I am glad I engaged here. I will go into a bit on my understanding of MGTOW (related to me) below, and what I find value. I also wanted to add, I need to reduce the amount of posting I do. I am likely to not pop in as much (that is the gameplan) but may if I want input. For me to go my own way, I need to DO things, and not just hang out in a forum and chat. Anyhow, I did want to post my thoughts on what I found and my take on MGTOW that fits myself, but maybe doesn’t fit others, and then I am off. Ok, the thoughts (and I think I have an effect of a red pill experience, at least I am seeing more now):
* For me, the core part of MGTOW is going one’s own way. I don’t see this as a specifically male thing. for me (I don’t care what the “real man are this” angle, I am who I am), but more of my personal liberation and empowerment. I think the whole “real men are this” is a tool of manipulation used by organizations and society to create this scoreboard to get guys to be k-rap they don’t need and outdo one another.
* I don’t give a f*ck. I would say figurative and literally. Nothing, not even the longing for sex, or any other impulse is to detract me from doing what I need. I am not to be gamed by the system and left to hold the bag.
* The PUA side, as much it may benefit to get a woman sometime (do it on your own terms), ties into the rich celebrity dude who has women on his arm and is a game for a guy to put down another guy. This is not by women, but guys playing other guys to stroke their own insecurity.
* What I am seeing with society that women are put in a place where they are supposed to be the center of the universe in a relationship, and men are supposed to do everything for her, and if lucky, she takes care of the guy. A woman is supposed to babysit a guy’s ego and tell him he is awesome, and he is to pour everything into her. This is supposed to create a family unit that is good for raising kids in, so they get to repeat the cycle. Women will end up in a passive judge role and expect the world to come to them, or stay home pouting that they can’t find a guy, because no one is busting down their door to tell them they are something special. Of course, when she gets a guy who goes above and beyond in regards to making her the center of his universe AND she doesn’t like him, it is consider stalking. It is the job of the guy to read all that, and know the difference, picking up her clues. If a guy ends up being more sane with things, and she is interested, if the guy didn’t reach the attention threshold, she thinks he isn’t interested at all.
* I am seeing a LOT of hurt guys on MGTOW forums. I am seeing a frame of the problem being primarily women are evil and THE problem. I don’t feel this way, but I go my own way, because it isn’t a fit. I see the problems for me being deeper. I don’t care how many women are the problem. I need to do things my own way, and see who fits. I find that no women really do at all. I see it as the problem is my fault here, not anyone else’s. I don’t believe there is some sort of giant conspiracy. I believe there ARE a bunch of Tumblrites who whine about the world, and from whom media types are part. They have first world problems, and want things different, and think they can doing what they do. People fall asleep and they get more. For myself, the way to do it is become stronger going my own way, and maybe I can help sometime. I am not going to blame women or so on. For myself, I see a broken system that was set up to make sure children are looked after and so on.
* I guess a good way to sum up where I am is I need to read up on Objectivism to give it a better shake and understand it. I think I need it more, and the Objectivist side of MGTOW is what I am into. I think it is probably the part a guy gets into once he gets over the hurt, and decides what to do with the rest of his life, or he decides he will decide what to do with the rest of his life and work it out.
* I don’t care if not all women are like that. For me, NO women will be like that in my life, if I can help it.
So, with this, I am likely to post less than I have been, and get on with my life. It is a do it myself job, and I need work with that. This involves doing. And that could mean I even drop off for months here, and maybe I am gone, but my plan isn’t that.
Anyhow, it isn’t really a good bye, but like more like until another time.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
treelville..miami 4 years, 8 months ago.
