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This seemed like the “nerd section” of the MGTOW site, so I’m going to post this here. For those of you who don’t know, Doctor Strange is a Marvel Comics character who has a movie coming up here pretty soon in 2016. In short, his story is about an arrogant, womanizing, gifted surgeon who breaks his hands in an accident and loses his wealth trying to fix them. In a last-ditch attempt to be healed, he travels to the Orient and finds a monastery where he learns magic and becomes a defender against supernatural threats.
Now, here’s my beef: For the role of the Ancient One, Strange’s virtually immortal teacher and the Sorcerer Supreme on Earth (top wizard, basically), Marvel is considering…Tilda Swinton. The hypocrisy here is that when Fox cast Michael B. Jordan as the Human Torch, a white character, SJWs were crawling over each other to be the first to say how not racist they were and how great a casting decision they thought it was because, you know, f~~~ the white men who made characters who looked like them. They complained that black actors do not get enough opportunity and representation in films for anything other than thugs and so it’s only fair that some of the white heroes be made black or other races.
The mental gymnastics, though, astound me as they try to defend Tilda Swinton, a white, English woman, for the role of the Ancient One, an elderly Tibetan man. The biggest argument here seems to be, “Well, Tilda is soooo talented.” So what? Instead of giving the role to a gifted Asian actor, one who could get their foot in the doorway in terms of introducing them to the American audience, we get Tilda Swinton who has an Oscar and is not begging for roles at all. Anything to protect the precious womynz, amirite?
It fits the freakish SJW 4-tier heirarchy:
Sexual Deviancy > Bitchdom > Favored Races > White Men.
Mind you, tier 4 are the lowest of the low to the closed minded SJW c~~~s. Tilda is tier 2, so she is held in higher regard than tier 3 Jordan. A f~~~ing freak who wants his nuts cut off to surgically become a bitch would be tier 1, and thus take precedence over Tilda, but both tiers are held as sacred to the SJWs.SJWs are the dumbest f~~~ing creatures nature ever devolved from slime.
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If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.marvel is one of the most left wing companies out there so that doesn’t surprise me
Eventually women will get bored of comic books/films and Marvel will find its core readership have long since left. Maybe then when the following trend women disappear they might cater to actual fans of comic books
I tried to like the Dr Strange series during my comic book days. It never really caught on with me. Recasting an Oriental male character as a Scottish woman? That extinguished any flicker of interest I had left. If it gets rave reviews, maybe I’ll rent the DVD some day. Maybe.
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Never was a big fan of Doctor Strange but making the ancient one a Scottish woman is just retarded.
As far as black super heroes are concerned, I’d rather see a Black Panther, Luke Cage or another Blade film.
But Marvel and the coat f~~~ers in Hollywood would rather race swipe or gender swipe the Super heroes than keep everything familiar.
Never was a big fan of Doctor Strange but making the ancient one a Scottish woman is just retarded. As far as black super heroes are concerned, I’d rather see a Black Panther, Luke Cage or another Blade film. But Marvel and the coat f~~~ers in Hollywood would rather race swipe or gender swipe the Super heroes than keep everything familiar.
Well, Luke’s getting a Netflix series in 2017 and Black Panther’s movie is there too, but unless there’s a legitimate reason for changing a character, which there rarely is, diverting characters from source material is nonsense. The sad part is that the core membership that Jim mentioned is me…and I’m really considering dropping the big 2 because of their s~~~ to try to attract new readers at the expense of the older fans.
Remember guys DC isn’t guilt with the exception of the current run on Batgirl lol. I had no problem with Jordan being cast of the Human Torch simply because I feel like he fits the role of Johnny Storm and I can deal with the fact that him and Sue or step siblings or each just came out a different race lol. I myself am not too familiar with Dr Strange and never read any of his solo comics. I only know him through his time on the New Avengers post Civil War. For anyone interested though there was a Dr. Strange animated movie that came out in 2007, before Marvel started to appeal to feminists, and it is pretty good. If you don’t want to buy it it is currently on Netflix.
As we all know these people don’t use logic and will find anything to complain about like with Age of Ultron. Since Scarlet Johanson was pregnant it made the most sense to have Ultron kidnap Black Widow so she had less screen time. Also she did most the work to be saved. All Hulk did was open a door, she used her knowledge of morse code and radio skills to let the Avengers know where she was. Marvel’s leftist and feminist switch has gotten me to buy hardly any of their books these days. In the female Thor book one page made a reference to people who support gamergate being the bad guys and in another post Thornia hit a bad guy and said “that’s for using feminist like it’s a 4 letter word”. Marvel seems to also get the free pass feminists get because they never get called on anything in their movies while DC gets s~~~ for no reason. Take Batman and Spider-Man for example. When it was announced the sequel to Man of Steel would have Batman in it people complained about Batman not getting a solo film first and we needed one even though Batman has had 7 live action movies, not counting the Adam West movie. Now take the fact Spider-Man is being added to Civil War and no one is complaining about that. In fact Batman v Superman is getting tons of s~~~ from Marvel fan boys because having Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman all in one movie is too much, not counting Aquaman or Cyborg since Aquaman will probably only show up at the end and Cyborg will just be Victor Stone. Now look at Civil War which will have Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Falcon, Ant Man, Hawkeye, Spider-Man, Winter Solider, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, and Black Panther. Civil War isn’t getting crap from anyone. I have no problem with Marvel putting so many characters in Civil War and think it is cool, I find the solo superhero movie to be an outdated concept expect for an origin tale. However people need to realize if DC wants 3 heroes in a movie that is totally ok too.
I don’t really care for DC after the New 52 rolled around. I was one of the fans really on-board and excited about it and it kind of seemed like a fumbled attempt. Some of the stories have been good, but I felt like a lot of the heart and defining traits for most the characters got wiped away for something of a “sanitized” version, which came off bland to be. Just my two cents. As for the films, I give neither side a “free pass”. I myself do not look forward to DC’s films because it seems they’ve adopted the MoS model and I didn’t care for the film. Again, these are all personal opinions.
The bottom line to me is that both sides are committing the same crime: abandoning the old readership that has been supporting them for decades for the sake of being trendy (and yes, I will definitely concede that Marvel is more guilty of pandering to the SJW/feminist crowd) and then being s~~~ out of luck when the flaky new readers they just brought aboard leave at the first little thing that offends them. The thing that grinds my gears is that it’s clearly NOT about representation: Both Sif and Valkyrie got their own series recently and neither of them sold enough to last more than 12 issues. The fact is that women WANT male heroes changed to females because, let’s fact it, they’re bitches that can’t stand the fact that the most famous and powerful heroes are men.
I think both decisions were f~~~ing stupid. The new fantastic four trailer looks awful, and this is the first i’ve heard of it but casting a woman just because you have some sort of moronic bechdel test quota to meet… Whoever did that deserves to be shot in the gut. That and whoever filled the Peggy Carter series with all that feminist propaganda. These are the weak spots in the MCU. You want a black protagonist? The Luke Cage series looks like its going to be awesome. You want a kickass female character? We already got Skye, Melinda May, Mockingbird, and Aka Jessica Jones and Captian Marvel on the way. You don’t need to hijack the male characters. Especially the old male characters. Thats like, the one super underrepresented demographic. Try to apply the bechdel test to old men, to anything but the west wing. You lose that battle, my friend.
SOMETIMES, just sometimes, these casting choices work out. The black nick fury nailed it so well that they made a character after him in the comics, Nick Fury jr. Which still fits chronologically. But its like Robert Deniro said in this speech for all the tisch graduates, sometimes you just don’t get the part because you’re not the right fit, he auditioned for martin luther king and he could have acted the f~~~ out of that part, but despite being qualified as an actor he’s just not bald or black enough for it. Its hilarious but true. Any good director knows it too. Which is why the Dr. Strange movie is poised to be such a fantastic failure. You have an old monk in a temple, you want to see the history of his character on the lines of his face. Not some posh victorian downton abbey looking motherf~~~er with an air of bitchy aristocracy. Benedict cumberbatch could play the f~~~ out of Dr. Strange, but not dragging the rest of the BBC on his coattails. This is bulls~~~.
Right, but Marvel’s female editors and mangina writers have been learning if they hijack male characters and make them female, they get more sales. Note the Thor debacle right now: Before making Thora the Exploiter, Marvel tried giving Valkyrie AND Lady Sif series to head in (Valkyrie as a team leader and Sif as the main character) and both flopped. Because as much as feminist “fans” try to say they just want representation, it really comes down to systematically tearing the b~~~~ of men and humiliating them. So, they make the real Thor “unworthy” and make a new one and she gets sales because a lot of the Thor die-hards want the complete collection and to stay in the loop while getting a minor feminist boost. The girls will leave and the offended fans won’t come back, leading to what we’re seeing now which is the fastest-dropping sales title in Thor’s history.
As for the casting, I have no plans to watch FF. There are too many rights that should go back to Marvel tied into it and Trank sounds like a f~~~ing SJW every time he tries defending it. We just want something true the the source material. If it fails and Marvel can either buy the rights back or broker a deal with Fox a la Sony and Spider-Man, we now have access to the rights of all the FF, Doom, Galactus, the Silver Surfer, Kang the Conqueror, and more. Strange, I’m still torn on as they haven’t cast Swinton definitively yet, but they HAVE said that they plan on casting a female for the role. They might change their mind, but we’ll see. Also, flightspace, I hate to be “that guy”, but they had a black Nick Fury actually based visually on Samuel L. Jackson long before his appearance in Iron Man within the Ultimate comics imprint. They just made Nick Fury Jr. because they hadn’t yet devised a way to switch Ultimate Nick Fury over to the mainstream (616) continuity and they wanted to be more in-line with the films.
I think it is only natural that comics like many other things change over time because of new fans. Funny enough we have little proof a movie affects a book. The best example is that Guardians of the Galaxy has been high on the charts since the movie came out and both Star Lord and Rocket Raccoon got solo series that were high on the chart too. Sure some people may be introduced to a book through a movie, but Marvel seems to think after each movie tons of people will be rushing to a comic book shop. Ironically enough when I got into Marvel and DC I loved how when I opened the books it was nothing like the movie as that showed depth to me. I knew what I saw in the movies was material based on old stories and the stuff in the books was material that took decades to get to and any movie series that tried that would have to make multiple movies and could only still tell a fraction of what the book told. I feel like DC knows to treat their comic fans better then Marvel does. I mean say what you want about the new 52 but you don’t see DC making retcons to sync books up with movies and tv shows lol. A part of me feels like though Marvel just can’t wait for Evan’s, Downey, and Hemsworth’s contracts to expire so they can bring in the Falcon Cap, Female Thor, and possibly a female or non white Iron Man to be the MCU Superior Iron Man. In theory I am not against that idea. It would be really cool to see the legacy of certain heroes passed down like it has been in the comics, but knowing Marvel they are going to make a bigger deal out of like they always do when a non white male hero is introduced lol. Although we have never seen anything like this with both Marvel and DC films. Before the MCU a superhero would get a trilogy in its own little world and then go away. Now while no hero has yet to have a 4th film there are team up films that have all of these characters in them so they can still appear after their trilogy is over. Plus with some characters appearing in other movies we really have no idea how long or far things will go lol.
The thing that grinds my gears is that it’s clearly NOT about representation: Both Sif and Valkyrie got their own series recently and neither of them sold enough to last more than 12 issues. The fact is that women WANT male heroes changed to females because, let’s fact it, they’re bitches that can’t stand the fact that the most famous and powerful heroes are men.
That is partly true. From what I have seen women don’t like heroes in the same way men do. Batgirl and Ms. Marvel seem to be the 2 most popular superhero books that women enjoy reading and sites and shops say “are perfect for girls”. Now what is Ms. Marvel and the current run on Batgirl like? Women’s issues. The poor me setting with young women and their troubles of being a woman. You have Ms. Marvel struggling with being a young American Muslim girl and trying to deal with her traditional parents while the current Batgirl run has in living with room mates, having guy issues, school problems, and villains that like to put naked pics of women online without their permission. Now there is nothing wrong with writing those types of stories or even liking them, but people need to admit that those are the type of superhero comics women like. DC seems to realize this by making the upcoming Starfire comic have a more girly look to it. Think about it though, if I’m right more women read Batgirl and Ms. Marvel then Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel which are written like male heroes, that says something. You know why the books for Sif and Valkyrie failed? Probably because it wasn’t what women wanted to read lol. Another reason could be because people didn’t want to spend money on 3 Asgardian books so they just stuck with Thor lol. When Carol first became Captain Marvel her book was written by Kelly Sue DeConnick and only lasted 17 issues. Then it was relaunched with a new number 1 also still written by Kelly Sue DeConnick. So basically not even a woman writing a woman superhero could get women to read Captain Marvel so easily lol.
Oh well thats cool. Yeah i didn’t know there was something in the works. Do you know which marvel universe had the Black nick fury first? i know it was at least in the 199999 universe before the 616, i didn’t know there was a version before that.
Traditionally in the comics Thor is one of those blue beetle / shazam-esque characters who changes based on whoever happens to pick up the hammer and its based on a legend which in fact had some genderbending of its own. But to do so in rejection of the masculine aspects of what makes thor thor, i mean, even if you’re gonna do a female thor, she’s still going to be beating the s~~~ out of people with a giant hammer. She’s still got to represent thor in spirit, and just inserting a woman in there willy nilly isn’t the way to do it. I don’t have a problem with this as long as the motivation is good writing, not some PC demographic quota. And especially to do so right when the current MCU thor is at his peak of public interest… Not a wise choice.
I also hope fantastic four flops miserably because i am SO sick of the way other studios spam their way onto what really should be Marvels turf. i mean seriously, if you’re going to hold onto the copyrights to someone elses creation because you feel you have a great story or you want to create a specific vision, thats one thing, but to intentionally pump out crap movies and reboots and reboots of sequels of reboots, just because its a profitable copyright and you want to cling to it and not ever really do anything with it… Well it p~~~es on the worth of the franchise. Especially when someone else can do it better. I mean look what fox did with daredevil. F~~~ing marvel released a series that was 10x better as just a minor side project on netflix. For i’m pretty sure, less than the budget of the entire movie they did for fox. And critics are calling it the future of television.
I feel like DC knows to treat their comic fans better then Marvel does. I mean say what you want about the new 52 but you don’t see DC making retcons to sync books up with movies and tv shows lol.
They made Green Arrow more like the Arrow TV series, but I agree that overall, they tend to do their own thing. Still dislike the New 52, though.
Batgirl and Ms. Marvel seem to be the 2 most popular superhero books that women enjoy reading and sites and shops say “are perfect for girls”. Now what is Ms. Marvel and the current run on Batgirl like? Women’s issues. The poor me setting with young women and their troubles of being a woman. You have Ms. Marvel struggling with being a young American Muslim girl and trying to deal with her traditional parents while the current Batgirl run has in living with room mates, having guy issues, school problems, and villains that like to put naked pics of women online without their permission. Now there is nothing wrong with writing those types of stories or even liking them, but people need to admit that those are the type of superhero comics women like. DC seems to realize this by making the upcoming Starfire comic have a more girly look to it. Think about it though, if I’m right more women read Batgirl and Ms. Marvel then Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel which are written like male heroes, that says something. You know why the books for Sif and Valkyrie failed? Probably because it wasn’t what women wanted to read lol. Another reason could be because people didn’t want to spend money on 3 Asgardian books so they just stuck with Thor lol. When Carol first became Captain Marvel her book was written by Kelly Sue DeConnick and only lasted 17 issues. Then it was relaunched with a new number 1 also still written by Kelly Sue DeConnick. So basically not even a woman writing a woman superhero could get women to read Captain Marvel so easily lol.
The Ms. Marvel thing kind of annoys me. I enjoyed the first few issues, but they keep calling her the “new Peter Parker”…yet it took Peter over 40 years to get into the Avengers. Kamala gets in after, what, 2 years? They just keep handing the female characters everything, which is what my problem with Marvel’s current “PC” lineup after Secret Wars is: If you want to have characters put in hard work, get rewarded, and move up the ladder, fine. DC did that with Dick and Wally and a lot of other characters; it’s actually one of the things they’re best at. Instead they disgrace the original holder of the mantle (Thor, Cap) so they can make the politically correct choice.
Additionally, I’d argue your assessment as to why Sif and Valkyrie failed is incorrect as they ran at different time intervals: Sif was first (taking over the Journey into Mystery title after Kid Loki), then Valkyrie in Fearless Defenders, and finally Thora. I think you’re right, though, that women like the “woe is me!” gendered comics, while the ones where they’re actually empowered and doing things themselves don’t gel with them.
Oh well thats cool. Yeah i didn’t know there was something in the works. Do you know which marvel universe had the Black nick fury first? i know it was at least in the 199999 universe before the 616, i didn’t know there was a version before that.
The Ultimate Universe was the first universe to have a black Nick Fury. However in Ultimate Marvel team up and the second arc of Ultimate X-Men he had his original look and then in the Ultimates he got his current look that is similar to Samual L Jackson. Then in 2012 in the 616 Marvel created Nick Fury Jr as Fury’s half black son so that way there could be a Black Nick Fury in the 616 that also looked like Samual L Jackson lol.
Traditionally in the comics Thor is one of those blue beetle / shazam-esque characters who changes based on whoever happens to pick up the hammer and its based on a legend which in fact had some genderbending of its own. But to do so in rejection of the masculine aspects of what makes thor thor, i mean, even if you’re gonna do a female thor, she’s still going to be beating the s~~~ out of people with a giant hammer. She’s still got to represent thor in spirit, and just inserting a woman in there willy nilly isn’t the way to do it. I don’t have a problem with this as long as the motivation is good writing, not some PC demographic quota. And especially to do so right when the current MCU thor is at his peak of public interest… Not a wise choice.
I don’t know if you know but female Thor is actually Jane Foster. To me it would have been a lot better if in issue 1 of Thor we knew it was Jane picking up the Hammar because considering Jane is an established Thor character it would have been no different then when Bucky was Captain America.
I also hope fantastic four flops miserably because i am SO sick of the way other studios spam their way onto what really should be Marvels turf. i mean seriously, if you’re going to hold onto the copyrights to someone elses creation because you feel you have a great story or you want to create a specific vision, thats one thing, but to intentionally pump out crap movies and reboots and reboots of sequels of reboots, just because its a profitable copyright and you want to cling to it and not ever really do anything with it… Well it p~~~es on the worth of the franchise. Especially when someone else can do it better. I mean look what fox did with daredevil. F~~~ing marvel released a series that was 10x better as just a minor side project on netflix. For i’m pretty sure, less than the budget of the entire movie they did for fox. And critics are calling it the future of television.
I am actually looking forward to the new Fantastic 4 movie since I love the FF, or at least used to before their comic became s~~~ lol, and I love the dark and gritty superhero stuff. However I do agree Fox needs to do what Sony did with Spider-Man and give Marvel the rights to make the movies. With the MCU being such ad money maker and the DCCU going in full swing next year with the rights to all of its characters it is going to be very hard for superhero movies in their own universe to compete. Sure Fox has X-Men and FF, but can they really use only those 2 franchises to compete with Marvel doing the Infinity Gauntlet or DC doing Crisis or the Crime Syndicate?
I feel like DC knows to treat their comic fans better then Marvel does. I mean say what you want about the new 52 but you don’t see DC making retcons to sync books up with movies and tv shows lol.
They made Green Arrow more like the Arrow TV series, but I agree that overall, they tend to do their own thing. Still dislike the New 52, though.
Are you referring to issues 35-40? If so the reason why those issues looked and felt like Arrow so much is because they were written by Andrew Kreisberg and Ben Sokolowski. DC needed a placement team for 6 months until Convergence since the previous team went to go work at Marvel. Starting with issue 41 it feel more like the comic book Green Arrow again. While those issues weren’t bad and I took it as that is what the writers of Arrow would do if they could use any characters they wanted, it is good to have the Green Arrow comic feel like Green Arrow again and not Arrow lol. If you are referring to just his suit I can deal with that. His suit may look a little more like it does on Arrow, but at least in the comics his sister is still a half Japanese girl named Emiko whose mother is Shado instead of his sister being Thea and Shado being his lover while on the island lol.
Batgirl and Ms. Marvel seem to be the 2 most popular superhero books that women enjoy reading and sites and shops say “are perfect for girls”. Now what is Ms. Marvel and the current run on Batgirl like? Women’s issues. The poor me setting with young women and their troubles of being a woman. You have Ms. Marvel struggling with being a young American Muslim girl and trying to deal with her traditional parents while the current Batgirl run has in living with room mates, having guy issues, school problems, and villains that like to put naked pics of women online without their permission. Now there is nothing wrong with writing those types of stories or even liking them, but people need to admit that those are the type of superhero comics women like. DC seems to realize this by making the upcoming Starfire comic have a more girly look to it. Think about it though, if I’m right more women read Batgirl and Ms. Marvel then Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel which are written like male heroes, that says something. You know why the books for Sif and Valkyrie failed? Probably because it wasn’t what women wanted to read lol. Another reason could be because people didn’t want to spend money on 3 Asgardian books so they just stuck with Thor lol. When Carol first became Captain Marvel her book was written by Kelly Sue DeConnick and only lasted 17 issues. Then it was relaunched with a new number 1 also still written by Kelly Sue DeConnick. So basically not even a woman writing a woman superhero could get women to read Captain Marvel so easily lol.
The Ms. Marvel thing kind of annoys me. I enjoyed the first few issues, but they keep calling her the “new Peter Parker”…yet it took Peter over 40 years to get into the Avengers. Kamala gets in after, what, 2 years? They just keep handing the female characters everything, which is what my problem with Marvel’s current “PC” lineup after Secret Wars is: If you want to have characters put in hard work, get rewarded, and move up the ladder, fine. DC did that with Dick and Wally and a lot of other characters; it’s actually one of the things they’re best at. Instead they disgrace the original holder of the mantle (Thor, Cap) so they can make the politically correct choice.
Additionally, I’d argue your assessment as to why Sif and Valkyrie failed is incorrect as they ran at different time intervals: Sif was first (taking over the Journey into Mystery title after Kid Loki), then Valkyrie in Fearless Defenders, and finally Thora. I think you’re right, though, that women like the “woe is me!” gendered comics, while the ones where they’re actually empowered and doing things themselves don’t gel with them.
I read the first issue of Ms. Marvel and it wasn’t bad but I didn’t want to spend $2.99 for more issues lol. By todays standards I think waiting 40 years is too much for getting into the Avengers and 2 years works if the character has earned it but I am guessing Ms. Marvel being a Muslim woman is her main qualifier. I do like some of the characters in the upcoming all new avengers roster: Spider-Gwen, Miles, female Thor, but I feel like Marvel is throwing away so many of their classic characters for diversity sake. This all feels like a double edged sword too in a way. On one side it is cool the Avengers team is updating and legacy characters are taking over as the story moves on while on the other side a lot of it feels like an easy way to pander by Marvel saying “LOOK WE HAVE LESS WHITE GUYS ON OUR TEAM NOW”
On Wednesday the Wonder Woman annual came out that finishes the first arc by Meredith and David Finch. It is good and in it Wonder Woman is accepting responsibility that the way she dealt with the first born caused thousands of innocents to die and she is owning up to that being her fault. It is good writing but while reading I started to laugh because most women aren’t going to want to read about a woman being responsible for her own actions. Now make her blame Superman and Batman for all those innocent deaths and I’m sure tons of women would be reading it lol.
Are you referring to issues 35-40? If so the reason why those issues looked and felt like Arrow so much is because they were written by Andrew Kreisberg and Ben Sokolowski.
No, I’m referring to what he was like before the New 52, when he was the bearded leftist from the 70’s always trying to fight “the Man” and hit on girls way younger than him while still being married to Black Canary.
By todays standards I think waiting 40 years is too much for getting into the Avengers and 2 years works if the character has earned it but I am guessing Ms. Marvel being a Muslim woman is her main qualifier.
Right. I’m not saying she should have to wait 40 years to be an Avenger, but 2 seems short, especially since the majority of her comics seem to be about her social life rather than her costumed adventures. My big question is more, “What has Thora, Kamala, and even Miles to a lesser extent, done that makes them worthy of being Avengers?” Nova Sam has saved/helped save the entire universe a couple times already, Tony and Vision are long-time members (s~~~, Tony was a founding member and funded the team most times), and Captain/Falcon Sam has been a long time member as well, though I wish he had more of a spotlight based on his own merit and less on the fact that he wears Cap’s costume and holds his shield now. I’m all for moving up characters and advancing characterization. I’m even like the idea of a little diversification to the Marvel line-up but this all feels so forced. Especially Thora.it feels like an easy way to pander by Marvel saying “LOOK WE HAVE LESS WHITE GUYS ON OUR TEAM NOW”
That’s ALL it feels like to me.I would have been really excited to see the movie had it not been for their poisoning of the story, characters, etc.
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@himeo: Excellent catch. I love what Bill Burr said; I think he’s absolutely right. It has nothing to do with women feeling included and everything to do with them feeling dominate around men, hence why the WNBA has no real following among women even among women who claim to like basketball/sports.
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