So did all of that blow over?

[Dark Ninja DaveParticipant 273]

Cautiously optimistic new year to all!

I kind of took a break from visiting here a few months back, when things got a bit… disruptive.
It is nice being able to communicate with like-minded individuals, but ultimately, I didn’t need a website forum to go my own way.
Plus I was getting to the point where I might have exploded and lashed out; that wouldn’t have helped, so the best thing to do was hold my tongue.

Looks like things have settled down again – is that right?
No need to go into detail, as I gather there might be a few wounds…

I’ve been keeping myself busy with work, personal projects and other stuff in the meantime.
I am currently reading “The Courage To Be Disliked” by Ichiro Kishimi and Fumitake Koga.
It goes into detail about the psychology/philosophy of Alfred Adler, who was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud.
It is an interesting read, and a lot of the concepts covered have parallels with MGTOW: such as not living your life merely to meet the expectations of others.
Thought this would make an interesting subject on the forum in the future (I’m only about half way through), so that’s why I’m here again.

Cheers

Dave

[MonkParticipant 17057]

A senior army officer once revealed to me that one of the bars to promotion from the ranks to officer was tattoos.

Tattoos per se were not the problem, it was what they said about the individual. The herd get tattoos. What interested the promotion board was the man who refused to conform, who GHOW in the face of derision and pressure from the herd.

The man who wasn’t afraid to be disliked.

[Dark Ninja DaveParticipant 273]

Monk wrote:

A senior army officer once revealed to me that one of the bars to promotion from the ranks to officer was tattoos.
Tattoos per se were not the problem, it was what they said about the individual. The herd get tattoos. What interested the promotion board was the man who refused to conform, who GHOW in the face of derision and pressure from the herd.
The man who wasn’t afraid to be disliked.

Thanks for this anecdote Monk.
It suggests to me there is definitely some truth in this concept.

Not being afraid = courage

The title of this book really caught my attention, it did get me thinking.
It is clear that we, going our own way, are going to encounter some resistance and be disliked in general.
Courage could be the key to accepting and living with all the flak.
To stick to our guns, to not submit, and to not be dragged back to the plantation… just because we want/need to be “liked”.

[bladeParticipant]

Dark Ninja Dave wrote:

I’ve been keeping myself busy with work, personal projects and other stuff in the meantime.
I am currently reading “The Courage To Be Disliked” by Ichiro Kishimi and Fumitake Koga.
It goes into detail about the psychology/philosophy of Alfred Adler, who was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud.
It is an interesting read, and a lot of the concepts covered have parallels with MGTOW: such as not living your life merely to meet the expectations of others.
Thought this would make an interesting subject on the forum in the future (I’m only about half way through), so that’s why I’m here again.

Cheers

Dave

Dark Ninja Dave wrote:

Looks like things have settled down again – is that right?

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Dark Ninja DaveParticipant 273]

Ha!
Thanks Blade.
I often get the “I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that” from friends giving a negative response to a question.
Great movie, but haven’t seen it for ages, might be time to find a good HD copy!

That second video seems strangely relevant.

Anyway, good to see a few familiar names still around.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Monk wrote:

A senior army officer once revealed to me that one of the bars to promotion from the ranks to officer was tattoos.
Tattoos per se were not the problem, it was what they said about the individual. The herd get tattoos. What interested the promotion board was the man who refused to conform, who GHOW in the face of derision and pressure from the herd.
The man who wasn’t afraid to be disliked.

That is quite true. Often, the burden of leading takes you into taking decisions that are lose-lose, one you will lose big, other you will lose greatly. Both are s~~~ty decisions, and you have to push men forward and risk to get them killed, for meager gains, just so an order came through, or the situation became like this.
You KNOW you will get flak for this, from your men, if you risk their life for almost no gain, or from the top brass, if you tell them to go f~~~ themselves because you and your men are not cannon fodder. More often than not, officers choose the later.

I still have no tattoos to this day, even though I have left the army for almost 12 years.
Some things never change, I guess?

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Monk wrote:

The herd get tattoos.

It’s true. Way back in the long-long ago, they were non-conformist signs of rebellion. You didn’t walk into a tattoo parlor, flip through a book, and pick something that a thousand other people that week had picked. It was a permanent mark–like facial jewelry and general scarification, it was reserved for the men and the warriors. It showed a brutal, resilient toughness and provided the stoic warrior with a small measure of self-expression.

And then the 70s happened. Everybody started getting tattoos. The tough times were long gone. You had businessmen who got on a bike one weekend a month getting barbed wire on their fatty bicep because it made them look tough–they weren’t tough themselves. They weren’t warriors. Tattoos became a fashion accessory, except you can’t take it off at the end of the day and ten years down the road that sexy supermodel on your chest is going to be faded and have grandma t~~~ because you didn’t take care of yourself….and you’re stuck with it.

Tattoos are everywhere. When I worked retail, I was literally the only person on the job that wasn’t tatted up and pierced to the nines. I got my ear lobes done with 14-gauge rings because they’re small enough you can hide them when you want, and you can always change them out. I had several coworkers (females, go figure) who had full or partial arm sleeves, nasal piercings, naval piercings, multiple chains in their ears.

When I transitioned to the tech work I do now, I’m in a minority (roughly a third of my coworkers DON’T have ink).

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

Monk wrote:

A senior army officer once revealed to me that one of the bars to promotion from the ranks to officer was tattoos.

Tattoos per se were not the problem, it was what they said about the individual. The herd get tattoos. What interested the promotion board was the man who refused to conform, who GHOW in the face of derision and pressure from the herd.

The man who wasn’t afraid to be disliked.

There are different reasons to get tattoos. Some reasons are for vanity and same are to honor someone or something.

I know a few people with tattoos of someone they cared about whom died, with the loved one’s name, a small loving message, the date of birth and date of death.

Though, usually a person who loses someone and wishes to honor that person in their everyday life will get a stick for their vehicle with their loved one’s name, a small loving message, date of birth, and date of death.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Welcome back.

It looks like the majority of the troll rush has blown over and things are back to what passes for normal. I’m not in here as much as I have been, but I’m still around. Here’s to 2019. May it be the best year yet.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[Dark Ninja DaveParticipant 273]

Deadly Raver wrote:

Welcome back.
It looks like the majority of the troll rush has blown over and things are back to what passes for normal. I’m not in here as much as I have been, but I’m still around. Here’s to 2019. May it be the best year yet.

Thanks man, that’s good to hear.
The signal-to-noise ratio was getting a bit too low, too hard to get a point across when it was being drowned out.

When I’m finished reading “The Courage To Be Disliked”, I’ll start a proper discussion about it here.
If it goes into how we can build up our “courage”, through changing our way of thinking or some other method…
Well, I reckon this could be good advice to pass onto MGTOW brothers (and maybe those that are halfway there) to help us live the best lives we can.

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

I work in the ED and see this constantly. I don’t look down on those with tattoos, as I was young once and got one. However, these days, it is overdone. I see a new medic and within a year, they have a full or partial sleeve. I see a new nurse and within 6 months, they have some medical themed tattoo. It’s usually an incorrect heart rhythm tracing or the Caduceus which is also incorrect. The symbol for healthcare is the Rod of Asclepius. Whatever makes you happy or feel good.

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

NoMore wrote:

or the Caduceus which is also incorrect

I’m personally partial to the staff of Hermes. You know, that symbol of trade and reciprocity, so you know that modern medicine has very little to do with actual healing anymore. Truth in advertising.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

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