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Brothers, it came to my attention in the thread “Women are mean say the elderly” that user, Moonlight, believes in the possibility of “good wives”. Apparently, Roosh believes this as well, since his recent article was titled “How The Government Is Robbing Men Of Good Wives”.
First, I want to focus in on “good”. There is good as in better than average, and there is good as in morally correct, or commendable. I want to eliminate the meaning of good as in better than average, because a bad wife might be better than a terrible wife, but how is that a good thing for a man? It isn’t. It’s still a raw deal.
So let’s focus in on the “morally commendable” “good wife”. How many men have you seen marry down to a less fortunate woman and provide for her while she enjoys quality time with her children and taking care of the house? Plenty throughout the course of history, I would imagine. Now how many wealthy women do you see marry down to a poor, homeless, but good-hearted man, have his kids and provide for him, while he enjoys being a stay-at-home-dad?
Apparently, men are still wanting to line up to play slave to a manipulative parasite and believe in their blue-pill conditioning they have a good deal, a “good wife”. Women have money, women have agency, and women have opportunity. The day they stop being hypergamous and marry down and be a morally commendable person to a less fortunate man, is the day it can be said that there are good wives.
Anonymous11These scheming c~~~s have been documented for thousands of years universally across all cultures. It’s what they are.
No, I only see women dumping good men who lose their jobs while letting non-working Chads free load. Good wives only exist in the minds of those who have not purged themselves of blue pill entirely.
Granted, some women are WAY worse than others. AWALT still rules.
These scheming c~~~s have been documented for thousands of years universally across all cultures. It’s what they are.
Some cultures marriage is/was actually pretty damn epic for men. Women were married off as virgins and came with a dowry and if they disobeyed you or displeased you it was accepted by society that you beat them into obedience. I wouldn’t exactly say marriage in a society like that was a bad deal for a man when women were pretty much just used for babies, blowjobs, and backhands.
What goes on in our modern feminist society is at the s~~~ty end of the spectrum…its not like women pulled the s~~~ they do here in every society ever documented. There are still countries where families will murder their daughters for getting raped because they had premarital sex. That’s just so far from women making proven false rape claims and not even being punished and f~~~ing 30+ dudes before you are ready to settle down being acceptable behavior.
Anonymous11Some cultures marriage is/was actually pretty damn epic for men
Similar to how it used to be here say 70 years ago. We’re so far off the Bell Curve now there are no words.
Modern Western women are cyanide for a man. Why the hell any rational man would sign a legally binding contract with a woman who can break the contract at will for any reason and financially rape him is beyond me. Again, I watch blue pillers of which there are no shortage.
I don’t understand why a reversal of traditional gender roles constitutes a good wife. Besides the fact that it’s rare for a woman to financially provide for a man, it is also rare for a man to want to be taken care of by a woman. I certainly do not.
I don’t know what all constitutes a good wife anymore, but I do know it must have a commitment similar to the commitment between a parent and a child. A parent doesn’t disown his child because they are boring, ugly, or just not what they had hoped for when they decided to have a baby. A child does not leave his family because Billy’s Dad makes more money or because Sally has a MILF for a mom. Will a wife leave her husband because she’s ‘not feeling it anymore’? Absolutely.
Ok. Then do it.
Some cultures marriage is/was actually pretty damn epic for men.
women were pretty much just used for babies, blowjobs, and backhands.
And this woman never cheats and never brings me an STD, and never cucks me. They never lie about what they’ve been doing all day while I am at work, because women are sugar and spice and everything nice, and they better damn well be or I am going to get out my belt….SMH. Women have always been dangerous to men and not in his best interest.
I don’t understand why a reversal of traditional gender roles constitutes a good wife.
You are misunderstanding, it isn’t about reversing gender roles, it is about a woman performing a major selfless act for a significant other. The third paragraph mentions a scenario in which this could be the case. I certainly do not agree with it being rare for a man to want to be taken care of by a woman, when it has been pointed out that the Freudian desire for a man to want his wife to mother him(unconditionally love him, a.k.a. mommy complex) is a major problem with men taking the red pill and moving beyond a woman ever truly caring about him.
The last paragraph was the finishing statement and mentions nothing of gender role reversal. A wealthy woman can marry down, but still want to be a mom, but allow the man she loves to do whatever the hell he wants to do(work a job if that’s what he desires). This almost never happens, and the times it does, have been documented to not stop her from pulling the pin on the divorce grenade.
Now how many wealthy women do you see marry down to a poor, homeless, but good-hearted man, have his kids and provide for him, while he enjoys being a stay-at-home-dad?
I don’t think many men, even blue pil manginas, will allow himself to be married to a woman, regardless of her SMV, if she is financially better off than him. Men have an ‘ego’ factor.
Moreover, I think even if the woman earns more, she’d not ‘take care’ of her husband.. she’s not legally or morally or socially obliged to do so. The man has to fend off for himself…. work a part time job, get dissed by his friends.. sustain attacks on his self-esteem and then deal with the nagging of his wife at home.
In a culture like ours where arranged marriages are common, I’ve seen men of lower income strata reject women of higher income strata just because she is a ‘career woman’. She was beautiful, traditional but fair SMV, and she still got rejected. Men always hold themselves to a higher standard than woman, and for valid reasons too.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Dudes, this discussion is pretty awesome, and I figure I might as well weigh in on it.
The AWALT belief is technically untenable. There will always be someone, somewhere, who, in a real discussion, will be able to point to his or her grandmother, sister, aunt, what-have-you, and say: “Here is a NAWALT!”
You can’t disprove what he or she said, and you can’t possibly be present for a woman’s entire life to watch every detail just so you can find a moment when she slips up and say “Aha! AWALT!”
Besides, we must accept that no woman is perfect, just as no man is perfect, and that there are those rare women out there who will stay with their husbands through thick and thin because they love them, even when they have other options. Statistically, it is nearly impossible for there to be absolutely zero unicorns (as in a woman who treats her husband well, is respectful, doesn’t cheat, works to maintain herself, is generally pleasant to be around, and pulls her weight in a relationship) in the approximately 3,209,000,000 women who live on earth.
The truth is, though, that the NAWALT argument still doesn’t fly. Even if a full 50% of women were unicorns, it still doesn’t change the fact that I would still have at least a 10% chance of getting screwed over in a relationship, which is not even close to being worth it.
Men across the world need to understand that, in the vast majority of cases in developed countries, the only reason men get married is because they are thinking with their little head, or they have been brainwashed into it. According to the male-scarcity theory, it is generally only when women have no options other than men that they will be good wives en masse, so in poorer countries it is possible that there might be more unicorns, but I would call it likely that they are only so because they have no other option. It’s like Keymaster’s hand-grenade analogy. I don’t give a rip if not-all-women-are-like-that. It still isn’t worth it to have a relationship in the present environment if the entire system is so skewed against men.Conclusion: AWALT works for the forums, but if you are ever in an intellectual discussion in the real world, ASSPOWALT will be much more suitable and will cover all your bases, plus no one will be able to disprove you.
Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...
AWALT, always.
Women everywhere, throughout time, have always fitted AWALT.
I’ve never seen a NAWALT unicorn and I know if they did exist at one time, they’re all dead now
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
What a topic. And damn, those were some great responses. I can’t add much but it did trigger a thought. First of all, I’m a sinner saved by grace, nothing less, nothing more. What I’m going to say is not meant to offend any particular religion or faith. But I grew up in the “bible belt”. And from the time I was a “youngen” as we say here in the south, I’ve heard that stupid ass saying, “Now son, you need to find ya a good wife”. That is beat in to our heads relentlessly before we even reach puberty. And it never stops until you sign up to be some woman’s bitch. And the irony for me is, God’s word says, “No one is good, no not one”. And it also describes mankind, men and women, as having “hearts that are desperately wicked”. Hmmmm…well, if God himself said no one is good, how in the hell can a man find a good “woman” or “wife”. I’m sure someone can explain that to me but I do find a s~~~load of hypocrisy in that “good wife” fallacy. It doesn’t exist. Like Pvt MGTOW stated above, some women do stand by their man through thick and thin. But IMHO, that doesn’t make them “good”. They still have that sin of Eve running through their DNA. Just my take.
No matter how (insert any adjective with a complimentary connotation) she is, someone somewhere is tired of her s~~~.
“We are on strike, we, the men of the mind. We are on strike against self-immolation. We are on strike against the creed of unearned rewards and unrewarded duties. We are on strike against the dogma that the pursuit of one's happiness is evil. We are on strike against the doctrine that life is guilt.”
Now how many wealthy women do you see marry down to a poor, homeless, but good-hearted man, have his kids and provide for him, while he enjoys being a stay-at-home-dad?
I don’t think many men, even blue pil manginas, will allow himself to be married to a woman, regardless of her SMV, if she is financially better off than him. Men have an ‘ego’ factor.
I’ll agree that ego is a big problem for men, but to say that most men wouldn’t want a wife that makes more money…I dunno man. I would gladly be with a woman that makes more than me, and I’m sure plenty of men would as well.
Of course, I don’t believe a person’s worth is measured by jobs and money.
I’ll agree that ego is a big problem for men, but to say that most men wouldn’t want a wife that makes more money…I dunno man. I would gladly be with a woman that makes more than me, and I’m sure plenty of men would as well.
Of course, I don’t believe a person’s worth is measured by jobs and money.
An attractive high-earning woman marrying a low-earning beta is an unviable situaion and contradicts all sorts of principles. I don’t think men have many thoughts like : “I’ll find a good rich working attractive wife so that I could live off her income” …. men’s thoughts are more in the lines of : “I’ll find a good hard-working and attractive wife who’s not so financially sound than me… maybe equal but not more” because society will shame them.
“Do you have no shame? You being a man sit all day at home doing nothing while your wife, being a woman, works so hard and brings home the bread. I don’t know what she saw in you, she could have easily got some other attractive rich man given her status!” (Side note: You’ll notice the double standard if ou reverse the roles,i.e., ‘hard-working attractive man’ and a ‘landwhale wife’)I don’t know about the cheaps… they would do anything to freeload off other people, even women. But they are rare.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I follow the government policies to figure out on a grand scale who the NAWALT’s or AWALT’s are and from my extensive research NAWALT’s dont exist.Your grandmother advocated or help push feminist policy rather she was in the room or in her living room why? Because I still havent seen an anti-feminist march against the 1st wave period! The AWALT’s have died off decades ago and even then they were that way because of environmental reasons. The hypergamy brakes are off and true female nature is being exposed so men need to accept the reality that your pre-puberty instincts were right until testosterone sprinklers started going off along with some social engineering to create this blue pill idiot! Now keep swallowing the red pills and stop trying to throw them up listening to the PUA,my granny is great,my mother is different nonsense. We are indifferent period!
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
I am linking this video here that was brought to my attention by Soldier-Medic because it touches on the same subject at several points.
I guess I can’t blame you guys for being so negative.
Yea lets see women marching against feminism and burning their clothes and giving out blowjobs.
Lets see a role reversal with women in mass paying for a majority of dates.
Lets see the women in China stop complaining about not being able to find a man because men out number women there.
See “I would rather cry in a Mercedes than be happy on a bicycle”
Lets see women march for innocent men.
Lets see women protest for compensation for the Duke LaCross boys and all the others who have suffered that humilitation.
Lets see women protest for innocent men.
Lets see women march to be forced to be included in Selective Service.
Lets see false paternaty drop to zero.
Lets see women protest to get equal punishment for domestic violence.
Lets see women stop asking men what they do for a living.
Despite what some might think i know a lot of men that would be happy to marry a rich woman who cared about him and treated him well while he lived on easy street on her Dollars.
Despite what you might think women ARE hypergamous. Thats why women mostly want men to pay for dates.
Thats why women go for doctors and CEOs
Lets see women protesting about other women objectifying men.
A mans success or lack of success is no womans bussiness.Lets see a large percentage of women say that.
DONT EVER TRY TO TELL ME NAWALT!!!
Women have an In Group Bias.
Look it up.AWALT
Females practice hypergamy.Human or not.
AWALT
The way women objectify men omits men from being elidgable for empathy.
AWALT
Nope you are a man and outside of certain circumstances women dont give a f~~~ about you or your life.
AWALT.
Do an experiment.
Have a female friend beat your ass in public and see how many women interfere.AWALT
And then try it the other way around.
AWALT.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Yea lets see women marching against feminism and burning their clothes and giving out blowjobs.
Lets see a role reversal with women in mass paying for a majority of dates.
Lets see the women in China stop complaining about not being able to find a man because men out number women there.
See “I would rather cry in a Mercedes than be happy on a bicycle”
Lets see women march for innocent men.
Lets see women protest for compensation for the Duke LaCross boys and all the others who have suffered that humilitation.
Lets see women protest for innocent men.
Lets see women march to be forced to be included in Selective Service.
Lets see false paternaty drop to zero.
Lets see women protest to get equal punishment for domestic violence.
Lets see women stop asking men what they do for a living.
Despite what some might think i know a lot of men that would be happy to marry a rich woman who cared about him and treated him well while he lived on easy street on her Dollars.
Despite what you might think women ARE hypergamous. Thats why women mostly want men to pay for dates.
Thats why women go for doctors and CEOs
Lets see women protesting about other women objectifying men.
A mans success or lack of success is no womans bussiness.Lets see a large percentage of women say that.
DONT EVER TRY TO TELL ME NAWALT!!!
Women have an In Group Bias.
Look it up.AWALT
Females practice hypergamy.Human or not.
AWALT
The way women objectify men omits men from being elidgable for empathy.
AWALT
Nope you are a man and outside of certain circumstances women dont give a f~~~ about you or your life.
AWALT.
Do an experiment.
Have a female friend beat your ass in public and see how many women interfere.AWALT
And then try it the other way around.
AWALT.
Couldnt have said it better myself.
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
A lot of those “Good Wives” are cheating on their husbands; committing paternity fraud as well as committing financial fraud by skimming money from joint accounts and hiding it. Also many of those “Good Wives” are planning and calculating the best time to initiate a divorce in order to maximize the amount of money they can get from a Judgement (Alimony, Community Property, as well as access to retirement funds) from the Family Court System.
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