Should Men Get a "Yes" Text Before Sex?

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Should men get a “yes” text before sex?

Could I get your opinion on this one? One of the nastier ways women abuse men is to claim rape when mutually agreed upon and consensual sex occurs.

I was thinking about ways of documenting consent. I came upon an article written by R. Jones on November 26, 2013 for CNN entitled “Young men, get a ‘yes’ text before sex”.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/26/opinion/jones-sex-consent-texting/

I generally ignore women. But I do have friends who haven’t yet converted to mgtow. For men who are active sexually, it seems like some way of documenting consent might save some of the guys from false rape charges. What do you think of this way of documenting consent? (I have no idea if this would work) Thanks gentlemen.

[The Long WalkParticipant 1282]

Women only need to claim they were drunk or drugged at the time, therefore losing agency in the eyes of the law, making them unable to consent. Ofc this same caveat isn’t applicable when a guy gets drunk.

Safest thing for a man to do in this modern, feminist culture, is abstain altogether.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Thanks RedPilgrim. Excellent point. And you are right. The safest thing for a man to do to in this modern, feminist culture is to
abstain altogether. I do feel sorry for the non-mgtow guys who have consensual sex and then get accused of rape.
What do you think about a text which said, “Yes. Consent given without influence of drugs/alcohol and without duress”
Nothing worse than a vindictive lady who wants your hide because you didn’t do — for her. (Bitches be crazy). Thanks.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Don’t bother getting it AT ALL. Women who want to f~~~ you don’t need to be asked for their bulls~~~ “consent” by a text message. That’s for pathetic loser women who don’t know how to f~~~, and are complete s~~~ in the sack. They don’t even WANT to have sex. Getting a “yes” implies women are in a position to give consent in the first place. But ARE they?

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Get the text AFTER. Not before. The following morning.

“Did you have a nice time last night babe?”

“OMG yeah it was so f~~~ing hott.”

Done.

Don’t EVER f~~~ a woman expects you to get her “permission” first. She can stay home and play with her goddam barbie dolls. Woman who WANT sex don’t want to be “asked”. They want to be TAKEN. Every other woman should be ignored. Don’t even speak to her. She’s not worth and she sucks in bed. She can go f~~~ herself.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 12]

You could get them to sign a contract before or after having an alcohol and drug test as well as film it all and if she still decided later that she doesn’t like you then she will accuse you of rape.

Best to just not play at all.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Casting a vote (filling out a ballot) is basically giving consent to be governed.
Asking for a “yes” or getting a woman’s permission implies you needed it in the first place.

No man worth anything waits for, looks for, seeks, needs or wants female approval for anything.
Female approval is as worthless as her disapproval.

Believe it, and your entire universe will change.
Even panties will appear to magically fall off on their own.

Since there is a s greater benefit in NOT f~~~ing her… who gives a s~~~ if she gives permission TO f~~~ her. In the current social climate it’s like playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded cylinder. And the cylinder can “change it’s mind” whenever it wants? The modern female has priced herself into the gutter.

It’s like marriage.. You gain more if you DON’T do it. So a permission slip from a female is like toilet paper. Wipe your ass with it. Right in front of her. Then press it into the palm of her hand and call it a tip. Then go have sex with a female who actually WANTS to f~~~ you. She is not waiting for you to ask. She will throw her vagina at you. I couldn’t be more sincere about this. ‘

Never in my life was I ever required to say “”is it OK if I kiss you??”… is it OK if I insert my penis into your vagina?? Can you please text me in the affirmative, before I touch you – you totally insane freak?”. But I have pushed women off me before. Vigorously. They didn’t text me for MY consent. They didn’t even ASK.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[UmbreonParticipant 152]

Seconding the idea of a confirmation “after” text either in addition to or instead of a pre-sex “yes” text (provided you’re foolish enough to still go after women).

The reason the pre-sex text isn’t enough is because they can claim that they decided at some point during sex that they wanted to stop but you kept going so it was rape. Some feminists preach that regretting it the next day or a couple days later (often with coaxing from gal friends) means she was raped. A resounding “I had fun” posted the morning after is the closest thing to defence you can get and, even then, she can always say she felt “pressured” to say she had fun and “lied” because she was scared of the big scary rapist.

The best defence is to invest in a silicone pocket pussy and some good porn. Women aren’t worth the many, many risks involved.

Beauty fades, dumb is forever.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Usually I avoid speaking “personally” unless I am sharing a personal experience.. but I’ll make an exception,

All legalities, dangers, risks and propriety aside….

The whole idea of getting a “yes” from a woman is repugnant – and I was plenty clear that it’s not because i get off on unwilling sex.

*Personally*, I have ZERO interest in being “the kind of man she wants”.
I am only interested in being the kind of man I always wanted to BE..
And asking for a woman’s permission for anything is not that man.
I would spit at my own reflection in the mirror…….. before I text a woman for a “yes”,

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Keymaster wrote:

*Personally*, I have ZERO interest in being “the kind of man she wants”.
I am only interested in being the kind of man I always wanted to BE..

Mind if I adopt that as my new M.O?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Speaking to the men here who are 30+ years old – Is it just me or doesnt this entire “dilemma” strike you as only affecting the 20 something crowds who are in college? I am not discrediting the concern, even though I didnt realise until recently s~~~ had gotten THIS bad i.e. mattress girl. But being in my mid thirties I have never really had much of a concern of this fear.

I think this a newer phenomenon which is the result of the liberal, PC feminest agenda and all of this sensitivity s~~~.

I think the problem vastly disproportionately effects:

– people in their 20s
AND
– in college

Not only are these “girls” taught and encouraged all of this touchy/feely emotional PC bull s~~~, but it is much easier for them to cry rape on a college campus than it is to call law enforcement and have a REAL investigation done. If I was the dean at the university where mattress girl made the claim I would have said – “call the police. Why are you telling me thats well beyond my scope of authority”.

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Oh and the idea of a “yes text”: nothing in the world would make a pussy dry up and clam up faster. First off, the concept of having a woman be forced to logically evaluate her intentions and what SHE “wants” is the antithesis of how women operate with sex or romance in the first place. They want it to be something that “just happened”. A girls fantasy of meeting Mr. Right is NEVER some planned out event. It “just happened” because it was MEANT to be: all of the stars in the heavens were aligne JUST right!

Secondly, getting her to vocalize an approval isnt in her nature. Shell vocalize negatives ad infinitum. If we were talking about getting her to say slutty nasty s~~~ in the heat of the moment “you want that thick c~~~ massaging the insides of your pretty pink pussy and throbbing inside you, dont you?” as she has it in her hand, that would be a different story.

Resident cynic.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Oh and the idea of a “yes text”: nothing in the world would make a pussy dry up and clam up faster. First off, the concept of having a woman be forced to logically evaluate her intentions and what SHE “wants” is the antithesis of how women operate with sex or romance in the first place. They want it to be something that “just happened”. A girls fantasy of meeting Mr. Right is NEVER some planned out event. It “just happened” because it was MEANT to be: all of the stars in the heavens were aligne JUST right!

Secondly, getting her to vocalize an approval isnt in her nature. Shell vocalize negatives ad infinitum. If we were talking about getting her to say slutty nasty s~~~ in the heat of the moment “you want that thick c~~~ massaging the insides of your pretty pink pussy and throbbing inside you, dont you?” as she has it in her hand, that would be a different story.

^^^ That.

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I think the problem vastly disproportionately effects:

– people in their 20s
AND
– in college

Yes on this topic I have noticed some videos on the topic (like JTO) tending to speak like “yes means yes” is everywhere and some kind of federal law. It should be remembered that it applied to colleges and specific states only – for now.

Keymaster wrote:

*Personally*, I have ZERO interest in being “the kind of man she wants”.
I am only interested in being the kind of man I always wanted to BE..

Mind if I adopt that as my new M.O?

Feel free, Mike! If every man did, his world would be right side up again.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

I prefer a phone conversation and her on my voice mail trying to seduce me with why I should even think she is wanting some kind of sexual sexcapade with me.
Texting is so sterile and such a turn off for this subject to me, that I don’t even entertain it as them even trying to seduce me or make me want to desire them like that.
Really. It turns me off, I don’t care how good she looks.

Keymaster wrote:

Get the text AFTER. Not before. The following morning.

“Did you have a nice time last night babe?”

“OMG yeah it was so f~~~ing hott.”

But for after, if a voice mail from her stating this doesn’t happen, then a text msg after works.
If I am not worth a voice mail from her after, I sure wont bang her again, if she wont even afford me a verbalized satisfaction for the night together.

edit: They say they want foreplay in bed…well, honey, work it is my take. Make me feel that then.

[UntamedParticipant]

KeyMaster: No man worth anything waits for, looks for, seeks, or needs or wants female approval for anything.
Female approval is as worthless as her disapproval

Ain’t that the truth.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

The very fact that this “yes means yes” campaign/movement/ “discussion”<—- I HATE it when people say that…is taking place just reveals how low we have plummetteted as a a society.

“Yes means yes” no s~~~. 1=1 is this news worthy? Its mind boggling. Im afraid the movie Idiocracy was prophetic.

Resident cynic.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

The very fact that this “yes means yes” campaign/movement/ “discussion” I HATE it when people say that…is taking place just reveals how low we have plummetteted as a a society.

I have to lol!!!

“Hey did you know that yes means yes?”

“No kidding., Where did you learn that? You must be really smart! Did you know that water is wet?”

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MyselfParticipant 353]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I think the problem vastly disproportionately effects:
– people in their 20s
AND
– in college

I have this thought that these kinds of laws are a clumsy attempt at replacing some of what religion and female modesty once accomplished.

Having laws in place where the man is constantly seeking female consent changes the dynamics of sex. As @ancientwisdom points out “good sex” does not happen when the man is always pandering for a yes every step along the way.

That kind of pandering does not happen during casual encounters. So my thought is that it is precisely this kind of promiscuity that these laws are trying to curtail. They are basically threatening guys who do not first invest into a relationship with “rape”. It used to be that threats of damnation worked.

It’s kind of a conspiracy theory, but I wonder if there is a kernel of truth to it.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Men are going to lose. No matter which way we cut the cake, we are going to lose. Abstinence still works. It is only a matter of time before the feminazis discover this fact and make it illegal too.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

RoyDal wrote:

Men are going to lose. No matter which way we cut the cake, we are going to lose. Abstinence still works. It is only a matter of time before the feminazis discover this fact and make it illegal too.

Take that back immediately. Women are MUCH too horny to be OK with abstinence.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093011/Women-far-promiscuous-men-says-shock-new-study.html

So what idiot would care what kind of “consent” is OK with a feminist? Nobody is f~~~ing her anyway! She selected herself for extinction!! If dead feminist Andrea Dworkin were alive and were preaching “yes means yes” today who gives a s~~~? She was the ugliest bitch on Earth.

Refuse to interact with (or speak to) women like this “yes means yes” insane crowd and you cannot lose. Texting a broad for permission to screw her is a loser move in itself. The men who will “lose” are the ones who do whatever women want them to do. They are doomed.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

I have this thought that these kinds of laws are a clumsy attempt at replacing some of what religion and female modesty once accomplished.

That would make sense, but your thinking like a man: logically. I definetely dont beleive that all of this was planned out, or even considered, circa first wave feminism.

The problem per say is non- existent: there is no “rape-culture”. Men are not raping women at some alarming rate. The real problem is females being so supplicated to by society AND their “sexual revolution” (dressing like skanks and being c~~~ whores) that they either:

1. Instinctively feel ashamed by their sluttery and rather than have their “image” tainted, they blame men of violating their autonomy

OR

2. They didnt get what they wanted from the guy they slept with (like mattress girl) and accuse rape as means of revenge while playing the victim card and getting attention.

This is just another consequemce of feminism and liberal s~~~ raising its ugly head again. These “discussions” are nothing more than a filthy slut sweeping a used condom, she VOLUNTARILY used, under the rug. The rest of it is smoke filled coffee house crap. Navel gazing at its finest.

Resident cynic.

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