interact with one another in controlled, regulated environments, in a way that fostered productive, long-term, monogamous, assortative relationships. This was a sort of “holistic” milieu, so to speak, where young people treated one another as potential future partners, sexual and otherwise, in a socially regulated manner, in all cases when they were permitted to interact. This was even the norm in workplaces where both men and women were present. The average man found a girlfriend through his extended family or social circle, because families and social circles were normally large.
What we have today is the complete opposite: “sexual zoning”. Some mixed-sex environments, like the workplace, schools and campuses, are made completely asexual – sterile, so to speak. No sexualized interactions are permitted to take place. This is demanded by law and expected by society. In such environments, you’re supposed to treat members of the opposite sex strictly as colleagues or professionals, non-sexual beings. (Hot men are allowed to get away with more, of course, but that’s another issue.) Other mixed-sex environments, on the other hand, like nightclubs, are expected to be full-on sexual. Everybody there knows that all interactions entail the future possibility of casual sex. It’s basically a meat market. You’re expected to hit on girls, and girls expect to be hit on by attractive men. Socializing in these environments requires action, engagement. If you want to find a partner, either just for sex or something more, you have to go there, you have to have Game etc.
In other words, avoidance of women in the old days was an anti-social act of disengagement that was frowned upon. Today, avoidance of women merely means that you’re not expending excess energy and time to do certain things. It’s an “action” with few or no social repercussions – you won’t be socially ostracized or something. But technically it’s not an action. You’re basically “avoiding” women by not hitting the clubs on Saturday night. You’re avoiding them through simple inaction. You can have a full-time job, or go to college, have a social circle, have hobbies, buddies etc., basically a normie life, and still “avoid” women.
See?
Feminism created such sexual zoning and all the traps, MGTOW is the actual logical answer.How it’ll evolve such situation?
When yet another generation of technology diffuses into the market, the implications will be profound enough to tear the current sexual market asunder.
This site has written in the past about how haptic, motion sensing, and graphical technologies would elevate video games to the premier form of entertainment by 2012. 3-D/holographic images with haptic interfaces and sufficient AI will make rudimentary ‘virtual sex’ a technology available to many men well before 2020, but by 2020 we will see this cross certain thresholds that lead to a dramatic market impact far greater than contraceptive pills and Internet pornography combined. A substantial portion of the male population will drift into addiction to virtual sex without even realizing it.
For those (mostly women) who claim that the VR sex of 2020 would not be a sufficient substitute for the real thing, that drawback is more than superceded by the inescapable fact that the virtual woman would be made to be a 10/10+ in appearance, while the real women that the typical beta male user has access to would be in the 4-7 range. Real 10 > VR 10 > Real 7, making irrelevant the claim that a virtual 10 is not as good as a real 10 (under 1% of all women), when the virtual 10 is really competing with the majority of women who are 7s and lower. Women are largely unaware how vastly different the male reaction is to a 10 relative to a 7, let alone to women of even lower scores. As single men arrive home from work on Friday evening, they will simply default into their VR immersion, giving a whole new meaning to the concept of ‘beta testing’. These sequestered men will be conspicuously absent from the bars and nightclubs that were the former venues of expenditure and frustration, causing many establishments to go out of business. The brains of these men will warp to the extent that they can no longer muster any libido for the majority of real women. This will cause a massive devaluation in the sexual market value of most women, resulting in 8s being treated like 5s, and 35-year-old women unable to attract the interest of even 55-year-old men. The Wile E. Coyote moment for women will move a few years ahead, and the alphas with Game competence will find an even easier field of desperate women to enjoy.Transhumanism, so it begins.
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Anonymous22The views of upper middle class white women are useless towards human progress.
The upper middle class white women are one of the lowest forms of human waste on the planet.
Get away from facebook…
@oldbill
Great reply,brother. I agree with everything you said.
I doubt the OP will get your wisdom,though.
Cheers
NWThe upper middle class white women are one of the lowest forms of human waste on the planet.
I see no need to segregated ‘upper middle class white’ from any other women. And I wouldn’t use the term ‘lowest forms of human waste’, but that’s just me, and I get your point.
Ok. Then do it.
Get off Facebook, you fool.
Zuckerberg is a billionaire because he sells everything you give him for free to governments, corporations, and other Big Data organizations.
You’re freely giving them the chains they’re using to control you while Zuckerberg counts his money.
Get off Facebook and grow up.
Are you really naive enough to think Facebook is the only place that is spying on people? If you really respect your privacy to that level, you are better off discarding all modern technology. They have all been tuned to spy on people.
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Feminism was never about equality.For example:
Women were protesting for the right to vote while men who were being slaughtered in foxholes did not have that right.They didnt even have the right to elect the leaders who sent them to kill and die .
Feminism has always been about female supremacy.
Hence they say things like
“If women were in charge there would be no war”
Which history has proven to be absurd.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Are you really naive enough to think Facebook is the only place that is spying on people?
Nope. I’m well aware that the NSA and others spying on me every day.
What I won’t do, however, is help them spy on me. I won’t voluntarily give them information either. And I certainly don’t want some little prick making billions off my daily life.
If the NSA, the government, the multinationals, or any of the others want some piece of information about me, they’re going to have to digging for it. They’re going to have to work for it and find it the tsunami of data passing through their systems every second of every day.
What I won’t do is hand them everything they want to know on the silver platter of a Facebook page.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
What we have today is the complete opposite: “sexual zoning”. Some mixed-sex environments, like the workplace, schools and campuses, are made completely asexual – sterile, so to speak. No sexualized interactions are permitted to take place. This is demanded by law and expected by society. In such environments, you’re supposed to treat members of the opposite sex strictly as colleagues or professionals, non-sexual beings. (Hot men are allowed to get away with more, of course, but that’s another issue.) Other mixed-sex environments, on the other hand, like nightclubs, are expected to be full-on sexual. Everybody there knows that all interactions entail the future possibility of casual sex. It’s basically a meat market. You’re expected to hit on girls, and girls expect to be hit on by attractive men. Socializing in these environments requires action, engagement. If you want to find a partner, either just for sex or something more, you have to go there, you have to have Game etc.
In other words, avoidance of women in the old days was an anti-social act of disengagement that was frowned upon. Today, avoidance of women merely means that you’re not expending excess energy and time to do certain things.
This has actually favored men more than you can imagine.
Earlier, men didn’t have a choice. He could not contain his lizard brain because women were present everywhere and here were no restrictions to pursue them romantically.
But today, if a guy decides “No, I don’ want to fall into that trap”, all he has to do is STOP going to places like nighclubs where gaming is allowed, and he would have no problems.
This aspect of modernization has been a savior for people like me, especially in a very conservative society like it is in India (avoiding women is very frowned upon) because you are no longer made to feel like its your duty to marry up, have family and have kids etc. Of course, it’ll still be considered a taboo for a long time, but that would gradually straighten out overtime I believe.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Ok, so this is one of my first posts here, so some of you don’t know me yet.
My Facebook channel has many men and women on it, some are very left, some are in between, and some are fine with everything. I have made a few exploratory comments and started a few debates on gender issues. When I’ve expressed a few typical male comments a few women have surfaced to challenge them. I’ve sometimes been drunk as f~~~ and made poor judgement in some responses, which has enraged them and sadly given them ammo to use against me…but hey, f~~~ it lol.
So, after a week of fairly heated ‘debate’ with a couple of women of the old generation feminists, I decided to write the following. The paganism is just a veil to get the conversation kicked off, but helps make the text interesting and funny, and thus deflect pure hate from the women’s responses (hopefully).
It took me a couple of hours to write and edit, whilst drinking several pints of lager and making sure my pet cat wasn’t about to pooh/throw up all over my flat:
So, Paganism is making a comeback. Perhaps this is not such a bad thing.
With Halloween on our doorstep I thought about the ‘new’ Paganism and did a bit of research. Some of you may remember the film, ‘The Wicker man’. It featured an island in Scotland, dominated by Pagans. I remember seeing it as a young adult and thinking that, actually, it seemed kind of neat, despite the horrid ending of the poor Christian Policeman, played by Edward Woodward. It made me look into the Pagan beliefs and social structure and it raised some interesting possibilities if it were reintroduced.
Bear with me as I explain…
It may surprise some of you that have read any of my recent posts regarding the genders and society/western culture, but I do not approve of the old school patriarchy. I also am not too fond of the popular modern religions, which mostly promote patriarchy and thus inequality.
We’ve long since moved on from those times, however, I was brought up to fight against inequality, ignorance and injustice by my Feminist mother and it has worked two-fold, as I now see men are losing their rights and respect in Western culture, hence my recent posts.
Old wave Feminism was close to the mark with equality and many women and men had come together to make it a powerful force and make change happen. I myself believed in it, as I was told Feminism was about equality, and at the time this seemed legit. Now though things have moved on from the old guard to the new. The new ‘3rd Wave’ is here along with a mess of other ‘Social Justice Warriors’, but this generation seeks to topple the scales into the favour of the female too far for my liking, as it would be an unhealthy society. The new wave uses the female need for the herd mentality to find empowerment, then spreads a message of hate to enrage the herd to act without reason or logic. These messages are anti-male. It upsets not only the balance but my personal inequality, ignorance, and injustice detector (and my bulls~~~ detector is off the scale!)
One of the things that has changed, and how these messages are sent is that the media is now largely controlled by these anti-male power groups and they are quickly using this medium to remove what they see as the opposition. I’ve witnessed it first-hand for years in the UK from news reports to adverts. Your self-respect and pride as a male is a hurdle for them to overcome to see their goals, and they seek to chip away at it, advert by advert. Partly because of this, to be a male is seen as a bad thing as we are painted as the ‘bad guys’. Our pride has taken a beating over the last 30 years and now we are met with media showing us as inept and animal-like, including on the BBC, who are happy to offend men but would never dare the same with women. Political correctness has gone mad in the UK, which even the most blinkered of us has known for years. The BBC is an anti-male institution, paralysed by its own message of gender inequality. It can’t be seen to employ a white male over a disabled black lesbian woman, even if she can’t do the job and the male is the best of the best. You don’t need to be a genius to see how f~~~ed up this is.
Men built this world and invented almost all the wonders and technology people take for granted. We should be celebrated and congratulated, not ridiculed and made to feel inferior.
Never relinquish your self-respect and pride, as a man OR woman. Challenge anyone or any system that tries to step on you.
Love women, love men, get married if you want, have kids. For the guys, most (UK women at least) women are clever enough to smell the bulls~~~ like we are and are not just after your money/effort/sperm, and don’t become bitter just because of some new wave nutter’s or bad experience with gold diggers and manipulators or guys that just want to get you in bed and treat you like s~~~. Make babies, be proud of your family, post baby pics on Facebook for us all to see your pride and joy.
What I am trying to impart here is this: if you are male or female, be aware of the new wave lunatics. Some are male too, looking to get laid by being submissive and docile but failing to understand that true women want strong men.
You see an advert where men are made to look like pigs? Challenge it. See a music video where women are beating up men? Challenge it. Watch a woman on TV doing the dishes or ironing or hoovering? Challenge it. See a men only marathon for charity? Challenge it. See an Army poster asking for young men? CHALLENGE IT. Women, go learn how to shoot and repair an SA80 assault rifle, and if any man laughs at you, poke them in the eye with a 5.56mm NATO round! If you do it, I’ll be buying the drinks out of respect, not to get in your pants.
So, regarding the above, I’ve never really been religious, but if it were up to me, I think we would solve all our gender crap by returning our nation to Paganism. It understood and celebrated the core strengths of the male and female, and they worked in harmony together, not like it is now. If we were all still Pagans, I very much doubt that we would be facing the crisis we are now between the genders.
That being said, I would probably ban human sacrifice though…
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So anyway, that is the type of stuff I write. I tried to make it as gender friendly as I could so as to gain allies and hopefully increase my forum of readers.
Cheers!
dan.
Your thinking seems very feminised. Get off Facebook. There is no point arguing with feminists and manginas. They are too far gone. Absorb information here instead and rid your mind of brainwashing.
If you fall down 7 times, get up 8
You have a cat!
Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave
I’ll throw in my 0.2€.
First, Facebook is public, you can’t evade that, so use it personal (family) or business. I don’t think you can convince the “crowd”, as they have to discover things on their own. Your concern is what you should learn. To ensure your happiness.
So, I’ll throw in some lessons from TFM at Youtube, so you might learn the real difference between men and women.
MGTOW: Love and Hypergamy
The Zen of ZFG (Complete Series)
Feminism isn’t important for the evolution of humanity due “it’s making women and men equal”.
Feminism is important for the evolution of humanity because by making women and men suspectful of each other it pushes humanity towards transhumanism.
MGTOW is the next step towards transhumanism, it’s the male reaction to the female move.I suspect this is the trend that will transform humanity much more than when single-cell organisms transformed to multi-cell organisms. In short (and repeating myself), the MGTOW is the mammalian response to unnatural conditions (RE: Mouse Utopia).
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