Silence is Golden

[RajParticipant 472]

Most of the older men I’ve met that I respect don’t speak much. The irony is that I often have the most respect for the men that speak least. Some men say so much, and what they speak or write is true. I often appreciate their knowledge and understanding of complex or hidden information. It is very rewarding to hear a very intelligent and experienced man explain something in both detail and simplicity.

However, I believe the power of silence is unbelievable. As I’m getting older I’m finding that my knowledge is increasing significantly, however, my ability to speak or articulate that information is diminishing. It’s gotten to the point where I just tell myself that the amount of information I have is so vast, and so pervasive that it cannot be effectively conveyed except by undergoing the experiences that I’ve been through over the course of a lifetime.

I possess so much more knowledge and understanding than I ever have before. Often when people engage me in conversation seldom does more than a nod or a “yeup,” get conveyed. It’s also gotten to the point where I can no longer argue with people. Immediately when I feel disagreement or difference of opinion in others I become silent and redirect the conversation to something trivial or completely inconsequential.

Is that something that is personal to me, or is that something that happens when you age? I don’t view it as a bad thing, but I feel like I’m losing my voice in a metaphorical sense. My concern is that this learned silence could be something negative, or is it just a part of being older and being able to accept the realities of life?

I was once a great king, I believe you were too. I hope you believe in me, I hope you believe in you.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

Still water runs deep.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

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[The Black ScorpionParticipant 2143]

Those who talk do not know,
Those who know do not talk.

-Taoist proverb

The greatest tragedy in life is to spend your whole life fishing only to discover that it was not fish you were after. - Henry David Thoreau

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

The most dangerous person in the room is the one who talks the least. Reason why? No one knows what’s on his mind or what he’s capable of doing. Anonymity is golden. In a world where everyone takes pics and post them on social media, the one who doesn’t is the odd ball. He or she is the one that peeks most people’s interest. Why? Simple. He’s mysterious. Be mysterious. Be aloof. Be a bit distant at times. Be different.

[Anonymous 38]

The Black Scorpion wrote:

Those who talk do not know,Those who know do not talk.
-Taoist proverb

Beat me to it.

No longer feeling like I need to explain or justify to people who cannot comprehend simple things, is a big part of my increasing silence. Not correcting people, not arguing. Silence is very powerful.

When you conserve your energy, your peace, wisdom etc, you’re naturally silent a lot of the time.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

I used to be more chatty and emphatic about having “dialogue”, but frankly I don’t want to waste my time debating with dumbasses I know cannot really grasp logic.

So, I nod, smile and walk away.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Women speak about 3 times as man words as men. Yet much of it is vapid waste. You would need a computer to translate it and dig out anything meaningful. A man – at least one true to his gender- speaks with his actions. Few words uttered.

[MonkParticipant 16977]

The Black Scorpion wrote:

Those who talk do not know, Those who know do not talk. Taoist proverb

Very true.

I met a man who had been a POW in Changi prison. He never spoke about it.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I agree in general and appreciate this thread. However, I believe there are exceptions…

Not every Chatty Cathy is a fool with nothing important to say.

And not every quiet person in the room is sage.

PERSONALITY dictates how social or chatty a person is… also situation has much to do with it. Don’t think for one minute that there’s some rule that talkative people are stupid. Maybe they are Self Confident and WISE, so much so that they can have open discourse and not feel shy. Salesmen are very talkative people because they learned to talk to strangers, but they didn’t start out that way.

And how many times have you struck up a conversation with someone who seemed quietly reserved and ‘wise’ yet soon found out they’re complete idiots?

How does the saying go, ‘better to be thought of as possibly foolish than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.’

I see this all the time. Quietly aloof people you see daily in such and such circumstance, passerby type acquaintances that you haven’t spoken to… and if you ever do talk to them, you find out right away, they were nothing like you thought.

I do this all the time with ALL women. She “seems” a certain way… but I know, that is a delusion, once I talk to her, I will find out she is an AIR HEAD GASH like all the rest…

[Anonymous 38]

Gravel Pit wrote:

PERSONALITY dictates how social or chatty a person is… also situation has much to do with it. Don’t think for one minute that there’s some rule that talkative people are stupid. Maybe they are Self Confident and WISE, so much so that they can have open discourse and not feel shy. Salesmen are very talkative people because they learned to talk to strangers, but they didn’t start out that way.

Also, and I do this, is people can pretend to be dumber than they are. Sometimes I chat absolute s~~~ so my intellect flies under the radar, arouses no suspicion. But I would say when you get to know someone you can generally tell what their normative state is.

[hdvrodParticipant 1109]

I gave up the need to educate or inform people of the fact that they don’t know what they’re talking about a long time ago. As you get older you learn to just mind your own business and avoid as much drama and stress in your life as possible.
Looks like you have entered that path in your life.

Anyway communication, real open communication, is not wanted or even required in a relationship. Women cannot handle fully open and honest communication, plus most perceive it as a weakness on the part of a man. All that is required is catering to her whims, and even then nothing is certain. There is no way to be sure of having a successful relationshit with a woman. MGTaoist

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Like Gravel pointed out and Taoist nailed it, there are these two kinds of people… Which given the moment, might reveal themselves pure geniuses or dumb as f~~~.

The first, will reveal themselves after they know you enough that you will hold a conversation, or a questioning (because you want to learn), instead of s~~~ talking and possibly end up doxxing them or even saying s~~~ about you at the internet, as this kind of move gets people fired or in jail, depending on what they said and where they said it.

Find out what someone likes, earn his trust, and they will spend hours talking to you.
Say things they deem stupid, and they will shut up at warp speed.

Try speaking about astrophysics with women… That shut them up quite fast, even when they know enough about it.
Speak about astrophysics with a man that likes astrophysics… And he will talk to you for WEEKS about it.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Just a ManParticipant 934]

I’m just exactly like that Raj. It’s like I’ve been waiting my whole life, and I’m just now realizing it, but with no idea what I’m waiting on/for. I have always been the “quiet type”. The problem is the talkers abuse the living s~~~ out of me, because of that. But SILENCE, when done properly, shuts up even the most mouthy of c~~~s. SILENCE is a very effective weapon and I use it with no regards to humanity.

In fact, f~~~ the human species. The sooner it is eradicated, the sooner something better can come along.

Whoops! Got off topic. I have a pet peeve against explaining myself, but I understand everything you said. I just want to be left the f~~~ alone, but can’t because it takes currency to live, now. Being a “recovering” nice guy, really doesn’t help, either.

I dream about seeing the beginning of the end of this species. As an evil, destructive parasite…it is time to go.

Philosophy, the female repellent

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Just a Man wrote:

I’m just exactly like that Raj. It’s like I’ve been waiting my whole life, and I’m just now realizing it, but with no idea what I’m waiting on/for. I have always been the “quiet type”. The problem is the talkers abuse the living s~~~ out of me, because of that. But SILENCE, when done properly, shuts up even the most mouthy of c~~~s. SILENCE is a very effective weapon and I use it with no regards to humanity.
In fact, f~~~ the human species. The sooner it is eradicated, the sooner something better can come along.
Whoops! Got off topic. I have a pet peeve against explaining myself, but I understand everything you said. I just want to be left the f~~~ alone, but can’t because it takes currency to live, now. Being a “recovering” nice guy, really doesn’t help, either.
I dream about seeing the beginning of the end of this species. As an evil, destructive parasite…it is time to go.

Nihilism is not good, mate. The first one to be destryed is yourself, by your own hands. Or mind, in this case.
The species is good, it is a few among us that f~~~ everything up.
See the forest for the trees, not the leaves.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Just a ManParticipant 934]

Not a nihilist and I do see the forest despite the trees. Question: if humanity is “good”, then why the infinite amount of controls placed on itself BY itself?

Philosophy, the female repellent

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Just a Man wrote:

Not a nihilist and I do see the forest despite the trees. Question: if humanity is “good”, then why the infinite amount of controls placed on itself BY itself?

Because people look at themselves and how wrong or how bad they are, and project that into the rest of the world, I guess.
Then, instead of working for the betterment of themselves, and therefore being an example, they fall to the easiest pitfall: Nihilism.

To be honest, mankind is great! It is just a few f~~~wits who make it bad for the rest of us.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Raj wrote:

Is that something that is personal to me, or is that something that happens when you age? I don’t view it as a bad thing, but I feel like I’m losing my voice in a metaphorical sense. My concern is that this learned silence could be something negative, or is it just a part of being older and being able to accept the realities of life?

I was a lot more talkative in my younger days.

Gradually, I took my mother’s advice that my mouth will get me into trouble. In later adulthood, “loose lips sink ships” became my credo, because anything you say could potentially be used by someone else to f~~~ you over.

In more recent days, I say very little because I have nothing to prove to anyone (possibly a product of getting older) and also because I simply don’t give a f~~~ about many things. I also have very little emotion left, and so I don’t have any emotion-driven reasons for talking.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Dark Kenshi wrote:

Just a Man wrote:

Not a nihilist and I do see the forest despite the trees. Question: if humanity is “good”, then why the infinite amount of controls placed on itself BY itself?

Because people look at themselves and how wrong or how bad they are, and project that into the rest of the world, I guess.Then, instead of working for the betterment of themselves, and therefore being an example, they fall to the easiest pitfall: Nihilism.
To be honest, mankind is great! It is just a few f~~~wits who make it bad for the rest of us.

I don’t look at how wrong I am or bad and project that onto the rest of the world. I tend to regard personal choice and giving people the freedom to make mistakes as preferable to what we have now. Also, nihilism and working for the betterment of one’s self are not mutually exclusive. I’m pretty much a nihilist, but I work towards the betterment of myself.

A FEW f~~~wits? Have you ever driven on I-95?

Lawyers are great, too… with fava beans and nice chianti.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Ranger One wrote:

Dark Kenshi wrote:

Just a Man wrote:

Not a nihilist and I do see the forest despite the trees. Question: if humanity is “good”, then why the infinite amount of controls placed on itself BY itself?

Because people look at themselves and how wrong or how bad they are, and project that into the rest of the world, I guess.Then, instead of working for the betterment of themselves, and therefore being an example, they fall to the easiest pitfall: Nihilism.To be honest, mankind is great! It is just a few f~~~wits who make it bad for the rest of us.

I don’t look at how wrong I am or bad and project that onto the rest of the world. I tend to regard personal choice and giving people the freedom to make mistakes as preferable to what we have now. Also, nihilism and working for the betterment of one’s self are not mutually exclusive. I’m pretty much a nihilist, but I work towards the betterment of myself.
A FEW f~~~wits? Have you ever driven on I-95?
Lawyers are great, too… with fava beans and nice chianti.

Okay… How many lawyers worldwide, compared to the entire population of the world? All 7.2 billions of us?
How many drives in that I-95, compared to the world population?

Nihilism = moral decay. Therefore nihilism =/= self-betterment.

It is that simple… Nietzsche said himself.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

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