Should Women Pay Half on Dates???

[Anonymous 6]

Thoughts??

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

As per Tom Leykis’ recommendation, men should pay $40 max, $0 is optimal.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Anonymous 7]

Depends…..
If one is a pussy beggar then yup.
If one is not a pussy beggar then it doesn’t matter. No dates and ZFG.

{Edit: If she goes out with a pussy beggar then no.
Otherwise it doesn’t matter b/c she won’t be out on a date.}

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Yeah they should.

Will they? That remains to be seen

It just seems to me that women pick and choose the most convenience parts of being a man.

When it comes to picking the tab or staying committed to plans I hear nothing but crickets…

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

1) she should pay all of it.
2) she should pay me to go out with her.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Whatever her part is. Separate bills.

Dinner whores should be avoided at all costs. They are showing 1% of how bad they become. If they do end up with one and you get stuck with the bill, well at least she’s gone. Bruised ego and few bucks is cheaper than life in hell.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 7]

I believe the idea of 50/50 came from women.

They need you to do 50% of their work.

How many times have you heard: “I work and have to come home and cook, clean, take care of the kids, etcetera. You need to start helping out.”?

It is a manipulation tactic that they never thought you would start to follow. They figured men have been so whipped as to care for all the woman’s needs we would not force them to follow.

Most men still follow the traditional ways, so women still get their cake and eat it too.

They try and make the case that they are equal to men. What is a better way to ilustrate this point – 50/50?

The key words in the OP post is “reluctantly”. They painted themselves into a corner.

I could be completely off, but my observations say otherwise.

Edit to add:
At this point and the way our society looks at the dynamic… damn straight we are going Dutch.

In the far future, if things were to become straightened out, I would pay for everything only if the woman upholds her womanly duties without question or apprehension.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Women paying for themselves is ONE of my pre-requisites.

Seems to be a good pre-requisite. I’m not broke from being with my current gf.

Back when I had 2 gf’s, it was a little annoying, because even paying half going on twice as many dates…

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

It’s not your obligation in life to subsidize cupcake. She needs to contribute more than just being a side arm companion.

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Yeah they should.

Will they? That remains to be seen

It just seems to me that women pick and choose the most convenience parts of being a man.

When it comes to picking the tab or staying committed to plans I hear nothing but crickets…

I always feel bad for people who wait on women. Because women are notoriously bad tippers. Rather than tip their server a few extra bucks for quality service, they’d rather be cheap so they can buy their gucci s~~~.

[The_Invisible_ManParticipant 105]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

It just seems to me that women pick and choose the most convenience parts of being a man.

Yep that’s what entitlement is. ZFG!

I may as well be invisible!

[narwhalParticipant]

It’s not something I really want to spend time worrying about. On a first date, I usually pay for dinner, because it’s not a big deal to me overall. If we go for drinks or something after, I find she usually isn’t interested in picking up the tab. Chances are that we never made it to drinks after if she wasn’t they type to do that anyway.

I get that I probably should be making more of a stand for equality or something, but I just don’t want to create that tension. And from her perspective, there are still a lot of guys that would be offended if she doesn’t let him pay.

Ok. Then do it.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

The_Invisible_Man wrote:

MGTOW Knight wrote:

It just seems to me that women pick and choose the most convenience parts of being a man.

Yep that’s what entitlement is. ZFG!

Yeah I’ve reached NFG as well.

I’ve finally reached solace from the Red Pill Rage, and I just accept it.

You simply can’t change biology.

My awakening merely changed my outlook on life, and now I live for me.

No more wasting my effort, money, or energy for anyone who disrespects me.

I’m not mad anymore, and now I just cut all the toxicity from my life.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Modern Day WarriorParticipant 499]

It’s just the double standard of clamoring for equality, but still wanting what they call “chivalry”. Chivalry implies that you’re a gentlemen, but it’s code for “buy me stuff”. They want equality in the job market, but not the dangerous or dirty jobs, just the easy ones. As for dates, if you pay you might get laid…totally up to her. If you don’t pay, probably not getting laid. That’s how prostitution works. Oops, I meant chivalry.

"One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact." - Neil Peart

[SMADParticipant 651]

Generally, their attitude on a date determines whether *I* want to see them again.

If they are c~~~s and go all princess / entitled : Game Over

If they are half decent and go half / match rounds of drinks: They have merely “stabilised” the see-saw.

Quite frankly, I am the prize and the women have to IMPRESS ME. Sex is easy and as I have gotten older, my “first strike” ratio has improved greatly. By first strike I mean first date sex. Mostly because of red pill knowledge, plus the fact I am older than when I first started the minefield that is “navigating women.”

The only real weapon women have is sex. I am no longer driven by sex because quite frankly, for years now a woman has never “finished me off” – it has been all my own work. Therefore, I will happily walk away if the deal is s~~~ / non beneficial to me.

If it costs me a few £££ for a first date and it doesn’t go anywhere, oh well never mind. Better to fail fast and cheap then get dragged along and rinsed of resources. Besides, there are LOTS of attractive women out there – quite abundant really. But such an awesome specimen of man such as myself is rarer and ZFG at the self arrogance and pomposity of that statement. I know my value.

In fact, my greatest “trick” is to project my awesomeness / independence / success / good genes and dangle it like a carrot on a stick to women. They might have me for a night, but they can’t keep me. A combination of a vasectomy + low / no sperm count due to injuries sustained when younger in military service = no babies for me.

Turn the dating game around to make it work for you gents. Did she “dump” you, or did she just give you an easy “out” and let you re-enter the massive ocean of c~~~ hungry women?

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[Anonymous 2]

The less I care about pussy the more they are going to have to earn my time. I’m not on a above no one but just because I ask you out doesn’t mean I’m going to pay you. If a female is pleasant, not rude to the wait staff and to me I might pay. I might not either to see her reaction. Just by stating this simple thing is to much headache to even go out. They want to be men without the work,rejection,and heartache. Their egos are to fragile to be told no! They will date five chumps just for the validation to one man that makes her pay for her s~~~. They can’t take it. I’ll eat alone or have fun out with my child. Their pussys can dry up for all I care anymore. Nice to look at but not to touch. Sometimes it’s f~~~ing hard to fight the temptation…so far so good! Thanks Gentlemen!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

Should Women Pay Half on Dates???

Not if she orders something cheap. It wouldn’t be fair for her to pay half when she’s having a salad and I’m having prime rib. She should only have to pay for what she eats.

[narwhalParticipant]

No matter whether you pay or go half, her reaction to the situation tells you a lot. On the last date I was on, which is probably 6 months or so ago now, I paid like I normally do. It wasn’t expensive, not a big deal. However, when the check came, she said nothing when I reached for it, and nothing after I paid. No thank you or anything.

There was no 2nd date.

Ok. Then do it.

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