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Guys the wife will never change! She got back from a trip. I have been cool and kept my distant. Now that she is back I try to show just a little affection. While she might be 5% better with little hugs she still is 95% the same with her coldness and disdain! SHE WILL NEVER CHANGE! WHY THE F~~~ DO I EXPECT HER TO? SHE WON’T! AM I THAT MUCH OF A DUMBASS??? Yet, I don’t want a divorce. But I can’t go on like this! I F~~~ING CAN’T! I know she will win! She will find a new man and I will be alone! I CAN’T GET A JOB EITHER! I AM F~~~ING SCREWED! WHAT THE HELL DO I DO?????? What do I do with my feelings? What do I do with my desires? How the hell do I get out of this???!!! This is not a troll post! It’s my serious need for help!!
<div id=”link64_adl_tabid” style=”display: none;” data-url=”/forums/forum/mgtow/”>348</div>IMO you have to deal with the fact that you are financial dependent on someone else and that gives them power over you. I suppose the most important thing is to get a job. Even if that means traveling, you plan to get divorced anyway.
If you were really smart and got some breaks you would divorce her now. She won’t get alimony, while highly unlikely, you might get alimony from her. Who ever strikes first wins in divorce.
Did it ever occur to you that she is being so cold because she wants you out and really doesn’t give a s~~~ what you want? If that’s the case, again, you need a job.
You know how we all say that women don’t really love men, just what they do for them. What do you do that she can’t do without? If it’s not much then why would she keep you around? This is how they think. All of them, even your special snowflake. She could dump you tomorrow for all you know.
If your disabled go on SS disability.
Realize happiness comes from inside you. She does not make you happy. She is simple her. There are many her’s out there and btw it’s not a competition who get’s remarried first when you divorce. It’s how much skin the guy still has on his back once she’s done with him in court.
In a way you are making your own bed. Change, go your own way, don’t let the door hit you on the ass. That means emotionally separating yourself from her, now.
Get a job, be happy because happiness is the best revenge.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Yet, I don’t want a divorce. But I can’t go on like this! I F~~~ING CAN’T! I know she will win!This is not a troll post! It’s my serious need for help!!
Ignoring all of this neediness, let’s get to the meat of the issue.
I CAN’T GET A JOB EITHER!
You are a man without options. That’s a s~~~ty place to be in. Ignore everything else, why can’t you get a job?
Before you listen to me (or anyone else ) it is my duty to inform you that any advice you receive online will yield long-term negative outcomes. I am required to say that first… to insist you listen to your gut FIRST – and nobody else’s. Including mine.
Having said that……
When she got back… you shouldn’t even have been home waiting for her.
Getting a job or being able to support yourself is NUMBER ONE. I don’t give a s~~~ what you have to do, pump coffee or sweep streets, start by being able to stand on your own two feet. NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PUTTING YOURSELF IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN WALK ANYTIME.
Don’t even f~~~ing THINK about a blowjob until you are in that position.
DON’T EVEN THINK IT.
Starting now, your wife does not exist. You will read papers, go on craigslist, open a business, go ANYWHERE but the vicinity of your wife and don’t even think about her until you are employed in some capacity. When you have your first check, you will deposit 10% into an account that you will not look at for the next 10 years. You will do this with every check you get, and even when you really really need it… you will not touch that money under any circumstances. You will suck dicks for cash before you touch that account.
When you have your first $5000 you will leave your wife. You will just f~~~ing vanish from the face of the Earth. Stick a post it on the fridge or whatever and tell her you will not be seeing her EVER again. EVER. Get an apartment. And when you have put your first and last months rent down, you can have your first celebratory beer, because you are FINALLY FREE of that c~~~.
Report back when you are at this point.
Again. Please don’t listen to me. It’s only what I would do if I were you.
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If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I told you before, brother, that getting a job IS your job now. 8am to 10pm every day, six days a week… the only thing aside from eating, sleeping and s~~~ting that should be on your mind is getting a job. Work the fry-o-lator at McDonalds if you have to, scrub dumpsters at a liposuction clinic if you have to, literally shovel s~~~ from pile A to pile B if you have to… (there are plenty of openings in garbage collection, I hear). It doesn’t matter how cheap or demeaning the job is… once you get any kind of job you can start to work your way up the ladder to a better one.
And no fair “working from home” either. Get up at 7am, take a shower, brush your teeth and comb your hair, put on your best suit, pack a briefcase and go out and look for work until sundown… then come home and get online and look for work until bedtime. THAT IS YOUR JOB.
Now if you’re physically incapable of working (you’re a quadriplegic, for example) then that’s different. You’re damn well f~~~ed in that case. But if you can walk and speak English, you can find work… and the English part is optional.
Nothing else you think, say or do will mean s~~~ until you are employed at miminum wage or better.
tl:dnr forgot about “SHE needs to change”… the only person in your life who needs to (and can) change is YOU!
One of my supervisors was quadriplegic (he still is, I got promoted to another department). That’s a free ride to a government paycheck brother. Just gotta apply. No Federal, State, or Local HR department will turn you away. S~~~, they’ll be p~~~ing their pants and hoping they didn’t blink at you the wrong way.
HR departments will do anything they can to avoid a lawsuit and accommodate the ADA.
Aside from the obvious advantage of earning money, a job will get you
A) out of the house – You are going to go bat s~~~ stir crazy sitting inside the same four walls all day every day. Your brain isn’t wired for that.
B) Busy hands – this is exactly what your brain is wired for. It doesn’t matter as much what you are doing as long as you are doing something. This is what the male brain is wired for. I know at least a dozen millionaires who won’t retire/quit their jobs. The two reasons they give are boredom and an absolute need to get out of the house (and away from the wife). You’d be better off volunteering as an unpaid intern somewhere, or as an unpaid apprentice learning a trade, than you are sitting at home.
C) A paycheck – which you need wether you are married or not.
Re-read Fenderson’s post above and get the hell out of the house.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Guys the wife will never change!
Uh, no… so don’t worry about it
She got back from a trip. I have been cool and kept my distant. Now that she is back I try to show just a little affection.
HUGE f~~~ing mistake, I can’t even begin to tell you how huge and degrading. ANY and ALL attempts at intimacy in your current position will be viewed as pathetic, just accept it now.
While she might be 5% better with little hugs she still is 95% the same with her coldness and disdain!
Here’s a free clue, because you serve no purpose to her utility-wise or emotionally, she has no use for you. In other words you are now in the same class as every guy she treated as beneath her.
SHE WILL NEVER CHANGE! WHY THE F~~~ DO I EXPECT HER TO? SHE WON’T! AM I THAT MUCH OF A DUMBASS???
No man, she’s not going to change, she is most likely already f~~~ing someone else. And yes you are that much of a dumbass.
Yet, I don’t want a divorce. But I can’t go on like this! I F~~~ING CAN’T!
and only YOU can do anything about it…..
I know she will win! She will find a new man and I will be alone!
She already won, she already has a new man if she didn’t she wouldn’t treat you this way.
I CAN’T GET A JOB EITHER! I AM F~~~ING SCREWED! WHAT THE HELL DO I DO??????
Start by ending the pity party. Your problem isn’t your problem, your attitude about the problem is the problem. Yes, you are very severely f~~~ed, but things won’t always be this way. It’s been said that a man’s attitude is reflected in his future. That being the case your attitude is what got you here, fix it.
What do I do with my feelings? What do I do with my desires? How the hell do I get out of this???!!!
You start by getting back into the logical side of your mind. You find a job, any f~~~ing job and you stay gone as much as possible until you get the money to break bad. Then you get the f~~~ out.
((DROPS MIC and walks off stage))
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
KeyMaster please don’t use that word when referring to my w.
Thank you.
I will reply soon to all of you. Thanks for the info.
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Anonymous14KeyMaster please don’t use that word when referring to my w. Thank you. I will reply soon to all of you. Thanks for the info. <div id=”link64_adl_tabid” style=”display: none;” data-url=”/forums/topic/she-will-never-change-help/#post-23834″>50</div>
I do apologise on behalf of KeyMaster
So what would you suggest we refer to your wife as? Her Highness or Her Majesty? Do tell.
LOL. Yeah, that’s pathetic. He begs for help about his crappy life and stone-faced, loveless wife, and then he goes all white knight/mangina on Keymaster because he referred to her as a c~~~, which is actually TOO NICE of an opinion of her.
Yes, we should refer to her as his “pretty, wonderful heavenly angel” because that’s the way he f~~~ing prefers it. He just got the best goddamned advice possible on leaving that heartless bitch, but the moment I read his mangina reply, I know that he never will leave her. He’ll vent about his wife as much as he wants, but if any of us throws our 2 cents in for support, he’ll erupt like a volcano and chide us for “insulting my lovely wife.”
This is why I don’t want married men in MGTOW places. If they’re not considering dumping their current wife/c~~~ and bettering themselves, they are NOT going their own way, they are NOT looking to improve themselves, they are just going the way of what their wife wants, and they do it with a smile on their faces. If you’re not going to dump that bitch, you are not MGTOW, and you are better off in the feminist-controlled “A Voice For Men” website forums, where the women there outnumber the men 3 to 1.
pZ1$, be a hero and dump the ZERO.
Get a life and throw away the bitch of a wife.
If you can’t do that advice, then you have no f~~~ing reason to even be a member in this forum. You would have had your ass thrown out of most MGTOW groups on Facebook by now. They don’t allow married men to join.
Perhaps Her Majesty has gotten hold of your computer and is monitoring your activity and is posting on this site pretending to be you? That is a no-no.
We can’t help you unless you help yourself and grow some nuts. We won’t help her, so she should get the f~~~ out of here.
BVC
—–> PS Keymaster: Sounds like a completely different person…too many abbreviations like “w” and “info”…not enough !!!!!! and ??????? and CAPS! We have a spy here, or maybe two, or a split personality operative lol. I owe you a cold beer if I am wrong. BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
Anonymous23pZ1$ just did the classic woman thing by the way everybody. Disguising a plea for pity and attention behind a request for advice.
None of us are here to give you pity, man. Stop hiding up your own ass, and sort your life out. Jesus..
@pz1$
Man I buffered my post taking empathy and care for my fellow man in account… I even covered it in peanut butter….. and dipped in sugar for you so the red pill wouldn’t taste that bad. I crushed that pill and dipped it in honey which is something my Mommy did when I was 4.
But if you are going to BEG FOR “HELP” in an all-male forum about what to do – to men would would rather slowly lay down on a sharp object before finding themselves in your position…. you may want to begin raising your threshold of pain for the “torture” a typed word can cause you.
Any other time you will get my empathy. But that’s not what you needed, wanted, or asked for.
Everyone else.. Double your tough love until he gets it.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11@BVC: We could also have a mangina who’s wife is standing over his shoulder forcing him to obey her every command after she caught him. That second post really reeks of a c~~~ in the loop somewhere.
C~~~ or mangina makes no difference to me. If you really are a man, then you need to take control of your life which is why your life is falling down around you. I know it’s harsh and not easily done, but that’s what it takes.
@keymaster: Is there any way to tell your spell checker that mangina is a now real word?
Anonymous23Standby for release of truth bombs,… in three… two… one…
pZ1, first, your wife is never going to change. And yes, you are a DUMBASS (your word) if you believe that she will, or even that she should. Your wife is exactly the same woman as the woman you married. It is you who has changed the equation by becoming unemployed. Regardless of wether you refer to her as a c–t or a queen, she is what all wives have always been, and are always going to be. No one (except maybe you) expects her to change. She does not see a reason to change. We do not see a reason why she should change. Her friends and family do not see a reason why she should change. No one is suggesting that she change. Stop playing that dream in your head.
There are fairy tale stories about magic and dragons and flying monkeys and talking mermaids… but there isn’t even a Walt Disney story about a woman who continues to stay in a marriage and support an unmotivated, unemployed man. That’s how unrealistic your dream of changing her actually is. Walt Disney can’t even sell that dream. You savvy?
You have changed from the employed person you were, to the unemployed person that you are. That is the change that created your problems with your queen. Everyone, including your wife-queen, expects you to change back to the employed person that you were when she married you. Everyone expects this. Everyone in the world, male or female, will tell you this same truth. You are going to change, because if you don’t, you are eventually going to starve (alone). And your wife-queen is going to be OK with that outcome.
Despite what you might have believed, your wife-queen did not marry you for your wit, charm and personality…though you may well have an abundance of all of these. She did not marry you for your affection, although you may be very generous with it. She did not marry you for your company… or your brains… or your personality, or for love. Women may go out on dates for these things, but when they get married, they have a different list of expectations.
At the very top of that list, in every country all over the world, throughout all history, and applying to women, of all ages, backgrounds, religions and education levels… is a JOB. There may be other things on that list, and those things can vary from woman to woman. But the one constant is a job. Every single time.
When married women sit in office break rooms and hair salons and pta meetings and yoga classes together where they gossip about the men they’ve married, they don’t compare the amount of wit, charm and personality they received in exchange for getting married. They compare the size of their wedding rings, the cars they drive and the houses they live in. All of these things are the result of the job their husbands are doing. Even if they are divorced, these things result from the settlement and the child support and therefore are STILL a result of the job their ex husbands are doing.
By being unemployed, you have sent your wife-queen into that merciless, bitchy, piranha tank of female environment with absolutely zero to show for any of the effort she made to get married. By being unemployed, you are humiliating her wether you want to or not. Though she probably hasn’t said it to you yet, it is enormously embarrassing to her to have to sit in those conversations with an unemployed husband. Women in those female only environments have varying degrees of return on their marriage efforts from the men they married because not all men make the same incomes. But women in those environments can be forgiving of a woman married to a man who doesn’t make a ton of money, but is at least trying. While almost all women will trade up to a man with a better income if given the risk free chance, risk free chances are rare. Fortunately, the willingness of men with high incomes to agree to be the up-trade for married women is not in great supply, or it would happen more than it already does.
We expect women to do this. We expect women to do this the same way we expect men to trade their jobs at one company for a job at another company with better pay for the same work. Wether you like or agree with this part of women’s behavior is irrelevant to the frequency at which that behavior is going to occur. Accept that. Don’t like it, but accept it and act accordingly.
Your wife-queen is no more or less motivated to trade you in on a better offer than any other woman out there. But by being unemployed, you have lowered the bar on how high an offer would have to be in order to improve on what you are offering her now. Specifically, the guy who mows lawns in your neighborhood, the teenager who throws newspapers from a bicycle and the college stoner on the lifeguard stand at the local pool can ALL make your wife-queen a better offer than you. They all have jobs. You don’t. That means there is zero risk to her to replace you. Worst case for her, she ends up with another unemployed guy. ANYTHING ELSE is an improvement.
What no one here has said directly is that, by continuing to be married to you and continuing to support you for the time that she has, your wife-queen has actually been far more generous than most of the women out there. She’s not affectionate? She’s not interested in sex with you? So what! You are living rent free in a house that she alone is paying the expenses for. Be grateful. She does not owe you that.
I’m 48 years old. I’ve had a job and paid takes for every year of the last 33. I’m a witty, charming, smiling, funny, affectionate entertaining Mofo with lots of education and a monster c~~~ and a great personality and… and…. and… … and NO woman has ever done for me what your wife is currently doing for you. Not for a single damn day.
You’re in a room full of men who’ve done for ungrateful women what your wife is currently doing for you. We abandoned women for being as ungrateful for that as they are. But speaking of being ungrateful, have you said ‘thank you’ to your wife even one time for doing this for you?
If you lived near me, I promise I would pay you to mow the lawn, shovel the snow, wash the truck, trim the trees, clean the pool and do all kinds of other things I currently pay someone else to do… just so you would have some job until you found something better. You would almost certainly find something better soon. But until you did, your wife-queen would at least be able to see that you were making an effort. That would likely go a long way in your relationship, despite modest financial results. But unless you do live close by, there isn’t much I can do to help you. However, wherever you do live, there are guys washing cars, mowing lawns, shoveling snow and trimming trees in order not to be in the position you are in now.
Find those guys and follow their example or very soon, one of them is going to find your wife-queen… and everyone here knows how that story is going to end… not because he’s an ass and wants to make you unhappy, and not because she is a queen, or a c–t, but because she is a woman and that’s what women do. If you didn’t already know that, you know it now.
Now, what are YOU going to do?
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
I am not married, obviously.
However I have observed how my father almost divorced my mother after 20 years of marriage. Why? Because of the same thing: “she never changed.” 20+ years. And I am talking about my mother, who I love dearly because she is my mother.
My parents are one of 4-5 couples I know who are still married. 4-5 couples out of dozens maybe a hundred or two.
Women do not change. This is a universal concept. I knew this at 21. I am 25, I should not be telling you this. You should be telling me this.
In regards to being alone: You are alone right now whether you like it or not. You claim you don’t want to be alone, yet you are already there. You will make it regardless how the marriage turns out. I think most people who get married do it so they won’t be alone, however they eventually find out they were alone the entire time.
@Ynys: LOL that f~~~ing video was an hour long. That’s brilliant! I hope PZ gets the point.
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
Pz1$ – Sometimes women are to men what whiskey or heroin are to an alcoholic/addict; at least that is the case with me. I LOVED those holes, and would at one time sell my child and my own soul to maintain access to those holes. Almost four years ago now, I finally hit rock bottom and put my proverbial bottles and needles down and sobered up. I have been more happy and successful since then than I’ve ever been. Sure, sometimes (okay, often times) I see something that makes me crave a good ol’ sticking it in those holes… then I remember how much it costs, and how I almost died. Save your own life, man. Get to work, and get to living. Ditch the witch, and love yourself. It’s better to regret something you have done than to regret something you haven’t done. Well, you’ve already been married (from the sounds of it, regrettably); seems like it’s high time you tried another new thing, and get a divorce before you burn out completely. Good luck, man.
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