silent treatment

[Muricanguy0Participant 9]

Greetings.

While I am an active viewer of this website, and am highly skeptical of marriage (I have a nine year old son who keeps me busy and therefore prevents me from doing dumb things with women), I still like to date women, but with my eyes open. I consider myself a reasonably attractive person, both look wise, financially wise, and personality wise.

I had a pretty good first date with someone. She seemed to really be into me. After the date, we texted and chatted a bit the next morning…but then in the PM, crickets. I am not a chaser or play games, so I am not the kind of person to beg for a reply. Of course, there could be an emergency on her end, but often, dates go well, we set up a second date, and then they get flaky, disinterested, or seem to change. A few times a woman told me afterwards “I thought you were too good for me and you wouldn’t be interested in me, so I didn’t respond.”

I truly do believe that women generally do not have logical reasoning, but I was curious if you had this experience, or any other comments about it. Before MGTOW, I would have been upset with myself or second guessing me…I am not doing that at all, but I still don’t understand this phenomenon. Is it some game where they want to be chased? I am not a chaser.

[SMADParticipant 651]

Muricanguy0 wrote:

A few times a woman told me afterwards “I thought you were too good for me and you wouldn’t be interested in me, so I didn’t respond.”

I have had this quite a lot and, quite frankly, my self confessed arrogance agrees that I probably am. To me personally, a comment / response saying this tells me they might have low self esteem and therefore not someone I would want to date anyway. Think of all the emotional crap and “reassurance” you would have to constantly give to someone like this? I am feeling emotionally drained just THINKING about it.

At the end of the day, if you are a successful / educated man and doing OK looks / health wise then yes, you are going to be superior in comparison to many guys, especially beta white knights. I would also be tempted to see such a comment as a way of them saying “s~~~, you aren’t easily controlled /manipulated by women and therefore could see through my bull s~~~ – I concede sooner rather than later.”

Whatever way I have described above – I personally see it as so and have it as my belief system. I value myself and my MGTOW mindset (of many years) reinforces the fact that I should maintain MY standards and not accept second rate behaviour, women or even people in my life. Once you get it in your mindset that YOU are the prize and not the woman, things will change dramatically. As I said at the start. Arrogant mindset? Most likely.

What can a woman offer you?
Sex? Well, you only have sex like, 1 or 2 % of the time, the rest is every day stuff. That and sex really isn’t hard to get, even if you pay for it, or whatever.

Companionship? The best companions you can have are long term MALE friendships. Decent male friends are worth their weight in gold as they will keep you grounded and point out things you might be “love blind” to. A woman will often try to keep you away form your friends because they KNOW this.

Financial help? If you are a successful guy, or even just content doing something lower end, but can afford to pay your bills and live, then taking on a woman will unbalance that and your cost of living will most likely sky rocket. Women are like a business investment – what will you gain from this venture?

Children? If you are THAT bothered, there is always adoption or, as science and technology continues, I imagine sperm and even ovum donors will become more and more commonplace and you could “buy” your own child, free from some nagging harridan of a mother.

So basically, if a woman says you are too good for her, take that as a compliment and carry on. Take it as a sign that you are separating from the average male population and climbing the mountain and getting a taste of the rarefied atmosphere – the air is very crisp and clean in the MGTOW-Sphere.

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Muricanguy0 wrote:

A few times a woman told me afterwards “I thought you were too good for me and you wouldn’t be interested in me, so I didn’t respond……….. is it some game where they want to be chased?

VERY common bulls~~~.

This means one of three things:
• It’s either a bulls~~~ line (or a lie)
• She actually has a low opinion of herself and has just revealed it.
• Both.

If this were in person, I would call her out: “Don’t ever let anyone hear you say that again. That’s like I telling someone you have a very low opinion of yourself. But I thank you for saving me the time to even bother with you..” (and say it with a smile)

But in a text message, I would just send:: “that’s adorable”……… or just “cute” ( to indicate I know what she’s up to )

I believe women suffer from a type of reverse grandiosity.

On the surface, she has a low opinion of herself – and just said so. But under the surface, her ego could be enormous. Using my example response, you can find out which. If she responds with outrage (or anger), it means she fed you a bulls~~~ line — MASKED as extreme insecurity — and you know she is lying to get you to pursue her. She wants to say something pathetic to get you try and hieghten her value. “Oh I think you’re wonderful” or some such bulls~~~. Don’t do it.

If she really believes it, then she could still be f~~~able, but now you’re dealing with the type who starts crying when she gets naked, is no fun to be around, and is constantly putting herself down to get you to lift her up. Exhausting.

She’s bad news either way. I have known TOO MANY women who put themselves down like that, with comments like “I feel fat today” and I will play with them by saying “Well, I wasn’t going to say anything…….” because I can play the game too. She was digging for a compliment and didn’t get one. The reactions range anywhere from a giggle to outright hostility.

Women like to put on a “low self esteem” exterior, but watch out. It’s a s~~~ test and you could uncover a beast.

Treat it like a game and you’ll do fine.

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You’re absolute right not to respond or pursue further at this time. The big take-away here is, she’s NOT FUN. That kind of comment “I didn’t think you would be interested in me” is NO FUN. You could even respond that way “you’re no fun”. No fun is the deal breaker. If she chooses pathetic over playful, then don’t bother.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[EntropyParticipant 902]

Textbook Projection. Sorry man but she means the exact opposite.

The good news is they have NO idea what real “value” is, so don’t think it has anything to do with you or reality or logic.

For f~~~s sake, the truth is- you probably didn’t treat her s~~~ty enough.

"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR

[felixParticipant 406]

My suggestion for responding to the ‘silent treatment’ is to appreciate the peace and quiet… I won’t last long!

more throttle ..... less brakes.....

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I don’t think this qualifies as “the silent treatment”. Women use “the silent treatment:” as an intended form of punishment. But the silent treatment is the WORST way to tell a man you’re mad it him. It’s like heaven to a man.

She just made up his mind for him. “I don’t think you would be interested in me”.

“If you say so , sweetie”.

It’s not even about whether or not HE is interested. She is just not interest-ING.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Muricanguy0Participant 9]

Well, even if she used the reverse projection thing since she thought I wasnt good enough, it doesnt really matter..

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Muricanguy0 wrote:

since she thought I wasnt good enough, it doesnt really matter..

She didn’t say you weren’t good enough. She said SHE wasn’t good enough.

Take her word for it.

“You’re too good for her” means she likes to be treated like crap.
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Entropy wrote:

For f~~~s sake, the truth is- you probably didn’t treat her s~~~ty enough.

Roger that.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Right on the mark KM! No fun, time to run!
We’re MGTOW, but in many instances we’re MRTGA (Men Running To Get Away!). I have ZERO tolerance for the childish games these psychos endlessly play, they want to play slit wrists, while I want to play be wise and make a plan.
Modern women are a playground for the masochistic insane! If they only knew just how repulsive they really are…

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Anonymous wrote:

Modern women are a playground for the masochistic insane! If they only knew just how repulsive they really are…

Well Tower, they might still find out eventually en masse. I know that’s the same day dream as about the NAWALT one but hey, even if they won’t find out we are here to help them to, aren’t we gents..?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[EntropyParticipant 902]

Keymaster wrote:

She didn’t say you weren’t good enough. She said SHE wasn’t good enough.

999 out of 1000 times I agree with you, but believing what she SAYS implies:

1. She knows what she wants.
2. Is capable of telling the actual truth.
3. Is not trying to take advantage of a man.

… it’s projection.

I was not much for proofs in algebra… but i stole the answer key in this case.

"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Entropy wrote:

I agree with you, but believing what she SAYS implies:

Oh I’m not saying “believe it”. (you know me better than that). I’m saying take her word at face value.
Take a woman’s word at face value and reflect it back to her. She will not like it.

Example:

Weeks ago, a female from Poland wrote to us and said: “Looks like I am one of the women who really are independent……” followed by a bunch of s~~~.

A couple of days ago, she wrote again. …. and again…. and AGAIN……

We wrote back to say “You’re not indepenent. We can’t even get RID of you. What would it take to get rid of you. A compliment????”

She wrote back AGAIN to say : ” it looks like you have learned alot from us women”. (Intended as a jab).

…. to which I replied…..

“Yes. And the number one lesson is to NEVER take her word at face value. Words like: “I am one of the women who really are independent.” And the reason men shouldn’t believe you, is because it’s ALWAYS bulls~~~. Thank you for making the point. Have a nice weekend.” – MGTOW

And there you have it.

•••••••

So taking her words “I don’t think I’m good enough for you” at face value and flipping it back on her – while agreeing with her – will reveal the beast within. Then he will find out personally that she’s not good enough for him…. instead of just reading about it here. When a woman says “I don’t think I’m good enough for you”. You can just stop right there. She wants some foolish white knight to say: “Oh I think you’re wonderful!”, But what idiot would(?) when she doesn’t believe it HERSELF.

In a recent survey – when asked – it was revealed that only 2% of women would describe themselves as “beautiful”.
But the % of women who want to be thought of as (and told they are) “beautiful” is MUCH higher than that.

That’s where these women come from.
They say: “I don’t think Im good enough for you”…… but they want to hear “Oh I think you’re wonderful”.

Better to just take her word for it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

SMAD wrote:

The best companions you can have are long term MALE friendships. Decent male friends are worth their weight in gold as they will keep you grounded and point out things you might be “love blind” to. A woman will often try to keep you away form your friends because they KNOW this.

^^^ This.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

It’s happened to all of us.

No response? She flakes? She’s not interested. Don’t text. Don’t call. Delete her number. Move on to the next one.

Their excuses are bulls~~~:

T~~~: My step father is in the hospital!
CAP: Where? What room? What’s wrong with him?
T~~~: Uhhhhhhh
CAP: F~~~ you forget the whole thing.
T~~~: WHAT?!

No response? She flakes? She’s not interested. Don’t text. Don’t call. Delete her number. Move on to the next one.

T~~~: (8PM in the dead of winter) My son is in the hospital! He ran into a picnic table at the bottom of a hill while sledding!
CAP: Who sends a 9 year old on a night sledding run without doing recon on the hill? Who sends a 9 year old on night sledding run period?
T~~~: He’s hurt!
CAP: Because of your dumb ass. F~~~ you forget the whole thing.

No response? She flakes? She’s not interested. Don’t text. Don’t call. Delete her number. Move on to the next one.

You should have zero tolerance for this s~~~. Zee-Row.

Fuck this planet.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Cap285 wrote:

No response? She flakes? She’s not interested. Don’t text. Don’t call. Delete her number. Move on to the next one.

CAP: F~~~ you forget the whole thing.

You should have zero tolerance for this s~~~. Zee-Row.

RUTHLESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

I f~~~ing love it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ManocalypseParticipant 321]

I once went out with someone who I met at an IT course. It went well enough but I left things as they were and didn’t chase. It was 14 months before I heard from her again. Out of nothing better to do, I went out with her again and we got on well enough and we agreed we should meet again sometime. Then she pulled out of a date for some reason and I decided not to chase. That was last October. She left messages and texts on my phone before her number mysteriously ended up on the screening list. Women are odd…

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

: “I thought you were too good for me and you wouldn’t be interested in me, so I didn’t respond.”
: “Do you really think so? You may be right. I probably am too good for you. Thanks for noticing. You may have just saved us both a lot of wasted time and effort.”
: “What? You arrogant bastard. How dare you blah blah blah.”
: “Well that answers that question. Now I KNOW I’m too good for you. Thanks for clearing that up.”

– and so on…

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