So, aparently, I am a nice guy…

[Anonymous 1]

Howdy yo,

So, there was an instance that happened a few days ago, that I’ve been holding up, but I decided to share.

As some of you might remember, on the place where I train martial arts, there was this woman that I was somewhat attracted to. I started to ignore her as much as I could, part of me wanted to see her reaction, but as time passed by I kept doing just because it was better to avoid any f~~~ing drama. I was not rude or anything, but I avoided ANY contact with her. Unless I had no choice, I would not aknoledge her whatsoever. And for a time, that was my routine and to be honest, I was pretty satisfied with it.

Fast forward a few days ago, some people from the academy decided to go out to a park. It was last minute to me, so I wasn’t prepared, but I decided to go nevertheless. As time passes, at one point, I saw myself near this woman I mentioned before, and a couple of common friends of ours. That’s when she throws me this pearl, out of nowhere: “You are a nice guy. Unlike the typical Brazilian guy, that tries all sorts of tricks with me”. As I clearly seemed confused, not sure if that was a compliment or not she sees the need to complement and adds: “Don’t worry, that’s a compliment”.

Now, some background is necessary:

I only talk to women that are older than me and that I feel there is no sexual attraction from my part. That is so I can avoid any comlpications whatsoever. Therefore, I’ve been avoiding talking with this particular gal like the devil avoid the cross.

The woman in question has the attention from EVERY MALE on the academy. Most of them are way taller and stronger than me (with six packs and all), so there is another reason why I don’t even bother with her.

That being said, I got some conclusions from this little exchange:

a) The first though I had was that was not a compliment, but more of a backhanded compliment. Since I always made sure to not give her anymore attention than the absolute necessary, this “you are a nice guy” speech seemed an attempt of her trying to validate herself over my lack of interest. It is like a girls saying “You can’t break up with me, cause I am breaking up with you” type of thing.

b) Even if I believe there is no hidden meaning on her compliment, I do have to wonder how much attention she is used to, for her to consider a guy that DON’T GIVE A F~~~ about her to be considered a “nice guy”. Seriously, if I were the blue pill type, that gives her attention, compliments or gifts, I could even understand her thinking of me as a “nice guy” (meanwhile she f~~~s the other men that are stronger), but I DON’T. In fact, I do quite the opposite! I avoid her as much as I can to no be caught on any drama whatsoever.

So yeah, that is a little story for you guys. I though it was pretty interesting set of events. By me doing nothing, and I mean NOTHING, I suddenly am a nice guy and not like your “typical Brazilian”. I guess I will continue being a “nice guy” by going my own way then. 😀

Anyhow, that is it for now.

Have a nice weekend.

Cheers

[ClintParticipant 331]

I’ll tell you what it means.

You are a nice guy.

You should now live up the expectations I just set to you and be my beta orbiter.

Unlike the typical Brazilian guy, that tries all sorts of tricks with me

I’m clearly high-status because all of the other guys chase me. I don’t fall for them though because I’m an innocent snowflake. (wink)

Also just to clarify: It’s a very good manipulation tactic to set a standard for someone before they even show it to you, and because the person on the receiving end doesn’t want to disappoint the complimenter, they take on the role they were assigned subconsciously.
So basically, she probably doesn’t think you’re a nice guy (you just said she doesn’t even f~~~ing know you), but she is setting the bar for you, and normal blue-pillers with be like “oh she thinks I’m nice, I better not let her down!” and do exactly what she wants. She’s a pro.

"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you into something else is the greatest accomplishment." -Ralph Waldo Emerson

[Anonymous 1]

Clint wrote:

You should now live up the expectations I just set to you and be my beta orbiter.

Oh man, she will be sooooo disapointed.

Clint wrote:

So basically, she probably doesn’t think you’re a nice guy (you just said she doesn’t even f~~~ing know you), but she is setting the bar for you, and normal blue-pillers with be like “oh she thinks I’m nice, I better not let her down!” and do exactly what she wants.

And you know the sad part? In the past I would have fallen for that… and fallen HARD. The thing is, there was a korean girl that did that to me already before. And she pretty much FORCED FEED ME red pills. To the point I actually got depressed later on. Luckly she was also a bitch and did not see too much use for me, so she left me relatively “unscathed”. And both this current girl and the korean one before her were older than me, and I was attracted to them for reasons beyond my compreension. Funny how things work.

Anyway, that only reinforces what started as a hint. I see s~~~storms ahead. I shall take cover, cause I already suspect she is f~~~ing one “alpha” from the place I train, and he is known for not holding back at sparring against ANYONE (including women).

I shall keep you guys informed if anything else happens.

Thank you for the feedback.

Cheers.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I remember your previous post about this woman.

I remember, years ago, I was going to a “Hail and Farewell”.  A military get together in the Army in which those that are being reassigned and the newcomers are recognized.  There was this dude’s wife that kept trying to make eye contact with me.  I kept ignoring it.  Afterward, I asked the other guys what was going on.

They all related that they had similar experiences with this woman.  I concluded that she was a woman that needed to be validated through male attention.

This woman that you speak of sounds like she is from the same school.  If you don’t notice her then she is invalidated.  If you do, then she is.  She took the opportunity to to “feel you out” so to speak.  In doing so, she “gave you permission” to pay attention to her.

You have her permission to pay attention to her.  But only because you are not “Like the other Brazilian guys”.

A cheese wheel deserves more attention.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[kizellParticipant 368]

I get this from occasion with women too.  The unearned compliment out of nowhere.   It’s just another deceptive move of manipulation.

She is basically offering you praise, and because she thinks you are weak minded (which you are clearly not), she thinks you will become addicted to more praise.  Eventually, if you were a weak beta, she could use your addictive need for praise against you for her own purposes.

I constantly warn guys about not becoming addicted to praise from women.  Guys that are f~~~ing girls left and right get no up front praise like this.  It’s because she considers him of strong mind and must give up some pussy before compliments come.  She knows that a player cares nothing about praise from a particular woman because he knows it would be insincere since his form of game is to be more of a confident dick.

I saw it all the time with my good friend.  He looked like a model.  He f~~~ed a girl every time we went to the bar.  As for me only about 10 to 20 percent of the time.  I would get some up front praise but remarkably he never received any despite all the bitches he f~~~ed.

The bottom line is that bitches don’t pull out praise to guys they want to f~~~, but only guys they want to control/manipulate.

[kizellParticipant 368]

kizell wrote:

I get this from occasion with women too. The unearned compliment out of nowhere. It’s just another deceptive move of manipulation. She is basically offering you praise, and because she thinks you are weak minded (which you are clearly not), she thinks you will become addicted to more praise. Eventually, if you were a weak beta, she could use your addictive need for praise against you for her own purposes. I constantly warn guys about not becoming addicted to praise from women. Guys that are f~~~ing girls left and right get no up front praise like this. It’s because she considers him of strong mind and must give up some pussy before compliments come. She knows that a player cares nothing about praise from a particular woman because he knows it would be insincere since his form of game is to be more of a confident dick. I saw it all the time with my good friend. He looked like a model. He f~~~ed a girl every time we went to the bar. As for me only about 10 to 20 percent of the time. I would get some up front praise but remarkably he never received any despite all the bitches he f~~~ed. The bottom line is that bitches don’t pull out praise to guys they want to f~~~, but only guys they want to control/manipulate.

[UntamedParticipant]

Hi BadKan.

“The mouth is designed to utter many words, but few truths come out of it.”

She’d been waiting for you to approach her and since you didn’t, she came out with the most generic bulls~~~ her little mind could fathom at the moment. It wasn’t designed as a compliment, since she HAD to stress the point, but she hoped you’d take it that way. Your response ( mannerisms and utterances ) gave her what she was looking for: an insight into you, so little could it be. Women are CURIOUS by nature and your MGTOW aura stood out from the pack. She JUST HAD to find out what you’re about.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[RobinParticipant 17]

Anonymous wrote:

Since I always made sure to not give her anymore attention than the absolute necessary, this “you are a nice guy” speech seemed an attempt of her trying to validate herself over my lack of interest. It is like a girls saying “You can’t break up with me, cause I am breaking up with you” type of thing. 

I can’t say what applies to your situation, but looking at this in a very general way this seems a pretty cogent explanation for the “Nice Guy” label where no interest has been expressed.  It’s also used to deflect interest.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s when she throws me this pearl, out of nowhere: “You are a nice guy. Unlike the typical Brazilian guy, that tries all sorts of tricks with me”. As I clearly seemed confused, not sure if that was a compliment or not she sees the need to complement and adds: “Don’t worry, that’s a compliment”.

She is going to be SOOOO P~~~ED when you continue to ignore her.

I feel like making popcorn.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I learned to get instantly offended when someone calls me a “nice guy”. I would make a face and, depending on a situation, say something like “that was rude. a nice guy? what did I do to deserve this? sheesh! you don’t even (f~~~ing) know me (bitch)!” and walk away

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[whatpricehParticipant 12]

Also, if she was hot, and you were the only guy ignoring her, she was letting  you know, you can talk to her so that she can turn you down as well.

 

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

If women are calling you a nice guy, then that has to change. Kindness is weakness in the eyes of a woman.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[Anonymous 1]

J.D Silvernail wrote:

If women are calling you a nice guy, then that has to change. Kindness is weakness in the eyes of a woman.

Well, that is the thing: I really don’t care if she thinks I am weak, now do I?

I mean, really, why change anything in order to make her think I am stronger? I though it was extremely funny this little situation I am in right now. And, unless she forces my hand, I see no need to prove to her I am not “weak”. Let her think whatever she like, she is the one doing the moves so far, I will keep going my own way. 😀

whatpriceh wrote:

Also, if she was hot, and you were the only guy ignoring her, she was letting you know, you can talk to her so that she can turn you down as well.

You have no idea how much truth you nailed in this sentence. Another fun fact: she is about to hit the wall, really soon. Which would explain her sudden interest on yours trully.

Russky wrote:

I learned to get instantly offended when someone calls me a “nice guy”. I would make a face and, depending on a situation, say something like “that was rude. a nice guy? what did I do to deserve this? sheesh! you don’t even (f~~~ing) know me (bitch)!” and walk away

You know, I really thought about that at the time. But than it seemed too much trouble for little reward. That would lead to an actual conversation, and as I stated before, I actually got used to ignore her. But this is definitely something I will reserve for someone else in the future.

sidecar wrote:

She is going to be SOOOO P~~~ED when you continue to ignore her. I feel like making popcorn.

I am actually wondering about that. I would guess (and hope) that she will just forget about me if I keep doing what I am doing. But if she does overeact, depending on her reaction, it might be something fun to see.

Soldier-Medic wrote:

You have her permission to pay attention to her.  But only because you are not “Like the other Brazilian guys”.

A cheese wheel deserves more attention.

Already nailed one on my room. All hail the CHEESE! As for her… I think I will pass.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

A cheese wheel deserves more attention.

A toasted cheese sandwich with Mexican salsa sounds good about now.

kizell wrote:

The bottom line is that bitches don’t pull out praise to guys they want to f~~~, but only guys they want to control/manipulate.

Yep, that is my experience, and it is 100% accurate.

whatpriceh wrote:

Also, if she was hot, and you were the only guy ignoring her, she was letting  you know, you can talk to her so that she can turn you down as well.

Yep! Saying “no” is the height of her entertainment; it makes her day.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Thank you for sharing man.

My daily dose of red pill moments.

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[Anonymous 11]

I remember as a teen being told I was a nice guy for the first time. Naively, I thought it to be a good thing. I eventually learned it’s the kiss of death. That’s so true about praising guys they want to manipulate. I can see that pattern so clearly looking back across my life.

I don’t ever hear that I’m a nice guy these days so I must be doing something right. I am a nice guy until someone hits my boundaries.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Very funny story, thanks for sharing.

In her hamster sized mind all things with penises are dying to get into her golden vag.  She just is assuming your method is to be more subtle than most “Brazilian” guys she knows (sorry to say, macho mangina’s all).

She can’t fathom that you think of her the way a mongoose thinks of a viper.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[aeragoanParticipant 1186]

When women said to you …you are nice guy it means you can be easily replaceable,boring and a wallet to her ….

[MochaParticipant 90]

There’s a chapter  on this from the manipulated man by Esthar Villar. It’s well worth a read.

 

The gist of it is, compliments are a form of soft control. Men have been conditioned from childhood to seek validation from others through compliments. “Wow, this room is really clean.” or “I’ve never seen a tower of blocks so high!” Men don’t compliment each other often, but women use it all the time. Withholding compliments when you’ve “earned” one is also a form of manipulation, a sharp rebuke.

 

In other words, she was trying to condition your behavior in the future through a compliment. She wants you to seek her approval with future actions.

[MochaParticipant 90]

Russky wrote:

I learned to get instantly offended when someone calls me a “nice guy”. I would make a face and, depending on a situation, say something like “that was rude. a nice guy? what did I do to deserve this? sheesh! you don’t even (f~~~ing) know me (bitch)!” and walk away

 

I had a coworker try this on me a month ago. ”

“You’re such a nice guy!”

“Nope.”

“Yes you are. Why would you say that?”

“Because you don’t know me.”

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