So alt-right is really racist in nature?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I am not getting this from the left critics, but when I run into videos trying to explain what alt-right is, you seem to have vanguard individuals who say alt-right is about white identity, and that other races can’t hold western values and culture in any way. Is this correct?

I ran into this video where the speaker argues that other people of other racists can’t hold western values, and only whites can:

I am trying to go my own way, and feel I can borrow whatever damn values I want from wherever I want, and see any attempt to put me in a box due to what genetics I have, to be oppressive, and against my own interests. I consider these racial nationalists also will go after men who are going MGTOW (not marrying) and trying to go their own way. They join with tradcons and tell them to “man up” for the sake of their race.

Maybe I am wrong. Please feel free to comment.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

When it comes to bigotry, the “smelt it dealt it” rule applies. Those whom are making the major of accusations of bigotry towards others tend to be the worst bigots.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

I don’t know much at all about the Alt-Right apart from that there is a contingent of White supremacists within it who are p~~~ed off about it being stolen from them.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Cultural diversity = white genocide.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Maybe some are, maybe it is just a shame tactic.

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[RedRojasParticipant 559]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I am trying to go my own way, and feel I can borrow whatever damn values I want from wherever I want, and see any attempt to put me in a box due to what genetics I have, to be oppressive, and against my own interests.

Never let anyone put a label on you. Only you can determine what you really are.

Consistency is victory - Ultra Magnus

[Anonymous 24]

Being a white Libertarian I guess I am part of this group. Though I am AS FAR from being racist as you will find. I think the reality of the situation is that SOME of the Alt-Right are of this racist nature. Many are also HIGHLY Nationalistic. I have no problem with Nationalism really when it comes to responsible border protection and immigration, but when I see guys justify war, invasions, use of nukes on civilians then be outraged by 9/11… It gets f~~~ing crazy. Really these guys are not right wing. Right wing wants small government and war is health to the State. And the U.S. wins in this department hands f~~~ing down. Massive Military, massive government…I am “Alt-Right” and I am for non-intervention except in EXTREME situations which there have been few in my opinion since WWII, certainly some genocides in Africa where we should have stepped in, and we should not be supporting Israel but condemning it. Racism? Not from me. Ever. In fact I more often than not take the side of the oppressed darker skinned people such as the Palestinians and formerly oppressed Native Americans, and African Americans.

Since Obama has been in office, a black man, Africa has been left as it was before, abandoned and starving in many places. While he has kept supporting white controlled Israel’s continued oppression of the darker skinned people who they stole the country from and will never give citizenship to. That is racist as f~~~. Yet Obama shills for these guys, funds them, wages never ending war for them against countries they want destroyed filled with brown and black people, and continues to look the other way as Israel kills sometimes thousands per year while continually stealing lands. If that s~~~ is not racist, I don’t know what is.

[Anonymous 3]

It’s funny that to say that you’re pro-white identity makes you racist but to shout “Black Power” or to wear a “Native Pride” hat just makes you in touch with your culture/community.

I’m proudly alt-right. Anything else is just caving to those that wish to remove you from the world. Close the borders, promote and encourage the ability of actual Americans (not the freeloaders arriving from whatever hole they came from).

[Anonymous 3]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I am not getting this from the left critics, but when I run into videos trying to explain what alt-right is, you seem to have vanguard individuals who say alt-right is about white identity, and that other races can’t hold western values and culture in any way. Is this correct?

I ran into this video where the speaker argues that other people of other racists can’t hold western values, and only whites can:

Name one that does. If they did hold western values, surely there’d be another nation just like America or what used to be England kicking around Africa, Arabia or Asia…. right? Surely they’d have just exactly the same growth, family values and charity that the west does, right?

Perhaps you believe in the Magic Dirt theory of immigration. “Well, once they get here and see how wonderful it is, they’ll change!” Just like a beaten spouse: you can change them but only because they love you and you love them. Turns out that the vast majority of immigrants that aren’t white just bring India, Pakistan, Mexico, Egypt, Israel, and El Salvador with them. Mix one part tribalism with one part freeloader and a half part of white genocide and you get the current situation.

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

Take a look at this alt-right site:

Scientists Discover Women Were Right All Along

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

BlacqueJacqueShellacque wrote:

Cultural diversity = white genocide.

I am white, but why should I care? Of what relevance is a the number of a certain race to me?

Anonymous wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I am not getting this from the left critics, but when I run into videos trying to explain what alt-right is, you seem to have vanguard individuals who say alt-right is about white identity, and that other races can’t hold western values and culture in any way. Is this correct?

I ran into this video where the speaker argues that other people of other racists can’t hold western values, and only whites can:

Name one that does. If they did hold western values, surely there’d be another nation just like America or what used to be England kicking around Africa, Arabia or Asia…. right? Surely they’d have just exactly the same growth, family values and charity that the west does, right?

Perhaps you believe in the Magic Dirt theory of immigration. “Well, once they get here and see how wonderful it is, they’ll change!” Just like a beaten spouse: you can change them but only because they love you and you love them. Turns out that the vast majority of immigrants that aren’t white just bring India, Pakistan, Mexico, Egypt, Israel, and El Salvador with them. Mix one part tribalism with one part freeloader and a half part of white genocide and you get the current situation.

The white nationalist holds that it isn’t possible for people of other races to hold Western European values. I consider this BS personally. I can name some examples:

D’Nish Desouza?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D%27Souza

He is Indian.

John Kapoor is another Indian immigrant to America:
http://www.forbes.com/profile/john-kapoor/

Kieu Hoang was born in Vietnam and came to America and became rich:
http://www.forbes.com/profile/kieu-hoang/

Isaac Larian was born in Iran:
http://www.forbes.com/profile/isaac-larian/

Thomas Sowell is an African-American who holds conservative values:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sowell

And here is an article on black immigrants who migrated to America and did better than native born blacks:

Black Immigrants in U.S. Earning 30% More than U.S. Born Blacks

You can find others here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/denizcam/2016/03/10/american-dreamers-45-foreign-born-billionaires-who-got-rich-in-the-u-s/#1a564ff83817

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Honorable_Juice_BoxParticipant 591]

Faust For Science wrote:

When it comes to bigotry, the “smelt it dealt it” rule applies. Those whom are making the major of accusations of bigotry towards others tend to be the worst bigots.

Bingo

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

The white nationalist holds that it isn’t possible for people of other races to hold Western European values. I consider this BS personally. I can name some examples:

Using generalizations does not mean that there are not exceptions. Deep down we know that not ALL women are like that, but the vast majority are. That does not however devalue AWALT arguments as the few exceptions do not cancel out the rest.

[Anonymous 24]

Ok, went and did some reading on this. I am not part of the “Alt-Right”…

I do however have some common ground in the fact that I am anti-feminist and freely express how I feel about Israel and Jewish influence in the U.S. But maybe the fact that my biggest hero’s are Jewish may disqualify me completely in some of the Alt Rights eyes. Finkelstein, Weiss, Shahak, Chomsky… The ones actually speaking out against bulls~~~…

This right here from Wikipedia points to another difference between a Libertarian and Alt-Right-

“Tucker, an anarcho-capitalist, has said the alt-right is opposed to libertarianism because it focuses on group identity and tribalism instead of individual liberty.”

To answer the topics question, no, I would say even White Pride is not racist in itself, only as much as it would be for any other race to have pride and to promote it. The question is, where does pride cross the line of racism? And who is doing the labeling of the Alt Right? If it is leftists labeling it then I am sure they would like to lump me in with them as well as all right wingers and cry RACISM! nonstop, as they have been know to do…

This is obviously a new term I am now reading about…
Will continue reading…

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

Alt right isnt inherently racist, but we are against free-loaders and weakness. BLM and 4th-wave feminism trumpet guilt and sympathy from white men because they dont have a leg to stand on concerning merit and personal responsibility.

Its always the racist that brings up the race card…because its the only card they’ve got. My white brethren get blamed for everything that women and blacks fail at

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

You have to define what is alt right first.

From what I see, there are people on the left that seems to be on the right to big government because big government is so extreme left. So these people opt out to another political spectrum.

And there is people on the right waking up to the fact that the cuckservative does not have their best interest at heart either. Hence they opt out to another political spectrum.

The mainstream don’t like bleeding followers and try to group them with some hate movement so they can paint them in a negative light.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I am not getting this from the left critics,

and see any attempt to put me in a box due to what genetics I have, to be oppressive, and against my own interests. I consider these racial nationalists also will go after men who are going MGTOW (not marrying) and trying to go their own way. They join with tradcons and tell them to “man up” for the sake of their race.

Maybe I am wrong. Please feel free to comment.

Alt-right is a psy-op to throw everyone who disagrees with feminist and leftist regressives. From Sargon of Akkad, Rubin Report, Breitbart, and down to the KKK. Do you see the inherent stupidity of that? That is what the alt-right label is. It is a label created by leftist to describe people who are not hillary/bernie/democrat drones to describe people who are not neo-cons and social conservatives drones.

You can laugh and dismiss the retarded label. I do. I am not alt-right. So when they eventually control demolition it with controlled opposition, you can continue along like usual. Only those who adopted the label will feel like s~~~.

t. -A lvl 9999 quads Meme Wizard

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Big Boss wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I am not getting this from the left critics,

and see any attempt to put me in a box due to what genetics I have, to be oppressive, and against my own interests. I consider these racial nationalists also will go after men who are going MGTOW (not marrying) and trying to go their own way. They join with tradcons and tell them to “man up” for the sake of their race.

Maybe I am wrong. Please feel free to comment.

Alt-right is a psy-op to throw everyone who disagrees with feminist and leftist regressives. From Sargon of Akkad, Rubin Report, Breitbart, and down to the KKK. Do you see the inherent stupidity of that? That is what the alt-right label is. It is a label created by leftist to describe people who are not hillary/bernie/democrat drones to describe people who are not neo-cons and social conservatives drones.

You can laugh and dismiss the retarded label. I do. I am not alt-right. So when they eventually control demolition it with controlled opposition, you can continue along like usual. Only those who adopted the label will feel like s~~~.

t. -A lvl 9999 quads Meme Wizard

My take is to not confuse random noise with some giant conspiracy. The internet tends to get a bunch of people with like minds to come together and form a sub-culture behind it. This isn’t directed by anyone, but just happens when humans gather. What you get, from the likes of Anonymous, to Gamergate, to MGTOW, to other things, is what looks like something that is coordinated and with leaders, and so on, but there isn’t such things.

I am of the belief that conspiracy theories are a form of system manipulation used to distract people, and often discredit those who don’t go mainstream, so that no one pays attention to them. If you buy into those, you will end up being shut out of discourse and be seen nuts.

As for what “alt-right” is, it apparently the name has origins with those who aligned with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

My take on it, is that it is where paleoconservatives ended up after the neo-conservatives came in, and there was a push by the conservative side to go pro-globalization.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Bob ProxyParticipant 13]

When it comes to voting and politics you can’t just take what one group says about the others as gospel. This will lead to pointless bias and even more pointless arguments with members of your chosen group and members outside it.

If you are looking for what to vote for you should figure out what you want and what you don’t want, and find the group that most closely agrees with that. It doesn’t matter what you believe or on what side of the aisle you are on there is a group for it.

All sides will have groups that they don’t want associated with them, but if you have a problem with these people you shouldn’t let it affect what you want or believe. Remember part of being MGTOW is going your own way and that may mean standing for what you want regardless of what others who share those views think.

Pity is the most destructive emotion because it leads to guilt. Guilt is the second. Love is the thrid because it will make you destroy yourself. Hate is fourth because love leads to hate.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

My take is to not confuse random noise with some giant conspiracy. The internet tends to get a bunch of people with like minds to come together and form a sub-culture behind it. This isn’t directed by anyone, but just happens when humans gather. What you get, from the likes of Anonymous, to Gamergate, to MGTOW, to other things, is what looks like something that is coordinated and with leaders, and so on, but there isn’t such things.

I am of the belief that conspiracy theories are a form of system manipulation used to distract people, and often discredit those who don’t go mainstream, so that no one pays attention to them. If you buy into those, you will end up being shut out of discourse and be seen nuts.

As for what “alt-right” is, it apparently the name has origins with those who aligned with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

My take on it, is that it is where paleoconservatives ended up after the neo-conservatives came in, and there was a push by the conservative side to go pro-globalization.

And what happened with gamergate? What happened with the tea-party? What happened to Operation Wall Street? What happened to Anonymous?

All which had an initially great concept got hit hard with controlled demolition through subversion and co-opt. Start paying attention to trends. If you keep playing the same game they keep beating you with the same tactics.

Why is MGTOW different and has yet to be subverted as of yet? And believe me they are trying with Tuna and media trying to get us to “tone it down”.

And for groups that aren’t as individually focused and amorphous it has come to pass that an ideology based on extremism are the only one more hardened against being busted up by shills and sjw’s. The alt-right is the PERFECT corral to demolish a bunch of people of various ideologies that they have been grouping together.

When it happens the only one’s who are going to tug along like nothing happened are the extreme cultures that have been pro-active as hell weeding out subversive elements no different than the way we kick out tuna.

[narwhalParticipant]

I don’t really care what the alt-right is or isn’t, but it’s ridiculous (and very common) to right off the merits of an opinion or argument by calling it racist. I see it as a growing tactic by the left as a way to end any constructive disagreement. These days, if you talk with your average liberal, their goal is to see if they can twist anything you say to be racist or bigoted, call you such, then shut it down.

Racism is the first reason people assume is the cause for someone’s actions and opinions, when it should be the last.

The acquisition of racism causes hatred and prevents any viable solution to a problem from being implemented. Is it a coincidence that tension and violence between police and black folks has increased since BLM came around?

As for the preservation of western culture…no I don’t think it’s a white thing only. I see culture as the ways things are done for yourself and those around you. People don’t want someone else coming in and changing their culture. In a way, it’s an invasion of their freedom.

At the same time though, freedom allows someone the right to change culture. Freedom and culture seem to be both allies and enemies, depending on your point of view and the situation.

Personally, I want the freedom to live in my nice quite suburban neighborhood. I don’t care about the race of the people living in my neighborhood as long as they also want a nice quire suburban neighborhood. If people want to come in and throw house parties every week, then no, I don’t want them there. And that’s a pretty reasonable request in wanting to maintain culture. Is it reasonable to want the people in your neighborhood to speak like you do, to listen to the same music and similar interests? How much change is an exception is ok and how much means I no longer live it a nice quite neighborhood?

Ok. Then do it.

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